Romney-Ryan Debate - Frankfort, KY

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Are you happy that Romney picked Paul Ryan as his VP?

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Aug 13, 2012
 
He is a very smart, family man with a tremendouse work ethic. He wants to improve this country.
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Aug 13, 2012
 
Very happy!
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Aug 13, 2012
 
One is as good as the other.
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Aug 13, 2012
 
He also thinks social security is a ponzi scheme, and also wants to end Medicare. And Romney pays zero in taxes as a multi millionaire. Good luck.
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#5
Aug 14, 2012
 
Not like Mitt Romney wasn't bad enough for the rich as is, he picks the worst possible running mate. We are screwed if they get elected.
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Aug 14, 2012
 
SayWhat wrote:
He is a very smart, family man with a tremendouse work ethic. He wants to improve this country.
If you're white, already well-off, and not elderly you mean?
He wants to eliminate Medicaid and privatize social security. He (Ryan) voted for almost ALL of the things that got us into this mess to begin with....something to think about, Boomers.
I'm in my early 30's so I've already conceded that I likely won't get social security and such. Yet, people wonder why folks in my generation have a big case of the "don't give a shits". Going to have to work until I die probably. If Kentucky doesn't pass an assisted suicide law by then, I'm moving to Oregon.
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Aug 14, 2012
 
Haha wrote:
He also thinks social security is a ponzi scheme, and also wants to end Medicare. And Romney pays zero in taxes as a multi millionaire. Good luck.
He does not want to end Medicare!!! This is a total misconception. Democrats and Republicans agree that Medicare will bankrupt within 12 years if nothing is done to change it. The Democrats and the Obama administration have made no proposal for changes. Something must be done and at least the Republicans have a plan.

You are obviously listening to the very biased news media! All we hear about is speculations about what Romney/Ryan will do. There is no coverage about what Obama has done which is put this country in more debt than it has ever been in, highest unemployment rate in decades, and largest increase in government assistance ever.
SayWhat

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Aug 14, 2012
 
Huh wrote:
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If you're white, already well-off, and not elderly you mean?
He wants to eliminate Medicaid and privatize social security. He (Ryan) voted for almost ALL of the things that got us into this mess to begin with....something to think about, Boomers.
I'm in my early 30's so I've already conceded that I likely won't get social security and such. Yet, people wonder why folks in my generation have a big case of the "don't give a shits". Going to have to work until I die probably. If Kentucky doesn't pass an assisted suicide law by then, I'm moving to Oregon.
He does not want to eliminate social security. Obama's policies and inaction is what has gotten us into the mess we are in. Obama made all kinds of promises in 2008 and actually followed through on most of them. Problem is they DIDN'T WORK!!!! His philosophy of more government is not the answer! It just continues to give more welfare, food stamps, medicaid, etc. that we as tax payers must shoulder.

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Aug 14, 2012
 
SayWhat wrote:
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He does not want to eliminate social security. Obama's policies and inaction is what has gotten us into the mess we are in. Obama made all kinds of promises in 2008 and actually followed through on most of them. Problem is they DIDN'T WORK!!!! His philosophy of more government is not the answer! It just continues to give more welfare, food stamps, medicaid, etc. that we as tax payers must shoulder.
Do me a favor. Please describe the what the state of this nation would have been for the last four years without the programs you are so quick to deride. You may want to look at images from the Depression Era. While the policies enacted during the administration may not have been the silver bullet you were looking for they did, in fact, manage to prevent the total collapse of the economy. Without those programs we would not have been treading water for the last few years. We would have drowned. I know it is the "conservative" view that all those "lazy" people on assistance are just leaching off the system but with too few jobs to go around for too many people exactly what do you think would happen without all those "lazy people" programs.
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Aug 14, 2012
 
Just what we need to elect: A Billionaire and a fiscally conservative 42 year old from a less populated state......just saying! Obama has my vote
SayWhat

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Aug 14, 2012
 
voter wrote:
Just what we need to elect: A Billionaire and a fiscally conservative 42 year old from a less populated state......just saying! Obama has my vote
That is fine. Everyone has to make their own choices.
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Aug 14, 2012
 
The Mindless American wrote:
<quoted text>Do me a favor. Please describe the what the state of this nation would have been for the last four years without the programs you are so quick to deride. You may want to look at images from the Depression Era. While the policies enacted during the administration may not have been the silver bullet you were looking for they did, in fact, manage to prevent the total collapse of the economy. Without those programs we would not have been treading water for the last few years. We would have drowned. I know it is the "conservative" view that all those "lazy" people on assistance are just leaching off the system but with too few jobs to go around for too many people exactly what do you think would happen without all those "lazy people" programs.
I understand your view. I have no problem with those in need of government benefits receiving them. My problem relates to those who receive the benefits who shouldn't. I worked in government for years and saw so much abuse. It becomes a way of life for many families which is passed on to their children, etc., etc.

I think with the right policies, we would not have been in this situation and the economy would have improved and the unemployment rate would have decreased. More government and deeper debt isn't the resolution.

