Immigrants & K-12 Debate - Farmington, MO

Discuss the national Immigrants & K-12 debate in Farmington, MO.

Should America provide K-12 schooling for young illegal immigrants?

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“Nobama care”

Since: Mar 11

just a tax hike

#23 Mar 12, 2012
hometown guy wrote:
Illegals are illegals, bottom line, whether they are 5 or 50, send their asses back. Get a job, pay taxes, and speak English. No one is "entitled" to anything (even school you don't belong at) That's the problem with America, everyone thinks their entitled to something.
Great post !

Since: Feb 12

United States

#24 Mar 12, 2012
Become Americans and then go to school. If your from another country then work to become a part of ours. Your not going to get everything in life handed to you on a golden platter. Let's teach our own correctly before reaching others.
blah

Farmington, MO

#25 Mar 12, 2012
Dear God, these are all such incredibly racist posts. You can be against illegal immigrants, but at least don't degrade them. I go to school with a girl from Mexico and she learned perfectly understandable English in six months. I'd like to see a lot of you bigots do that. She's 3rd in our class and smarter than a lot of Americans I know. Her dad is a doctor and they pay taxes just like everyone else. Just because they came here illegally does not mean they aren't educated and are lazy; a lot are smarter and work harder towards their goals here than regular Americans do.
hometown guy

United States

#26 Mar 13, 2012
blah wrote:
Dear God, these are all such incredibly racist posts. You can be against illegal immigrants, but at least don't degrade them. I go to school with a girl from Mexico and she learned perfectly understandable English in six months. I'd like to see a lot of you bigots do that. She's 3rd in our class and smarter than a lot of Americans I know. Her dad is a doctor and they pay taxes just like everyone else. Just because they came here illegally does not mean they aren't educated and are lazy; a lot are smarter and work harder towards their goals here than regular Americans do.
Let me guess, you think everyone is entitled to something don't you? And don't call me a racist, because I am nothing of the sort. I believe in hard working, blue collar Americans, being able to raise their families in a country where you don't have press 2 for English. Unemployment is at 8.3 percent. Gee I wonder why. Probably bc we have a surplus of illegal immigrants who will work for less money than the everyday American. And the people who hire them are just as guilty. So hop off your soap box and support America instead of telling us what we are/aren't, and telling us how great illegal immigrants are.
Love the cops

United States

#27 Mar 13, 2012
No we should not I'm sooooo sick of people coming from other countries. And taking stuff away from us american people just like the welfare system it only works for you if your black not white if your black they give you everything if your white they take it from you I thinkthat is bullshit I'm tired of working and supporting pieces of lazy shit

Since: Nov 11

Jacksonville, FL

#28 Mar 13, 2012
First off if America is going to dish out any education to anybody’s kids then teach the truth and a more accurate education especially when involving history! Is America contributing to the problem of why we have young illegal immigrants in the first place? If yes then of course America should be partially responsible for providing care from all aspects – but not just for foreign children but for America’s children as well. America wants to police the world and tear down other country’s’ governments then rebuild them again – but don’t want to provide education to the world and the immigrants because that’s another additional big responsibility? Sounds like a big messy situation America has got its self in. America just needs to tighten up and get its act together, both its people and its government.

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Screw you

United States

#29 Mar 13, 2012
hometown guy wrote:
Illegals are illegals, bottom line, whether they are 5 or 50, send their asses back. Get a job, pay taxes, and speak English. No one is "entitled" to anything (even school you don't belong at) That's the problem with America, everyone thinks their entitled to something.
Anyone that tells people to "speak english loses my respect instantly. There's no official required language for a reason, you bigotted ass.
Screw you

United States

#30 Mar 13, 2012
hometown guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me guess, you think everyone is entitled to something don't you? And don't call me a racist, because I am nothing of the sort. I believe in hard working, blue collar Americans, being able to raise their families in a country where you don't have press 2 for English. Unemployment is at 8.3 percent. Gee I wonder why. Probably bc we have a surplus of illegal immigrants who will work for less money than the everyday American. And the people who hire them are just as guilty. So hop off your soap box and support America instead of telling us what we are/aren't, and telling us how great illegal immigrants are.
One of the requirements of a democracy is an educated public. It is people like you who ASSUME unemployment is because of illegal immigration and buy into anti-immigrant propaganda without a second thought that prevents such a utopian democracy. You're a moron: anyone who complains about having to push a button for english is a bigot, and ethno-centered. Take a cultural diversity class, and an economics class and you'd realize immigrants are not the problem with this country's fiscal situation.
To blame an entire economic crisis on one factor just shows so much prejudice. But of course, you're not a racist. Yeah, right.
hometown guy

