Romney-Ryan Debate - Frankfort, KY

Discuss the national Romney-Ryan debate in Frankfort, KY.

Are you happy that Romney picked Paul Ryan as his VP?

Frankfort is happy with the Ryan pick.
Yes
 
20
Don't care
 
9
No
 
6

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idgaf

Tewksbury, MA

#299 Oct 9, 2012
Man, if you had to give an elevator speach, that building better be 1000000 miles long. That was almost as long as the obamacare bill.
Blondie

United States

#301 Oct 9, 2012
Are You Kidding wrote:
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His posts are still there sir! I would not have a clue how to delete somone's posts!!!!!
Haha are you kidding really??? You post on here like its the bible you get on other sites and you know it all! Sure you reported him cause you can't handle it when others call you out hell you can't recall 1 good thing you have done for others Nazi is your new name thanks for that name it fits her perfectly!!!!!
Reality

Frankfort, KY

#302 Oct 9, 2012
He is a family man that has good values!

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#303 Oct 10, 2012
For those who want to know the truth..........

There are two Affordable Care Acts. There's the legislation passed by Congress in 2009, and then there's the mythical Affordable Care Act the "government takeover" condemned and demagogued by many misinformed conservatives. The former is quite popular, the latter is a conspiracy theory.

Recent polls find that Americans are split down the middle regarding Obamacare, with 41 percent approving of the law, and 40 percent saying they don't like it. But when asked about specific provisions in the legislation, the average result is a 63% approval rate. In other words, once people know the particulars about Obamacare, they like it.

Things you may not know about the Affordable Care Act.

People making up to four times the federal poverty line will be eligible for subsidies. In 2012, that would mean a family of four making up to $92,200 would see some cash.

The richest Americans will pay more taxes.
A 3.8% surcharge on investment income, dividends and captial gains will kick in come January for everyone with an adjusted gross income of $200,000 ($250,000 joint filers) to help fund the ACA.

For the past 18 months or so, insurers have been required to spend 85 percent of the premiums they collect on healthcare (80 percent for individual and small-group plans). If they spend less than that, they have to send their customers a rebate to cover the difference.

Many people are now aware of the regulation requiring insurers to cover people with pre-existing conditions. It's one of the most popular parts of the whole package. But fewer know that, beginning in 2014, insurers won't be able to charge women higher premiums than men.

Also coming in 2014 is a ban on insurers placing annual limits on healthcare.

Community health centers (CHCs) now serve the primary care needs of about 20 million Americans, and they have a proven track record. But the system is strained and underfunded. The expansion of Medicaid will help alleviate some of the pressure, and the healthcare law also allocates $11 billion over a five-year period to build new CHCs and upgrade existing infrastructure. Most of the dollars will end up in poorer communities.

A lot of underserved people live in rural America, and the law also provides money to train and place 16,000 primary caregivers in rural communities over a five-year period.

Starting in 2014, in order for insurers to sell coverage through state-based exchanges, a place where a lot of the newly insured will likely end up, they will be required to cover a package of "essential benefits," including maternity care, mental healthcare, substance abuse treatment, pediatric care, ambulance rides and hospitalization.
Well

United States

#304 Oct 10, 2012
Reality wrote:
He is a family man that has good values!
so before the election he didn't believe in abortion , yet no he says hes for it?? Like others have said, he says what each state wants to hear just to get votes! Family man not by a long shot! Hypocrite is what I'm feeling for him!
Iphelia Payne

UK

#305 Oct 10, 2012
Romney made his millions putting people out of work by shutting down companies and outsourcing American jobs overseas. The man is an opportunistic bottom feeder. An atheist has a better grasp of ethics and values than than he does.
Are You Kidding

Frankfort, KY

#306 Oct 10, 2012
Iphelia Payne wrote:
Romney made his millions putting people out of work by shutting down companies and outsourcing American jobs overseas. The man is an opportunistic bottom feeder. An atheist has a better grasp of ethics and values than than he does.