Our country is in a terrible situation and I am not sure if anyone can fix it, but I do know that Obama has tried and was not successful. I have not heard him say anything he plans to do differently.

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Aug 14, 2012
 
SayWhat wrote:
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I understand your view. I have no problem with those in need of government benefits receiving them. My problem relates to those who receive the benefits who shouldn't. I worked in government for years and saw so much abuse. It becomes a way of life for many families which is passed on to their children, etc., etc.
I think with the right policies, we would not have been in this situation and the economy would have improved and the unemployment rate would have decreased. More government and deeper debt isn't the resolution.
Our country is in a terrible situation and I am not sure if anyone can fix it, but I do know that Obama has tried and was not successful. I have not heard him say anything he plans to do differently.
I think placing the burden on a single person, President or not, is contrary to logic. The simple fact of the matter is that neither the left nor the right has a lock on what it would take to fix our economy. You are right about abuses, I don't deny that, but the policies of the right are not a scalpel designed to excise the cancer from the system. The policy of the right is to punish everyone for the actions of a small minority. The left on the other hand seems content to just cover their eyes to the problems and treat them like they are unfixable. The partisan warfare in our Senate and House of Representatives means that finding real solutions is out of the question in any arena at all.

The right has been determined since day one to make sure that Obama's policies fail, even at the cost of the American people. That is my main beef with the right at this moment in time. They didn't accept the fact that in 208 the people gave a referendum on the performance of the conservatives and decide to play ball with the choice the people made. They didn't even take their balls and go home. No! Their choice was to do everything in their power to insure that this President failed and was a "one term President". Thanks Mitch! They launched a concerted effort to undermine the team as a whole out of spite. The problem is that the team they are undermining is their own constituents and the citizens of this country.

They are placing their party above the people to the point of lunacy. They have played chicken with the economy and we are the ones losing. I know the left has employed similar tactics in the past but never with the ferocity and zeal that this incarnation of the GOP has. They are reckless and they are gambling with all our futures in order to maintain their power base.

I don't know the ultimate solution but at some point or another our political system has to return to some measure of sane and civil discourse or our political system will fall. These wide swings of the pendulum from left to right combined with the loss of a cooperative middle will eventually topple the system.

We the people need to demand more from our government not be commanded by them. We the people need to recognize all of our futures are dependent on a functional political system. We the people need to be less swayed by political advertisements and more by actions. We the people need to be the ones making better decisions instead of allowing nameless faceless entities within the parties make them for us.

If you had a choice would this election even be between Obama and Romney? Why don't we have that choice? Why does everyone always feel like it is voting between the lesser of two evils? Why don't we elect leaders who inspire us rather than the one that repulses us the least? Think about that.

We have given the parties way too much control and we need to find ways to take it back from them.
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Aug 14, 2012
 
The Mindless American wrote:
<quoted text>I think placing the burden on a single person, President or not, is contrary to logic. The simple fact of the matter is that neither the left nor the right has a lock on what it would take to fix our economy. You are right about abuses, I don't deny that, but the policies of the right are not a scalpel designed to excise the cancer from the system. The policy of the right is to punish everyone for the actions of a small minority. The left on the other hand seems content to just cover their eyes to the problems and treat them like they are unfixable. The partisan warfare in our Senate and House of Representatives means that finding real solutions is out of the question in any arena at all.
The right has been determined since day one to make sure that Obama's policies fail, even at the cost of the American people. That is my main beef with the right at this moment in time. They didn't accept the fact that in 208 the people gave a referendum on the performance of the conservatives and decide to play ball with the choice the people made. They didn't even take their balls and go home. No! Their choice was to do everything in their power to insure that this President failed and was a "one term President". Thanks Mitch! They launched a concerted effort to undermine the team as a whole out of spite. The problem is that the team they are undermining is their own constituents and the citizens of this country.
They are placing their party above the people to the point of lunacy. They have played chicken with the economy and we are the ones losing. I know the left has employed similar tactics in the past but never with the ferocity and zeal that this incarnation of the GOP has. They are reckless and they are gambling with all our futures in order to maintain their power base.
I don't know the ultimate solution but at some point or another our political system has to return to some measure of sane and civil discourse or our political system will fall. These wide swings of the pendulum from left to right combined with the loss of a cooperative middle will eventually topple the system.
We the people need to demand more from our government not be commanded by them. We the people need to recognize all of our futures are dependent on a functional political system. We the people need to be less swayed by political advertisements and more by actions. We the people need to be the ones making better decisions instead of allowing nameless faceless entities within the parties make them for us.
If you had a choice would this election even be between Obama and Romney? Why don't we have that choice? Why does everyone always feel like it is voting between the lesser of two evils? Why don't we elect leaders who inspire us rather than the one that repulses us the least? Think about that.
We have given the parties way too much control and we need to find ways to take it back from them.
Odd how Eastern KY has Rebulican US Reps and most all are on some form of US aid (welfare, disablility, etc). The powerful want these type of constituents so they will keep voting for them. So govt aid is NOT limited to the Democratic party.