United States

#31 Mar 13, 2012
Screw you wrote:
<quoted text>Anyone that tells people to "speak english loses my respect instantly. There's no official required language for a reason, you bigotted ass.
Do people in France speak French? Do people in Spain speak Spanish? Then why in the hell can't someone in AMERICA speak english, I think your late for your liberal meeting, jackass.
hometown guy

United States

#32 Mar 13, 2012
Screw you wrote:
<quoted text>One of the requirements of a democracy is an educated public. It is people like you who ASSUME unemployment is because of illegal immigration and buy into anti-immigrant propaganda without a second thought that prevents such a utopian democracy. You're a moron: anyone who complains about having to push a button for english is a bigot, and ethno-centered. Take a cultural diversity class, and an economics class and you'd realize immigrants are not the problem with this country's fiscal situation.
To blame an entire economic crisis on one factor just shows so much prejudice. But of course, you're not a racist. Yeah, right.
There is no assumption that unemployment is high bc of immigration. Between that and losing jobs to foreign countries, America is falling apart, and these two issues are the main contributory reasons. I'm sorry that I don't meet your approval for being culturally diversified, I'm sorry I believe in America and hard working blue collar American people who work for a hard earned dollar. Let the Americans work and ship the illegals back to where ever they came from. Do you see Americans illegally immigrating to other countries? No. Bc we have it better off than most others? Presumably. But everyone in life is dealt a hand of cards, some hands better than others, but it's up to the person how he/she plays them. So quit calling me a Bigot and a racist, I'm not, I'm an American, who supports his country and every damn one of the blue collar workers in it. And if you don't like that, you may kiss my American, blue collar, country, ass.

“Nobama care”

Since: Mar 11

just a tax hike

#33 Mar 13, 2012
Screw you wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone that tells people to "speak english loses my respect instantly. There's no official required language for a reason, you bigotted ass.
Anti American bleeding heart liberal commie jerk !
blah

Farmington, MO

#34 Mar 13, 2012
hometown guy wrote:
<quoted text>Let me guess, you think everyone is entitled to something don't you? And don't call me a racist, because I am nothing of the sort. I believe in hard working, blue collar Americans, being able to raise their families in a country where you don't have press 2 for English. Unemployment is at 8.3 percent. Gee I wonder why. Probably bc we have a surplus of illegal immigrants who will work for less money than the everyday American. And the people who hire them are just as guilty. So hop off your soap box and support America instead of telling us what we are/aren't, and telling us how great illegal immigrants are.
And this is why you're still uninformed and racist...America has no official language so it's not like English is a nationally endorsed thing. America was built on immigration. Our unemployment rates are up due to complex economic issues that have built up over the years and are perfectly normal; this sort of thing happens. Illegal immigrants would make up a small fraction of the reason why. I don't support them coming either...but don't just assume we're better and that they aren't hard working people.
hometown guy

United States

#35 Mar 13, 2012
blah wrote:
<quoted text>And this is why you're still uninformed and racist...America has no official language so it's not like English is a nationally endorsed thing. America was built on immigration. Our unemployment rates are up due to complex economic issues that have built up over the years and are perfectly normal; this sort of thing happens. Illegal immigrants would make up a small fraction of the reason why. I don't support them coming either...but don't just assume we're better and that they aren't hard working people.
Did I say "we are better" did I say "they aren't hard working people" what did I say that could have been misconstrued. Please, enlighten me. As far as I'm concerned no race is better than another, and no race "works harder" than another. It's the fact that Americans should be given the opportunity to jobs before illegal immigrants should. They shouldn't be here (that's why they are called ILLEGAL) so why should someone that isn't supposed to be here in the first place get the jobs that Americans, supporting American families, who are LEGAL, have? Bc they'll work for less? I would probably work for less if I didn't have to pay taxes and pay bills, insurance, etc., we all would. I'm fine with the fact that several people on this post think I'm racist and an ass. Because at the end of the day, I come home to a house and farm that's paid for with my money, that I earn at my job, that i pay taxes on, and am not freeloading from all the hard working Americans out there. And if you or anyone else has an opinion that differs, then so be it, we are all entitled to an opinion. I just happen to think the people who have said otherwise on this post are white collar city people that don't see how illegal immigrants taking our jobs affect us. Someone has to be wrong, just glad it's you people :)
hometown guy