Untrue! You need to do some better research!
Wow

Kendall, MI

#308 Oct 11, 2012
I THINK HE NOT WORTH OF CRAP..TAKE FROM THE POOR PEOPLE AND GIVE TO THE RICH..THATS WHAT KINDA PERSON HE IS..WHERE ROBIN HOOD AT WHEN U NEED HIM..I WILL VOTE FOR OBMA EANY DAY..THIS COUNTRY WILL NEVER BE PERFECT SO THEY NEED TO STOP TRYING. TO MAKE IT THAT WAY..BUT WE DONT NEED TO BE IN SOME OTHER COUNTRY TRYING TO MAKE IT RIGHT. WHAT ABOUT OUR COUNTRY..LET THERE LEADER HANDLE IT..THE RICH PEOPLE HAVE WHAT THEY HAVE..BUT LET THE MIDDLE CLASS HAVE WHAT THEY DESERVE ....
Clearly

Frankfort, KY

#310 Oct 11, 2012
Are You Kidding wrote:
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Untrue! You need to do some better research!
So, show us your research that proves this is wrong. Waiting... <crickets> Kentucky will always be poor, unhealthy and disadvantaged as long as it keeps voting Republican. Kentucky is subsidized by the Democratic (blue) states at a rate of $1.51 to every $1 we pay in federal taxes. So, if you're happy being dependent on the blue states that are so much better off than Kentucky because they aren't red states, keep voting Republican. If you want Kentucky to stand on its own and create sustainable economies and raise its education level to keep those good jobs coming here, you better see the reality of the situation and vote Democratic. That's what all the wealthy, successful, healthy states do. It's not a coincidence. Stupid is as stupid votes.
Are You Kidding

Frankfort, KY

#311 Oct 11, 2012
Clearly wrote:
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So, show us your research that proves this is wrong. Waiting... <crickets> Kentucky will always be poor, unhealthy and disadvantaged as long as it keeps voting Republican. Kentucky is subsidized by the Democratic (blue) states at a rate of $1.51 to every $1 we pay in federal taxes. So, if you're happy being dependent on the blue states that are so much better off than Kentucky because they aren't red states, keep voting Republican. If you want Kentucky to stand on its own and create sustainable economies and raise its education level to keep those good jobs coming here, you better see the reality of the situation and vote Democratic. That's what all the wealthy, successful, healthy states do. It's not a coincidence. Stupid is as stupid votes.
Shows you live in Kentucky also. As you know, we have a Democratic Governor and Ky. use to vote almost exclusively democrat, but as they have failed us, we changed to republican.

I can assure you that most Kentuckians aren't a bunch of uneducated hillbilly hicks!
the truth

Frankfort, KY

#312 Oct 11, 2012
Paul Ryan will be perfect as VP
Are You Kidding

Frankfort, KY

#313 Oct 11, 2012
the truth wrote:
Paul Ryan will be perfect as VP
I agree!!!
Louellen

Denver, CO

#314 Oct 12, 2012
The school master and the school boy. The difference between Biden's experience and Ryan's inexperience was glaringly apparent during last night's vice presidential debate. Nevertheless, I feel generous today. I'll give Ryan a C- for having the guts to show up for that paddling.
Are You Kidding

Frankfort, KY

#315 Oct 12, 2012
Louellen wrote:
The school master and the school boy. The difference between Biden's experience and Ryan's inexperience was glaringly apparent during last night's vice presidential debate. Nevertheless, I feel generous today. I'll give Ryan a C- for having the guts to show up for that paddling.
Biden just came across as a rude bully.
GingerL

UK

#316 Oct 12, 2012
Are You Kidding wrote:
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Biden just came across as a rude bully.
That's funny. That's what Democrats said about Romney. Now that the shoe in on the other foot, Republicans are whining about the same thing! LOL

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#317 Oct 12, 2012
Are You Kidding wrote:
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Biden just came across as a rude bully.
Only to those who were rooting for Ryan to win. To me he seemed more sincere, more knowledgeable, and less practiced and rehearsed, he seemed like a genuine person having an argument in which he thinks the opposite side is using half-truths, mistatements, and obfuscations to avoid answering direct questions. He seemed amused at the ridiculous antics of a rehearsed candidate trying to stick to a predetermined set of talking points regardless of the pointed questions he was asked.

Ryan avoidances...

BIDEN to RYAN: Can you guarantee that no person under 250,000 will see a reduction to their mortgage deduction?

RYAN: Lots of words but no guarantee and no answer.

MODERATOR to RYAN: Does your tax plan have any details or are you still figuring those out?

RYAN: Lots of words about frameworks, Ronald Reagan, Tip O'Neil, bipartisan efforts, etc...No real answer.

The correct answer was. No! We don't have details, just talking points...

BIDEN to RYAN: What would you do differently in Syria?

RYAN: Lots of words about the UN, Russia, and allies. Did not answer the direct question.

