Immigrants & K-12 Debate - Henderson, TX

[American]

wasting money on those who don't belong

[baahahahahaha]

they are illegal immigrants... no other argument needed!!!

[Vote for Pedro]

Why not homes?

[SumChic]

NO WAY!! We have to pay enough on their free medical and welfare. Here's an idea.....become a citizen, get a job and take care of your own bills and leave my tax dollars alone. We pay enough to foreigners when we should be taking care of our own here in the USA....NOT OTHERS!!

[SumChic]

Why should we continue to pay for those that don't belong here?? I'm sick and tired of my tax dollars being used to support illegals. We have our own CITIZENS here that need taking care of. Here's an idea..... become a citizen, get a legal job, and take care of your own responsibilities and stop acting like the US owes you something. WE DON'T!

[thinkin]

By the time they are here for that many years, they will be effectively naturalized U.S. Citizens. If they are going to be productive in the community, then they will need an education. Free lunches? No. They should pay for anything not associated with learning.

[thinkin]

SumChic wrote:

Why should we continue to pay for those that don't belong here?? I'm sick and tired of my tax dollars being used to support illegals. We have our own CITIZENS here that need taking care of. Here's an idea..... become a citizen, get a legal job, and take care of your own responsibilities and stop acting like the US owes you something. WE DON'T!

You have little grasp of the economics of the world we live in. Illegal immigrants COME here because there are many jobs that CITIZENS are unwilling to work. Who builds YOUR highways? Who washes YOUR dishes in the restaurants? Who cleans YOUR bathrooms? Many CITIZENS would rather be on unemployment than work those jobs; yet, many illegals are willing to work greater than 40 hours... 60 hours... a week. That helps our economy much more than your TAX DOLLARS do. If employment could not be gotten at such a cheap rate, then the roads would never be fixed... the toilets would never be cleaned... and your dishes would always be dirty at the restaurant. Of course, if you wanted those things to get done, then you would have to pay CITIZENS MORE MONEY to do them, which would make the price of your road (and thus your taxes) GO UP... the price of your chicken fried steak... GO UP. the amount of money YOU MAKE AT WORK GO DOWN... because they're paying someone more to clean the toilets and wipe down the windows. So you can ignorantly gripe about your taxes... ME ME ME ME ME ME WHAT ABOUT ME... when your lack of understanding of fundamental principles of economics leaves you looking... quite... you fill in the rest.

[Mr_Bling]

Thinkin has got it right...

[Blessed]

They are draining our education system. Too much money is spent on teaching them english and they have become huge discipline problems for our schools. Take care of our own first.

[Saph]

Yeah, why don't you go do a job that you claim they're "taking." I highly doubt you want to be a garbageman or a construction worker.

[Lmao]

I ALWAYS see "illegals" doing construction work...

[TeaRex]

"Thinking" is a liberal commie!

Just because you are here a long time DOES NOT MAKE YOU LEGAL.

[thinkin]

TeaRex wrote:

"Thinking" is a liberal commie!
Just because you are here a long time DOES NOT MAKE YOU LEGAL.

no, it does make you legal. it also does make you on the boat back to where you came from. i'd rather see them be useful to society and NOT legal than be a detriment.

crap. like i said, many people who have the opportunities, as citizens, do jack crap with that education provided to them. no matter where you live.. a child should have a right to an education.

what are you going to say? if you parents move here illegally, then you are not entitled to what others have?

JESUS. you should be able to get any education no matter who you are. grow up. crap, you have the heart of a brick wall that crumbled a bit last year.

[TeaRex]

thinkin wrote:

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no, it does make you legal. it also does make you on the boat back to where you came from. i'd rather see them be useful to society and NOT legal than be a detriment.
crap. like i said, many people who have the opportunities, as citizens, do jack crap with that education provided to them. no matter where you live.. a child should have a right to an education.
what are you going to say? if you parents move here illegally, then you are not entitled to what others have?
JESUS. you should be able to get any education no matter who you are. grow up. crap, you have the heart of a brick wall that crumbled a bit last year.

e carnage wrought by illegal alien murderers represents only a fraction of the pool of blood spilled by American citizens as a result of an open border and un-enforced immigration laws.

