Romney-Ryan Debate - Utica, NY

Discuss the national Romney-Ryan debate in Utica, NY.

Are you happy that Romney picked Paul Ryan as his VP?

Utica is happy with the Ryan pick.
Yes
 
33
No
 
21
Don't care
 
8

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victorville

Syracuse, NY

#177 Oct 13, 2012
Wall Street again wrote:
The reason why Romney/Ryan wants to privatize SS is because it will allow more profit for their Wall Street buddies. You remember them. The guys responsible for the big meltdown. Wall Street raiders make their money on a daily basis by doing the shuck and jive thing with the market and constantly trying to stay ahead of the market. That's great for them, because they pocket the profit on a daily basis. Problem is, they're using our money to do it! For the people in the long haul, they will be at the mercy of the raiders and the market when they try to collect on their SS and other retirement plans. The Wall Street raiders don't care because they skim the profit off the top every day and if the market tanks again..guess who's money will bail them out? That's right...OURS! The dirty little secret is that when the market tanked..Wall Street didn't suffer. They already made their cash and ran with it and left the rest of us in piss poor shape! The money men are always the same, the only thing that changes is their face and the name on their business cards!
Wall Street is now warning America about the Fiscal Cliff that is coming. Sell your stock and get ready for the BREAD LINES.
eddie munster

New York, NY

#178 Oct 13, 2012
"Over the course of this Presidential campaign, we’ve learned one thing about Mitt Romney: that he is willing to say virtually anything if he thinks it will get him a vote. A case in point is last week’s Presidential debate in Denver, where Romney told at least 27 falsehoods in only 38 minutes of speaking, which is an average of one lie every 86 seconds."
eddie munster

New York, NY

#179 Oct 13, 2012
Romney's Bain Capital did what they do best. They bought out a company called Sensata Tech and are in the process of outsourcing it to China.

They even brought in Chinese workers for the current employees to train. Yea, they were forced to train their own replacements.

And Bain Capital forced the company to take down their American flag and put up a Chinese flag while they trained them.
Funny

United States

#180 Oct 13, 2012
Vote romney

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#181 Oct 13, 2012
liberal wrote:
<quoted text>what about the guy thats 50 and has payed in to it for 35 yrs ? Are you going to tell him fu sorry you get 500 bucks go find your own health care. When it cost 1700 ayear. Nice plan. Oh by the way no ssi for you in till your 70. Hope you die soon
You are correct, but you missed a zero, my Health Insurance costs $16,000 per year.

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#182 Oct 13, 2012
Why is it, when Bush was President, the Health of the Stock Market was the litmus test for how well the economy was doing and now? Not so much.
Get real goof

Utica, NY

#183 Oct 13, 2012
Who cares about Bush idiot? Are you still using this? God this is what lost this election for Obama. He can't hide from all his failures. Nice try idiot.
victorville

Syracuse, NY

#184 Oct 13, 2012
eddie munster wrote:
Romney's Bain Capital did what they do best. They bought out a company called Sensata Tech and are in the process of outsourcing it to China.
They even brought in Chinese workers for the current employees to train. Yea, they were forced to train their own replacements.
And Bain Capital forced the company to take down their American flag and put up a Chinese flag while they trained them.
Markos Moulitsas is nothing but a progressive. I wouldn't listen to him.

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#185 Oct 13, 2012
Get real goof wrote:
Who cares about Bush idiot? Are you still using this? God this is what lost this election for Obama. He can't hide from all his failures. Nice try idiot.
I'm talking about the fact that the stock market numbers have almost doubled since 2008, but thanks for calling Bush an idiot so I didn't have to.
Romney Ryan 2012

New Hartford, NY

#186 Oct 14, 2012
Who needs to debate. On one side you have the Obama failure and on the other side you have the future President and a new direction for the country. The election is over, Romney is going to win, the only thing we need now is to stop Obama from doing any more damage in his last 3 months.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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Home, sweet home.