I know you like Ryan. I know you are team Romney but are you seriously blind to the fact that neither he nor Romney EVER actually answer any question with any level of details about their plans? Are you totally ignoring the fact that the Romney campaign has moved to a much more centrist position in recent weeks after months of far right conservative stances?

I mean I get that it is the nature of politicians to say whatever will get them elected but are there literally no limits left? Do we no longer care at all whether a politiician changes his stances with every new days dawning? Say what you will about Obama, he at elast is ideologically consistent. He rarely waivers from his core fundamental beliefs about the role that government can and should play. He is always on the side that says government can and should provide the basic frameworks that allow liberty to prosper and thrive. It is called integrity and it is the one thing that Mitt Romney lacks as a political leader. He will only stick to a viewpoint for as long as it is politically expedient to do so. How can you trust a man with the highest office in this nation when you have NO IDEA what his plans are because he won't tell them to you!
Are You Kidding

Frankfort, KY

#319 Oct 12, 2012
The Mindless American wrote:
<quoted text>Only to those who were rooting for Ryan to win. To me he seemed more sincere, more knowledgeable, and less practiced and rehearsed, he seemed like a genuine person having an argument in which he thinks the opposite side is using half-truths, mistatements, and obfuscations to avoid answering direct questions. He seemed amused at the ridiculous antics of a rehearsed candidate trying to stick to a predetermined set of talking points regardless of the pointed questions he was asked.
Ryan avoidances...
BIDEN to RYAN: Can you guarantee that no person under 250,000 will see a reduction to their mortgage deduction?
RYAN: Lots of words but no guarantee and no answer.
MODERATOR to RYAN: Does your tax plan have any details or are you still figuring those out?
RYAN: Lots of words about frameworks, Ronald Reagan, Tip O'Neil, bipartisan efforts, etc...No real answer.
The correct answer was. No! We don't have details, just talking points...
BIDEN to RYAN: What would you do differently in Syria?
RYAN: Lots of words about the UN, Russia, and allies. Did not answer the direct question.
I know you like Ryan. I know you are team Romney but are you seriously blind to the fact that neither he nor Romney EVER actually answer any question with any level of details about their plans? Are you totally ignoring the fact that the Romney campaign has moved to a much more centrist position in recent weeks after months of far right conservative stances?
I mean I get that it is the nature of politicians to say whatever will get them elected but are there literally no limits left? Do we no longer care at all whether a politiician changes his stances with every new days dawning? Say what you will about Obama, he at elast is ideologically consistent. He rarely waivers from his core fundamental beliefs about the role that government can and should play. He is always on the side that says government can and should provide the basic frameworks that allow liberty to prosper and thrive. It is called integrity and it is the one thing that Mitt Romney lacks as a political leader. He will only stick to a viewpoint for as long as it is politically expedient to do so. How can you trust a man with the highest office in this nation when you have NO IDEA what his plans are because he won't tell them to you!
Many commentators from the left also commented on Biden being rude and laughing at very inappropriate times.

You are correct. I am for Romney/Ryan so I probably saw the very best of Ryan. I would also say the same is true of you. You are for Obama/Biden so you saw the very best of Biden. I will not argue that point at all.

I also agree that Biden made some very good points, but I think Ryan did also. I think Ryan stayed very composed considering the behavior of Biden and that it was his first national debate. I was also satisfied with the majority of Ryan's comments and I think Biden out and out lied about Libya.

I will also agree with you that Romney/Ryan have moved to a more centrist position and I also clearly know it is to get more votes. Obama has made much more devious moves to obtain more votes. Attempting to hide the terrorists attack in Libya is one. I firmly believe, based on the recent hearing, that he tried to cover up that this was a terrorist attack as he has often indicated terrorists were under control. He did not want this event to hurt his vote. His asking Lockheed/Martin and other federal contractors to break the law by not notifying their employees of possible layoffs is another one. This would have hurt him, especially in Virginia.

minimitt

Tewksbury, MA

#320 Oct 12, 2012
Lybia would happen to romney or obama or anyone else. You also have to understand that for national security reasons they will not tell you the truth. This is not the president's choice. The country is more important than any one man or group.
Well

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#321 Oct 12, 2012
Yet democrats are winning at the poles , so you can post all your pointless comments"are you kidding" because in the end they will be paddled!!! Lmao! And as far as Biden laughing he couldn't help himself Ryan is a joke!!!
Why2

United States

#322 Oct 12, 2012
Are you kidding: you've been stuck on Libya and federal contractors lying for a while now, obviously that's the only ammo you got compare to liberals who have a 100 different lies.

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