Romney-Ryan Debate - Utica, NY

Discuss the national Romney-Ryan debate in Utica, NY.

Are you happy that Romney picked Paul Ryan as his VP?

Utica is happy with the Ryan pick.
Yes
 
33
No
 
21
Don't care
 
8

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The Truth

Cicero, NY

#154 Oct 3, 2012
Obama's failure to do anything sends California gas prices skyrocketing

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Home, sweet home.

#155 Oct 3, 2012
liberal wrote:
his plan is to do away with it
His plan is to make it sustainable while giving options to younger workers. Social Security and Medicare are on the path to bankruptcy, all Obama has done is take from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare and privatize a small part of Social Security, lessening contributions and future payouts in the name of a 'payroll tax cut'. Those actions only make the problem worse; Romney and Ryan want to solve the problem.

I don't believe Obama sees government debt as a problem, I think he wants to borrow and spend more money. That's why I'm voting for Romney.
Guess what

Utica, NY

#156 Oct 3, 2012
There are other people running for president besides Romney and Obama!!!!!

If you are going to vote for Romney, check out this guy instead, he is from the Constitution Party.

http://www.goodeforpresident2012.com/biograph...
victorville

Syracuse, NY

#157 Oct 4, 2012
The Democrats new ticket-DUMB and DUMBER. Can't wait for Ryan to bury Biden. Boy will I miss Biden-biggest joke in Washington.
Romney 2012

United States

#158 Oct 5, 2012
Romney will be thE President in 2012.

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#159 Oct 7, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>His plan is to make it sustainable while giving options to younger workers. Social Security and Medicare are on the path to bankruptcy, all Obama has done is take from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare and privatize a small part of Social Security, lessening contributions and future payouts in the name of a 'payroll tax cut'. Those actions only make the problem worse; Romney and Ryan want to solve the problem.
I don't believe Obama sees government debt as a problem, I think he wants to borrow and spend more money. That's why I'm voting for Romney.
I'm not sure where you pulled this from, but it smells like Bull Shit. Ryan and Romney plan to privatize Social Security, Obama has done no such thing(not even a small part) whatever the F that means. Obama DID NOT "take from medicare" to pay for Obama care, that is simply a Lie. What the Affordable Care act does, is reduce the subsidies to Private Insurance Companies currently coming out of Medicare. It also reduces the amount paid to Dr.s and Hospitals(both are fine with that due to the increase in patients with the ability to pay) And it gives more People Preventative Care, which over the long term will produce massive savings.
Here's the problem, it is not something that can be easily explained in a "soundbite" or on a "bumper sticker" so the Right Wing echo chamber has an easier time Lying about it, and convincing suckers like you that it is "very scary, and Bad and awful and no good" BE AFRAID!!!!!!! BE VERY AFRAID!!!! That's what they are best at.
Goodbye Barry

New Hartford, NY

#160 Oct 7, 2012
Romney gained 8 points after destroying obama in the debate.
Jerry

Syracuse, NY

#162 Oct 8, 2012

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#163 Oct 9, 2012
Bodhisatva wrote:
I'm not sure where you pulled this from, but it smells like Bull Shit. Ryan and Romney plan to privatize Social Security, Obama has done no such thing(not even a small part) whatever the F that means. Obama DID NOT "take from medicare" to pay for Obama care, that is simply a Lie. What the Affordable Care act does, is reduce the subsidies to Private Insurance Companies currently coming out of Medicare. It also reduces the amount paid to Dr.s and Hospitals(both are fine with that due to the increase in patients with the ability to pay) And it gives more People Preventative Care, which over the long term will produce massive savings.
Here's the problem, it is not something that can be easily explained in a "soundbite" or on a "bumper sticker" so the Right Wing echo chamber has an easier time Lying about it, and convincing suckers like you that it is "very scary, and Bad and awful and no good" BE AFRAID!!!!!!! BE VERY AFRAID!!!! That's what they are best at.
We think our political opponents are mistaken so sometimes they make misstatements, they think we are greedy and mean so we lie; this is where we differ.

Ryan's plan makes no change to Social Security and Medicare for people 55 and older. It does give younger workers the opportunity to privatize those retirement benefits, but they can elect to stay in Social Security and Medicare if they choose. You can look up Ryan's plan at his Congressional website.