I agree that most need to get off the govt aid and get a life. Why should they if a check is mailed every month. Keep voting for the ones that support these programs in full and the deadbeats will continue to rely on the govt for income. Where are all the fraud investigators?
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Aug 14, 2012
 
The Mindless American wrote:
<quoted text>I think placing the burden on a single person, President or not, is contrary to logic. The simple fact of the matter is that neither the left nor the right has a lock on what it would take to fix our economy. You are right about abuses, I don't deny that, but the policies of the right are not a scalpel designed to excise the cancer from the system. The policy of the right is to punish everyone for the actions of a small minority. The left on the other hand seems content to just cover their eyes to the problems and treat them like they are unfixable. The partisan warfare in our Senate and House of Representatives means that finding real solutions is out of the question in any arena at all.
The right has been determined since day one to make sure that Obama's policies fail, even at the cost of the American people. That is my main beef with the right at this moment in time. They didn't accept the fact that in 208 the people gave a referendum on the performance of the conservatives and decide to play ball with the choice the people made. They didn't even take their balls and go home. No! Their choice was to do everything in their power to insure that this President failed and was a "one term President". Thanks Mitch! They launched a concerted effort to undermine the team as a whole out of spite. The problem is that the team they are undermining is their own constituents and the citizens of this country.
They are placing their party above the people to the point of lunacy. They have played chicken with the economy and we are the ones losing. I know the left has employed similar tactics in the past but never with the ferocity and zeal that this incarnation of the GOP has. They are reckless and they are gambling with all our futures in order to maintain their power base.
I don't know the ultimate solution but at some point or another our political system has to return to some measure of sane and civil discourse or our political system will fall. These wide swings of the pendulum from left to right combined with the loss of a cooperative middle will eventually topple the system.
We the people need to demand more from our government not be commanded by them. We the people need to recognize all of our futures are dependent on a functional political system. We the people need to be less swayed by political advertisements and more by actions. We the people need to be the ones making better decisions instead of allowing nameless faceless entities within the parties make them for us.
If you had a choice would this election even be between Obama and Romney? Why don't we have that choice? Why does everyone always feel like it is voting between the lesser of two evils? Why don't we elect leaders who inspire us rather than the one that repulses us the least? Think about that.
We have given the parties way too much control and we need to find ways to take it back from them.
You make a lot of really good points and I agree with you on most of them. I'm not sure what the answer is but I hate to see this wonderful country go down the tubes. I just saw on TV that we are almost at 16 trillion in debt which is the most EVER!!!!! This is so scary!
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Aug 14, 2012
 
voter wrote:
<quoted text>Odd how Eastern KY has Rebulican US Reps and most all are on some form of US aid (welfare, disablility, etc). The powerful want these type of constituents so they will keep voting for them. So govt aid is NOT limited to the Democratic party.
I agree that most need to get off the govt aid and get a life. Why should they if a check is mailed every month. Keep voting for the ones that support these programs in full and the deadbeats will continue to rely on the govt for income. Where are all the fraud investigators?
The number of fraud investigators is extremely low. They can't even put a dent in it. The abusers also cover for each other. Mom has children in her home and receives food stamps. Her eighteen year old daughter lives in the home and has a child. Eighteen year old can receive almost the same amount of food stamps as Mom as long as they keep everything separate in the refrigerator. Yeah right!!!!!

With current welfare, you can only receive for 5 years. This, by the way, is being changed by Obama. He is allowing each State to decide if work can be replaced by other considerations. This will be so abused! Anyway, Mom's 5 years are up and now Mom's sister comes in and says I have children. She can now receive for 5 years even though children are actually still at home with Mom. Mom's sister just gives her the check.
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#17
Aug 14, 2012
 
It shows he agrees with Ryan in revamping social security and putting more hurt on Seniors.We Seniors do not need this ticket.What we need is both parties to work together for the benefit of all.
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#18
Aug 14, 2012
 
Electing with the two party system is suicide! Both Barack Obama's contributers and Mitt Romney's contributors are Goldman Sachs and others as well! Electing Gary Johnson as president is worth the risk!
Gary Johnson 2012

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#19
Aug 15, 2012
 
Recall The TEA Party Traitor Rand Paul for selling out to the D.C. Bosses by endorsing Mitt Romney! Get a libertarian candidate to defeat him in 2012! Abolish the two party system!
SayWhat

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Aug 16, 2012
 
Farm boy wrote:
It shows he agrees with Ryan in revamping social security and putting more hurt on Seniors.We Seniors do not need this ticket.What we need is both parties to work together for the benefit of all.
Farm boy, you are right! We do need both parties working together for the benefit of all. These are definitely the worst campaigns in decades. I wish we had an answer.

One thing that greatly concerns me is that Obama took $716 billion from Medicare to help pay for Obamacare and the public was not made aware of this. I believe people would have felt differently if they had known. This $716 billion was to pay for a third of Obamacare based on the initial cost estimates. The cost of Obamacare has now tripled. Does that mean more money will be needed from Medicare and if not, will the taxpayers have to cover this additional costs?

We should all be very concerned!!

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