While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That's 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001.

While no one – in or out of government – tracks all U.S. accidents caused by illegal aliens, the statistical and anecdotal evidence suggests many of last year's 42,636 road deaths involved illegal aliens.

A report by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Study found 20 percent of fatal accidents involve at least one driver who lacks a valid license. In California, another study showed that those who have never held a valid license are about five times more likely to be involved in a fatal road accident than licensed drivers.

Statistically, that makes them an even greater danger on the road than drivers whose licenses have been suspended or revoked – and nearly as dangerous as drunk drivers.

King also reports eight American children are victims of sexual abuse by illegal aliens every day – a total of 2,920 annually.

Based on a one-year in-depth study, Deborah Schurman-Kauflin of the Violent Crimes Institute of Atlanta estimates there are about 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in the United States who have had an average of four victims each. She analyzed 1,500 cases from January 1999 through April 2006 that included serial rapes, serial murders, sexual homicides and child molestation committed by illegal immigrants.

As the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. increases, so does the number of American victims.

According to Edwin Rubenstien, president of ESR Research Economic Consultants, in Indianapolis in 1980, federal and state correctional facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens. But at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in all U.S. jails and prisons.

While the federal government doesn't track illegal alien murders, illegal alien rapes or illegal alien drunk driving deaths, it has studied illegal aliens incarcerated in U.S. prisons.

In April 2005, the Government Accountability Office released a report on a study of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003. It found the following:

The 55,322 illegal aliens studied represented a total of 459,614 arrests – some eight arrests per illegal alien;

Their arrests represented a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses – some 13 offenses per illegal alien;

36 percent had been arrested at least five times before.

Read more: Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily http://www.wnd.com/...

[TeaRex]

1.$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments. V

2.$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

3.$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

4.$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

5.$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

6.$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

8.$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for welfare social services by the American taxpayers.

9.$200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our southern border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from terrorist countries.

12. The National Policy Institute,“estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.”

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.

14.“The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.”

[TeaRex]

The annual cost for uncompensated emergency care to Mexican Border States (California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas) is $200 million. California taxpayers paid $79 million for illegal alien health care. Four major Los Angeles hospitals were bankrupted and shut down in 2004. Texas paid $74 million. Georgia ran a $63 million deficit for 64,000 unpaid doctor visits in 2002. Cochise County, Arizona spent 30% of its annual budget on uncompensated care to illegal aliens. University Medical Care in Tucson, Arizona spent $10 million on uncompensated care to illegal aliens. 77 hospitals in the four Border States now face financial emergencies. Legal citizens are forced to fly emergency patients to other cities for treatment. Taxes are going up to compensate.
Meanwhile, as a result of the Federal Emergency Medical Act, Mexican ambulance drivers are transporting hospital patients unable to pay for medical care in Mexico to facilities in the United States. The ambulances are driving through unguarded potions of the border with “little resistance” at the instruction of Mexican officials.

[TeaRex]

The Jobs Americans Don’t Want

In 2003, illegal aliens displaced American workers at a cost in excess of $133 billion, while American college and high school students can’t find summer jobs in yard care, landscape, fast food or service jobs – because illegal aliens work those jobs at a third of the wage – often under the table.

[TeaRex]

Crime

Crimes committed by alien criminals, such as rape, murder or drug distribution costs U.S. taxpayers $1.6 billion in prison costs alone. The figure doesn’t include the cost of lost property, medical bills of the victims, time lost from work to recover, higher insurance costs, etc. Today, illegal aliens make up twenty nine percent of the U.S. prison population – or 500,000 illegals.

[TeaRex]

So let’s add up the figures and see how much illegals are costing us on average. I came up with this figure, which may or may not be accurate since most of these numbers were rounded out.

$293,679,000,000.00 billion dollars per year…

That’s an awful lot of freebies in this country for illegals that you and I pay for. And this has NOTHING to do with race or racism. This is simple math, not prejudice.

[TeaRex]

chew on those facts for a while...