#187 Oct 15, 2012
Bodhisatva wrote:
If Ryan's plan is Sooo great, answer one simple question, WHY don't they want it for current recipients? And if someone 54 years old who has been paying FICA for 38 years isn't going to get what they are ENTITLED to, what's in it for them? And most importantly, when those who choose to no longer participate pull their contributions out, what will happen to these programs?
Here's the Fact: Republicans, and Conservatives have ALWAYS opposed Social Security and Medicare, this Ryan Plan would END these programs in short order.
These programs won't last forever. They are Ponzi schemes from progressive left.

The government can convert some of the Medicare and Social Security grant into land. There are plenty of good ways to pay off suckers, without raising taxes. Cut down on the bureaucrats,
bill

Woburn, MA

#188 Oct 15, 2012
Republican accomplishments lied to irac war,thousands of our beloved sons and daughters dead,thousands of civilians dead,thousands injured, banks and corruption run wild, pensions and funds lost,world trade center suspicious hit,greatest recession since depression, started the massive debt by not funding the two wars,lost our place in the world, and you idiots want to go back to the Neo con republicans running things, you have short memories Romney is a pupet who just wants the title to add to his life story,the Neo cons,the chaneys,and such will run things they don't care for you 47 percent scum.
sam

Woburn, MA

#189 Oct 15, 2012
Romney even admitted he cares less for you 47 percent of America thank want a hond out, you know who he means, senior s,veterens,wall mart workers, Joe the plumbers, average slobs, the super rich look at the rest of America as a pain to them,try getting to know one of them,or having your son marry one of their daughters.you couldn't get near their private clubs of yaghts. They wouldn't even pis on you.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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Home, sweet home.

#190 Oct 16, 2012
Biden voted for Iraq and Afghanistan, DOMA and Don't Ask, Don't Tell. They are idiots.
Big Bird

United States

#191 Oct 16, 2012
President Romney taking control January 2013

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

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#192 Oct 16, 2012
And Big Bird is going to pay for all its own feed.
liberal

Waltham, MA

#193 Oct 16, 2012
Willard comes from a long list of cowards. When the going got tough grampa hid out in Mexico. When the usa went to war willard mitt romney hid in france to get out of the war. What a bunch of pussys in that family. Not one of them will stand up and fight for America.
Obama Accomplisment List

Covina, CA

#194 Oct 18, 2012
Obama had 4 years to change the country for the better.

Seriously, can anyone name one good thing this guy's done for America?

I need not explain how he and his corrupt guttertrash Chicago mafia handlers have made everything worse. Simply look around with your own lying eyes for proof.

We need real jobs, not McWalmart jobs.

We also don't need the Obama Administration continuing on it's current path to oblivion without having to worry about re-election. This would be dangerous to our constitution's survival and our pocketbooks.

Romney is owned by the same international bankers as Obama destroying America from overseas.

However by hittig the reset button on the corrupt, power crazed, Obama administration it gives more Americans time to wake up to what is presently happening to America.

Obama may be likeable but he is incompetent.

In some aspects Obama is right when he says ((("you didn't build/create that, government did.")))

Let's look at what this administration has created in 4 short years and imagine what he can do with 8:

- Socialist eugenics based health care (((Obamacare)))

-NDAA (((National Defense Authorization Act))) where Americans can now be disappeared without a jury

- Out of control (((Crony Capitalism))) where government picks winners and losers based on payouts -not the free market eg. Solyndra, GM, MF Global, Numerous Bank Bailouts, No Prosecution of criminal Banksters

-(((Fast and Furious))) and other suspected domestic false flags to argue for abolishing the 2nd ammendmant

- Massive (((TSA expansion))) onto America's streets and armed (((survellance drones/now blimps))) operating over US territory.

