Romney-Ryan Debate - Chambersburg, PA

Discuss the national Romney-Ryan debate in Chambersburg, PA.

Are you happy that Romney picked Paul Ryan as his VP?

Chambersburg is happy with the Ryan pick.
Yes
 
28
Don't care
 
4
No
 
1

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Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#386 Oct 4, 2012
Marisa wrote:
That's funny about the focus group on MSNBC. Firstof all I think we all know that MSNBC is not reliable, after all that's where Chris Matthews works...the thrill up his leg Chris. I also saw a focus group of Obama voters. Out of about 30, only 2 will vote for Obama a second time. Romney has the majority of independents. So nice try but your man is done....has been for some time...it's just getting harder for his followers to cover for him.
This is the response of a stupid person. If you'd care to educate yourself, you'd see that the group was all undecided voters, balanced between left-leaning and right-leaning.

See, here's the thing you fail to grasp - although Fox "news" is a 24/7 rightwing propaganda outfit where the "news" is just as biased as the opinion shows - MSNBC has a separate, legitimate, actual news division that is NOT biased.

MSNBC has liberal opinion shows and straight news division.

Fox has conservative opinion shows and a conservatively biased "news" division.

Big difference.

You're used to the built-in bais of your rightwing sources, so you can't comprehend that there's no such thing on the left. It simply does not exist.

“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#387 Oct 4, 2012
Do they still call it MSNBC on TV?(don't have cable)

I know they split with Microsoft awhile back - there is no MSNBC website anymore.
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#388 Oct 4, 2012
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll: October 4, 2012

Two national presidential polls and two statewide presidential polls are out today. In the Gallup presidential tracking poll President Obama leads by 4% over Mitt Romney. Obama was at 49% compared to 45% for Romney. Obama had a 1% decrease in support from the previous poll and Romney had a 1% increase in support from the previous poll. Third party candidates and undecided voters combined were at 6% nationally. The Gallup presidential tracking poll was released yesterday afternoon, Wednesday, October 3, 2012.

Rasmussen Reports presidential tracking poll has President Obama up by 2% over Mitt Romney. Obama was at 49% compared to 47% for Romney. Third party candidates were at 1% while 3% of voters remain undecided. Rasmussen Reports released their presidential tracking poll this morning, Thursday, October 4, 2012.
Marisa

Greencastle, PA

#389 Oct 4, 2012
There you go again! Assuming! I never said it was FOX! You really need to stop acting like a know it all. Because a know it all you are not! You are an Obama follower that is just as clueless as he is.

Now I had a great day and I want to keep it that way....I have had my fill of talking to clueless democrats. I plan on watching the debate again....I love watching Obama showing us who he really is...clueless and lost.
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#390 Oct 4, 2012
Trust - Obama for America TV Ad



Romney at last night's debate: "I'm not in favor of a 5 trillion tax cut. That's not my plan."

Reporter: "The non-partisan Tax Policy Center concluded that Mitt Romney's tax plan would cost 4.8 trillion dollars over ten years."

Voice-over:
"Why won't Romney level with us about his tax plan which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks?

Because according to experts he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class or increase the deficit to pay for it.

If we can't trust him here, how could we ever trust him here?"
Marisa

Greencastle, PA

#391 Oct 4, 2012
One more thing...Rasmussen does his polls in 3 day cycles...so again the poll of Oct 4 that Dan the man presented is before the debate.

Want to bet Dan the man will call stupid and a liar because I just burst his balloon.....again! He can be entertaining at times....when he's not lying that is.
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#392 Oct 4, 2012
Marisa wrote:
There you go again! Assuming! I never said it was FOX! You really need to stop acting like a know it all. Because a know it all you are not! You are an Obama follower that is just as clueless as he is.
Now I had a great day and I want to keep it that way....I have had my fill of talking to clueless democrats. I plan on watching the debate again....I love watching Obama showing us who he really is...clueless and lost.
You never said WHAT was Fox?

All I did was confront your false beliefs about MSBNC by identifying the source of your false beliefs - your "news" sources aren't really news at all so you assume MSNBC is the same way.