Mediscare isn't working for Obama, he looked uncomfortable at the debate. Romney seemed comfortable, likable and confident. I'm voting for Romney.

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Brighton

#164 Oct 9, 2012
yes
Jerry

Tully, NY

#166 Oct 9, 2012
Romney is determined to destroy everything. Obama 2012!

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#167 Oct 10, 2012
Obama's got US troops in Jordan. I trust Romney more, to lead them. Free our people from the promised land.

The problem is, thousands of Syrian refrugees are jumping the border into Jordan. Some are shooting mortars.

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#168 Oct 11, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>We think our political opponents are mistaken so sometimes they make misstatements, they think we are greedy and mean so we lie; this is where we differ.
Ryan's plan makes no change to Social Security and Medicare for people 55 and older. It does give younger workers the opportunity to privatize those retirement benefits, but they can elect to stay in Social Security and Medicare if they choose. You can look up Ryan's plan at his Congressional website.
Mediscare isn't working for Obama, he looked uncomfortable at the debate. Romney seemed comfortable, likable and confident. I'm voting for Romney.
If Ryan's plan is Sooo great, answer one simple question, WHY don't they want it for current recipients? And if someone 54 years old who has been paying FICA for 38 years isn't going to get what they are ENTITLED to, what's in it for them? And most importantly, when those who choose to no longer participate pull their contributions out, what will happen to these programs?

Here's the Fact: Republicans, and Conservatives have ALWAYS opposed Social Security and Medicare, this Ryan Plan would END these programs in short order.
Traci

Holland Patent, NY

#169 Oct 11, 2012
He's smart and uses common sense. How novel,
help utica

Boston, MA

#171 Oct 12, 2012
if you see that debate biden knocked that little munster all over the place.
gleck ben

Syracuse, NY

#172 Oct 12, 2012
Ben Gleck wrote:
Are there no news outlets where you live or are you just plain stupid.
Ryan wrote and had passed thru the House a BUDGET with over 200 some off votes. The Obama budget got ZERO votes. Just with the Budget Ryan has done more than Obama has done in almost 4 years. In fact the only Obama accomplishment is destroying the US economy.
People as stupid as you need help.
<quoted text>
speaking of stupid........duh
gleck ben

Syracuse, NY

#173 Oct 12, 2012
Romney 2012 wrote:
Romney will be thE President in 2012.
nope, sorry
liberal

New York, NY

#174 Oct 12, 2012
victorville wrote:
The Democrats new ticket-DUMB and DUMBER. Can't wait for Ryan to bury Biden. Boy will I miss Biden-biggest joke in Washington.
how did your punk boy do. Lol
liberal

New York, NY

#175 Oct 12, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>We think our political opponents are mistaken so sometimes they make misstatements, they think we are greedy and mean so we lie; this is where we differ.
Ryan's plan makes no change to Social Security and Medicare for people 55 and older. It does give younger workers the opportunity to privatize those retirement benefits, but they can elect to stay in Social Security and Medicare if they choose. You can look up Ryan's plan at his Congressional website.
Mediscare isn't working for Obama, he looked uncomfortable at the debate. Romney seemed comfortable, likable and confident. I'm voting for Romney.
what about the guy thats 50 and has payed in to it for 35 yrs ? Are you going to tell him fu sorry you get 500 bucks go find your own health care. When it cost 1700 ayear. Nice plan. Oh by the way no ssi for you in till your 70. Hope you die soon
Wall Street again

Utica, NY

#176 Oct 12, 2012
The reason why Romney/Ryan wants to privatize SS is because it will allow more profit for their Wall Street buddies. You remember them. The guys responsible for the big meltdown. Wall Street raiders make their money on a daily basis by doing the shuck and jive thing with the market and constantly trying to stay ahead of the market. That's great for them, because they pocket the profit on a daily basis. Problem is, they're using our money to do it! For the people in the long haul, they will be at the mercy of the raiders and the market when they try to collect on their SS and other retirement plans. The Wall Street raiders don't care because they skim the profit off the top every day and if the market tanks again..guess who's money will bail them out? That's right...OURS! The dirty little secret is that when the market tanked..Wall Street didn't suffer. They already made their cash and ran with it and left the rest of us in piss poor shape! The money men are always the same, the only thing that changes is their face and the name on their business cards!

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