United States

#36 Mar 13, 2012
blah wrote:
<quoted text>And this is why you're still uninformed and racist...America has no official language so it's not like English is a nationally endorsed thing. America was built on immigration. Our unemployment rates are up due to complex economic issues that have built up over the years and are perfectly normal; this sort of thing happens. Illegal immigrants would make up a small fraction of the reason why. I don't support them coming either...but don't just assume we're better and that they aren't hard working people.
Oh and to you and "screw you" call me every name you want. I've been called worse things by better people, I'm sure.
blah

Farmington, MO

#37 Mar 13, 2012
hometown guy wrote:
<quoted text>Did I say "we are better" did I say "they aren't hard working people" what did I say that could have been misconstrued. Please, enlighten me. As far as I'm concerned no race is better than another, and no race "works harder" than another. It's the fact that Americans should be given the opportunity to jobs before illegal immigrants should. They shouldn't be here (that's why they are called ILLEGAL) so why should someone that isn't supposed to be here in the first place get the jobs that Americans, supporting American families, who are LEGAL, have? Bc they'll work for less? I would probably work for less if I didn't have to pay taxes and pay bills, insurance, etc., we all would. I'm fine with the fact that several people on this post think I'm racist and an ass. Because at the end of the day, I come home to a house and farm that's paid for with my money, that I earn at my job, that i pay taxes on, and am not freeloading from all the hard working Americans out there. And if you or anyone else has an opinion that differs, then so be it, we are all entitled to an opinion. I just happen to think the people who have said otherwise on this post are white collar city people that don't see how illegal immigrants taking our jobs affect us. Someone has to be wrong, just glad it's you people :)
You know, I also think they are somewhat entitled. Guess who stole land back during the formation of southern America? We did. We took it as "ours" and were illegal immigrants on THEIR land. Typical American "We're better than everyone else" hypocrisy. There's no freeloading involved, they work just as hard as you do and spend their own money doing menial sometimes that Americans find degrading or beneath them. and pay taxes. Most will take the time to become legal. And I like how you say everyone is entitled to an opinion and then say you're right. News flash, opinions do not have right or wrong answers.
hometown guy

United States

#38 Mar 14, 2012
blah wrote:
<quoted text>You know, I also think they are somewhat entitled. Guess who stole land back during the formation of southern America? We did. We took it as "ours" and were illegal immigrants on THEIR land. Typical American "We're better than everyone else" hypocrisy. There's no freeloading involved, they work just as hard as you do and spend their own money doing menial sometimes that Americans find degrading or beneath them. and pay taxes. Most will take the time to become legal. And I like how you say everyone is entitled to an opinion and then say you're right. News flash, opinions do not have right or wrong answers.
Ok, once again, you're wrong NO ONE is entitled to shit! It's people like you that really get under my skin. No one is entitled to shit, ever. Work for it. If they're illegal they don't pay taxes, and it shouldn't be their money bc they don't deserve it, THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, that's like rewarding them for breaking the law "oh yea come on over, we'll give you a job" your are dumbass. Let me guess, you were one of those kids in school who's tee ball team didn't keep score, you tried hard and that's all that matters right? Wrong, they aren't supposed to be here, they free load and need to be shipped back, and that's not an opinion, that's the cold hard truth. So quit being a moron and supporting giving our jobs to illegal free loaders, while Americans are jobless. Damn communist. Sounds like you need to go to one their countries, you would get along great! And we'd have less one less liberal jackass here.
blah

