Romney-Ryan Debate - Mountain City, TN

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Ralph

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Aug 13, 2012
Finally competent leadership
red neck

Stantonsburg, NC

#2 Aug 13, 2012
Their goes my Medicare
voice n wilderness

Stantonsburg, NC

#3 Aug 14, 2012
this country must become independent again, We need to pull out of the free trade deals that has sucked jobs and industry out of this country, Need to Tax Exports, Imports, and Limit the amounts of products coming into this Country and start producing them ourselves, That will create massive employment in this country, Stop exporting our technology, Go back to taxing the rich by the rates of Eisenhower administration days, Why should We Americans lower our standard of living and education to the level of the third world and give it to the supper rich.
voice n wilderness

Stantonsburg, NC

#4 Aug 14, 2012
The Rockefeller's and other very rich would not reinvest and were hiding their money during the depression, Roosevelt changed the money and gave them a certain amount of time for exchange, It worked, during the Eisenhower administration the tax on the wealthy was high the only way they could get a tax break was to reinvest in America and charities it worked, You had import tax as well as export tax kept the American treasury healthy, Also A lot of that was used in building the highway systems in this country, It worked, Eisenhower Built the highway systems in this country.
Tea Party

Johnson City, TN

#5 Aug 14, 2012
If Romney didn't pick Allen West, then Paul Ryan was my 2nd choice. I agree with his principles and values.
Tea Party

Johnson City, TN

#6 Aug 14, 2012
red neck wrote:
Their goes my Medicare
WRONG!! He is going to save your Medicare. So there!
voice n wilderness

Stantonsburg, NC

#7 Aug 14, 2012
Tea Party wrote:
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WRONG!! He is going to save your Medicare. So there!
Wrong again your a lap dog for the Koch Brothers, Vouchers for Medicare to insurance company's Who will eat that money up with Processing Fees Ect. Ect. Ect. and take away some of the coverage, You will be lucky to get 25% of the value of the voucher, Plus insurance company's have to pay their dividends to the stock holders and bonus,s to there executives!!!!!
AMERICAN

Johnson City, TN

#9 Aug 14, 2012
Obama....There goes the whole country along with Israel.
voice n wilderness

Stantonsburg, NC

#10 Aug 14, 2012
AMERICAN wrote:
Obama....There goes the whole country along with Israel.
Do you pride yourself on being ignorant or is it a family trait, You give no information on your knowledge that brought you to that conclusion or who told you that, So I consider that statement as a confession of being Ignorant. LMAO Ignorance is bliss So I guess your a very blissful individual!!!
FACE THE FACTS

Jonesborough, TN

#11 Aug 14, 2012
Shut up stupid.
There's all kinds of proof but you're wondering around in the "wilderness" according to your user name and not looking,listening,reading and living in the "real world".
voter

Johnson City, TN

#12 Aug 14, 2012
not good for America
voice n wilderness

Stantonsburg, NC

#13 Aug 14, 2012
FACE THE FACTS wrote:
Shut up stupid.
There's all kinds of proof but you're wondering around in the "wilderness" according to your user name and not looking,listening,reading and living in the "real world".
Not just wondering around in the wilderness, Surveying the land scape collecting info on the terrain, Getting the reaction and info from the heads of the wild tribes of this wild land and informing them of the Evil that is lurking because of their lack of knowledge of what is going on with some of the the more hostile tribes in this great nation like the Tea party Republican party, Democratic party. While you set on your fat rump in front of your TV watching talking Heads with forked tongues, Tea party is just the extreme arm of the republican party not really a party at all they meaning the tea party is just an arm of the elite super rich like the Koch brothers that have convinced a bunch baboons how to talk, And they also found some talking monkeys to give them a hand, By giving them a few bananas to eat and perform for them. LMFAO
voice n wilderness

Stantonsburg, NC

#14 Aug 14, 2012
FACE THE FACTS wrote:
Shut up stupid.
There's all kinds of proof but you're wondering around in the "wilderness" according to your user name and not looking,listening,reading and living in the "real world".
You are a true example of a talking monkey so why don't you just dance for us a little bit, Talking dancing Monkey, Like that. LMFAO
Tea Party

Johnson City, TN

#15 Aug 14, 2012
voice n wilderness wrote:
<quoted text> You are a true example of a talking monkey so why don't you just dance for us a little bit, Talking dancing Monkey, Like that. LMFAO
Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals

Here is the complete list from Alinsky.