-(((UN control of U.S. military troops to invade))) Egypt, Syria, parts of Africa, etc. for offshore bankers aka Nazism

-(((Trickle Down Government))) The idea that nothing can be built without (((more government bureaucrats and global warming regulations/taxes))) getting in the way

-(((Throwing Israel -an important ally- under the bus))) by destabalizing all the county's around it but not offering them any assurances of protection

- A (((continuation of Bush's failed policies))), like not getting out of Iraq, Afghanastan, and no closing of Guantanamo torture camps

-(((Polaraized race relations))) eg. Disrespectful hadling of the Treyvon Martin family after his murder -opportunistic my son would have looked like Treyvon soundbite- and media staged racial infighting between Americans setting up for social conflict right before the 2012 election

-(((No Proof Obama supposedly got Osama)))) America was never really allowed to see the body/proof ; -)

-(((Defunding of NASA))) No exploration of the stars for the U.S., leave that to countries that are exceptional

-(((No Plan/ or Budget to Fix Anything going forward if he is re-elected )))-always says what you want to hear, then does the exact opposite hoping you''ll forget by the next speech -(((Sociopathic Liar)))

-(((Obamaphone)))-Massive expansion of this program for his dependant voting base

-(((Unlimited QE3 leading to hyperinflation/ monopoly money))) Dollar is rapidly losing purchasing power resulting in skyrocketing food and GAS PRICES (especially for "green gas" in CA)

-(((Needed a tainted Creepy Crawley moderator to hold his hand during the second debate))) who helped him dodge hard questions he couldn't answer -a (((weak affirmative action President)))

- And of course my personal favorite (((legalizing the illegals))) temporarily until the election is over but not once addressing true immigration reform

- The list goes on.

Is this change you can believe in? Is this what you really want another 4 years of?

As Donald Trump would say: Obama you're fired:



Too bad Ron Paul chickened out. I'd still vote for him if he changed his mind however.

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#195 Oct 18, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>These programs won't last forever. They are Ponzi schemes from progressive left.
The government can convert some of the Medicare and Social Security grant into land. There are plenty of good ways to pay off suckers, without raising taxes. Cut down on the bureaucrats,
Social Security has NEVER missed a payment to a Beneficiary in 75 years! Medicare is in trouble due to the holes drilled in it by REPUBLICANS, holes like Medicare Part D. Designed to kill the program, while falsely proclaiming to "help" Seniors. Tri-Care and the V.A. can negotiate with Big Pharma for Drug prices, Medicare Part D is NOT ALLOWED TO by Law, Why?
Do you know why you can by bulk items for less at BJ's? Because when an item is purchased in bulk they cost less.
Tell me why George W.Bush would design a progam(not paid for) and not allow us to negotiate prices?

You Conservative Republican Voters Kill Me. You support the party that weakens these programs and then jump in to the Parade of Jack holes yelling about their failure. Disgusting.
Another lib nutjob

Utica, NY

#196 Oct 18, 2012
Bodhisatva wrote:
<quoted text>Social Security has NEVER missed a payment to a Beneficiary in 75 years! Medicare is in trouble due to the holes drilled in it by REPUBLICANS, holes like Medicare Part D. Designed to kill the program, while falsely proclaiming to "help" Seniors. Tri-Care and the V.A. can negotiate with Big Pharma for Drug prices, Medicare Part D is NOT ALLOWED TO by Law, Why?
Do you know why you can by bulk items for less at BJ's? Because when an item is purchased in bulk they cost less.
Tell me why George W.Bush would design a progam(not paid for) and not allow us to negotiate prices?
You Conservative Republican Voters Kill Me. You support the party that weakens these programs and then jump in to the Parade of Jack holes yelling about their failure. Disgusting.
Still shilling for hoax and pocket change? Your party obsessed drivel is getting old considering basically anyone on this forum besides your sock puppets give you an oz of credibility.
Why not just adopt truth in advertising and start calling yourself "Rantor"?

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