Farmington, MO

#39 Mar 14, 2012
hometown guy wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, once again, you're wrong NO ONE is entitled to shit! It's people like you that really get under my skin. No one is entitled to shit, ever. Work for it. If they're illegal they don't pay taxes, and it shouldn't be their money bc they don't deserve it, THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, that's like rewarding them for breaking the law "oh yea come on over, we'll give you a job" your are dumbass. Let me guess, you were one of those kids in school who's tee ball team didn't keep score, you tried hard and that's all that matters right? Wrong, they aren't supposed to be here, they free load and need to be shipped back, and that's not an opinion, that's the cold hard truth. So quit being a moron and supporting giving our jobs to illegal free loaders, while Americans are jobless. Damn communist. Sounds like you need to go to one their countries, you would get along great! And we'd have less one less liberal jackass here.
It's people like you, with no empathy for others and a ridiculously small amount of political knowledge that get under my skin. I didn't say they were entitled, I simply pointed out that before you say anything about them being free loading illegals, remember we once were too. We took all of this land away from others without any remorse. And since we are going to make random assumptions now I'm guessing you watch Fox News every night and kiss a picture of Bill O'Reilly before you go to sleep?:) And I'm definitely not a communist or a liberal jackass, I'm an empathic citizen with an OPINION, which factually cannot be wrong or right.
hometown guy

United States

#40 Mar 14, 2012
blah wrote:
<quoted text>It's people like you, with no empathy for others and a ridiculously small amount of political knowledge that get under my skin. I didn't say they were entitled, I simply pointed out that before you say anything about them being free loading illegals, remember we once were too. We took all of this land away from others without any remorse. And since we are going to make random assumptions now I'm guessing you watch Fox News every night and kiss a picture of Bill O'Reilly before you go to sleep?:) And I'm definitely not a communist or a liberal jackass, I'm an empathic citizen with an OPINION, which factually cannot be wrong or right.
First off, if your Ancestors came through Ellis island than it was LEGAL immigration, I'm not talking about taking the land from people. I'm talking about illegal immigration, so stay on subject. And take a history lesson. Now, about the empathy. No I have no empathy for illegal free loading pieces of shit, they are thieves (essentially) and you are an idiot. No, I watched Fox news 1 time and turned it off with disgust. Don't act like you know me or anything about me, let me guess, you're a woman, mid 30's and a liberal democrat?
blah

Farmington, MO

#41 Mar 14, 2012
hometown guy wrote:
<quoted text>First off, if your Ancestors came through Ellis island than it was LEGAL immigration, I'm not talking about taking the land from people. I'm talking about illegal immigration, so stay on subject. And take a history lesson. Now, about the empathy. No I have no empathy for illegal free loading pieces of shit, they are thieves (essentially) and you are an idiot. No, I watched Fox news 1 time and turned it off with disgust. Don't act like you know me or anything about me, let me guess, you're a woman, mid 30's and a liberal democrat?
Native Americans ring a bell? Texas? Hawaii? We all seized them. They are not pieces of shit, they want to have a better life, something Americans take for granted. Once they come over they do usually become legal. And I only generalized because you did, calling me a communist. I am none of the above, male, 20's, and a moderate. That's totally fine to not support them, but you don't have to be such an asshole about it.
monica

United States

#42 Mar 15, 2012
You can't blame illegals on not having jobs here all of our factories are moving to Mexico and china that's y there's no jobs here. Also if there wasn't so many lazy Americans who think welfare is a career maybe US would have more $. Then I have seen so many ppl about 20-25 yrs who think jobs should be handed to them they don't want to do real labor lets see all these young ppl work the long hours as an illegal. I do know a few illegals and they work and pay in taxes but get.no tax return. They don't get to get $8,000 come back on any return just cause they have kids. I do believe if they are gonna live here and work here they do need to speak English. But this topic was about kids going to school ,you should never turn down a child the right to education!!!!!! Its in no way the kids fault how their parents brought them here just let them go to school so they can learn to speak English. If we took every illegal out of the US and put all Americans to work how much do you think our groceries would go up? The increase $ weise on so many things would be horrible . I think if they are working not causing problems and have kids here in school let them be. I would rather see an illegal here working than see another heroin drug dealer running the streets.

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