* RULE 1:“Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people.“Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.(These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
* RULE 2:“Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.(Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
* RULE 3:“Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.(This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
* RULE 4:“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.(This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
* RULE 5:“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.(Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
* RULE 6:“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.(Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)
* RULE 7:“A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.(Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
* RULE 8:“Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.(Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
Tea Party

Johnson City, TN

#16 Aug 14, 2012
* RULE 9:“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.(Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
* RULE 10:“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.(Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
* RULE 11:“The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.(Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)

* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.(This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

You seem to be stuck on 12 but it's okay, doesn't matter which one you use, we are on to you. And we surround you.

PS - The Tea Party is a grassroots group, it isn't part of the Republican party. Members include some Republicans, Liberals, Democrats, Constitutionalists, Independents - all have a core of shared beliefs, values and principles.
Tea Party

Johnson City, TN

#17 Aug 14, 2012
*Correction: I meant to type Libertarians, not Liberals.
voice n wilderness

Stantonsburg, NC

#18 Aug 14, 2012
My My bin waiting for one of the big dogs to stick their head up, What took you so long, Here we go, One- you are not A so called grass roots organisation, you are one of many spider web organisations that was created by the Koch brothers, Two- This so called grass roots organisation was created to block any regulations supporting Labor and wages, 3- to block regulations on air and water quality, 4- to lower taxes on the Koch brothers and other super billionaire elitist 5- to help Koch brothers to take control of American energy, Here is the rest of the story on who founded And I don't mean the amounts of Money poured into tea party-like groups such as one David Koch helped to found: Americans for Prosperity Foundation, which has 25 states’ chapters reporting about how they have organised to push Obama administration policies back. David and Charles… along with what some call their outpouring of money so much of which is ‘heavily weighted giving’ to protect their own business interests: oil, lumber, formaldehyde, This is your tea party, Does Enron Ring a bell, and Oil Price energy price Manipulation, Koch brothers being Republican tribe. Conservative clan
here is were the money is going
But, they outspent Exxon Mobil from 2005-2008, giving huge amounts of money to organisations fighting climate change legislation, for instance. They’ve funded a spider network of many foundations, think tanks,(Charles is one of the founders of Cato Institute) and political front groups that continue to target many Obama Administration policies: health-care reform, EPA rulings, immigration, economic-stimulus, Federal finance legislation.This funding via billions of dollars over time, is noted in an August 2010 essay in The New Yorker magazine:“in political circles, their ideological network is known as the Kochtopus”. The family name is actually pronounced “coke” and thus no pun intended. A study released in 2010 by the University of Massachusetts at Amherst’s Political Economy Research Institute named Koch Industries one of the top ten air polluters in the United States. Charles Lewis, founder of the Center for Public Integrity, said,“The Kochs are on a whole different level. There’s no one else who has spent this much money. The sheer dimension of it is what sets them apart. They have a pattern of lawbreaking, political manipulation, and obfuscation. I’ve never seen anything like it. They are the Standard Oil of our times.” The Tea Party is part of their conglomerate of supporters!!!!
Tea Party

Johnson City, TN

#19 Aug 14, 2012
The Tea Party is a grassroots organization made up of ordinary people. Nobody charters buses to bus members into rallys, everyone comes on their own dime.

Does Obama think all rich people are evil or only the ones who don't support his campaign?
voice n wilderness

Stantonsburg, NC

#20 Aug 14, 2012
Tea Party wrote:
The Tea Party is a grassroots organization made up of ordinary people. Nobody charters buses to bus members into rallys, everyone comes on their own dime.
Does Obama think all rich people are evil or only the ones who don't support his campaign?
Hell I don't know you need to ask him, Me I am independent conservative American I do not bend to my knees for any party and I will not back down, But I know what you are up to, who you really are and who you really are working for and I have been to Washington DC, I believe in an independent America and the Tea party is not what I consider my cup of Tea, Besides I like coffee, No I don't think a lot of us are evil but I have met a lot of ignorant self centred ones who do not mind stealing the feathers from other peoples nest to feather theirs, And the main one that contributes all that money to your party is, they have no ethics in doing so. They are sacking this country worse then the liberals at lest the liberals are trying to give back in their screwed up mind, But the ones that support the tea Party are not trying to give any thing back to the people and my country, You are controlled by big money and greed a lap dog for the Koch brothers!!!

Since: Oct 11

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#21 Aug 14, 2012
Tea Party wrote:
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WRONG!! He is going to save your Medicare. So there!
I disagree. He wants to slowly, but not too slowly do away with it all together & take the surplus (what's left of it) & invest in in the stock market to shore up some failing Big Corporations. Their stock is low, the Rich will buy it all up, the Social security Trust fund money will cause the stock to go sky high, the Rich will sell all of their stock & make a fortune, then the Stock will plummet...the Wealthy will be outrageously Wealthier, but the Social Security Trust Fund Money will be all gone & that'll be the end of Social Security...and the Government won't have to pay back what it stole & pick up all those I.O.U's!

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