I could have used Daily Caller or Washington Examiner or World Net Daily or Breitbart or any of the other pseudo-news sources you wingnuts love to quote here.

But you named a cable news channel so I used Fox to address it.

Calm down killer. You're acting like I caught you in a lie or something. LMAO!
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#393 Oct 4, 2012
Marisa wrote:
There you go again! Assuming! I never said it was FOX! You really need to stop acting like a know it all. Because a know it all you are not! You are an Obama follower that is just as clueless as he is.
Now I had a great day and I want to keep it that way....I have had my fill of talking to clueless democrats. I plan on watching the debate again....I love watching Obama showing us who he really is...clueless and lost.
Oh, I see. You cited a different focus group and assumed I was addressing that part of your post.

I wasn't guessing the source of your focus group. I was just comparing and contrasting Fox and MSNBC.

Your emotional defensiveness makes me think it WAS a Fox group though. I notice you didn't deny it - just denied SAYING it.

You're as transparent as you are dim - meaning TOTALLY. LMAO!
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#394 Oct 4, 2012
Marisa wrote:
One more thing...Rasmussen does his polls in 3 day cycles...so again the poll of Oct 4 that Dan the man presented is before the debate.
Want to bet Dan the man will call stupid and a liar because I just burst his balloon.....again! He can be entertaining at times....when he's not lying that is.
I do not lie. If I did, you could prove it by showing us a lie I told.

But you never have. Not a single time.

Not ever.

But I confront your lies multiple times every day here, don't I? Hell yes I do. LMAO!
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#397 Oct 4, 2012
Marisa wrote:
One more thing...Rasmussen does his polls in 3 day cycles...so again the poll of Oct 4 that Dan the man presented is before the debate.
Want to bet Dan the man will call stupid and a liar because I just burst his balloon.....again! He can be entertaining at times....when he's not lying that is.
BTW - care to show me where I said the poll results I posted were from AFTER last night's debate?

Can you do that?

If not, then you owe me an apology for saying I was lying.
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#398 Oct 4, 2012
Wow - Romney's been at 191 electoral safe or leaning for months at RCP.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/...

Today I see he's at 181.

Anybody who thinks one decent debate performance is going to magically give Romney the 89 electoral votes he needs to win on November 6 is seriously out of touch with reality.

Given the facts on the ground, claims such as these are plainly delusional.
Marisa wrote:
Obama's days are numbered!!!
Marisa wrote:
Dan the man says to enjoy it while it lasts. Okay...I figure I have at least 4 years, but more than likely I'll have 8 years to enjoy Romney.
Patients suffering from psychosis have impaired reality testing; that is, they are unable to distinguish personal subjective experience from the reality of the external world.
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#399 Oct 4, 2012
Obama lost the first debate, but he will still win the election

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Consider the task facing Romney going into Wednesday’s debate:

Nationally, RealClearPolitics’s poll average had him down three points;

Nate Silver’s model had him down four. He had held a lead in a major poll exactly once since the end of August.

The electoral college looked even worse for him: RealClear’s map gave Obama 269 electoral votes safe or leaning to Romney’s 181 (with 88 in toss-up states);

HuffPost Pollster gave Obama a 290-191 lead;

and Nate Silver’s model had Obama winning an average of 319 electoral votes to Romney’s 218, a comfortable margin.

Even Karl Rove had 277 votes safe or leaning to Obama, with another 70 as toss-ups.

“Ah,” you say,“that may be true, but surely the gap is small enough to close? And wouldn’t the first debate be enough to bring this race back to a dead heat?”

In a word, no.

Let’s start with the second question. Incumbent presidents almost always have a poor first debate: George W. Bush lost to John Kerry in 2004, for example, and Walter Mondale beat Ronald Reagan so badly in 1984 that there was a spate of articles asking if the incumbent was too old for the presidency.

Yet never has a challenger’s strong first debate performance closed as large a national polling gap as Romney faced going into last night’s debate.

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How can Romney win this?

Seriously, I want to know how any conservative believes Romney can win the 89 electoral votes he needs to win.

What states is he currently losing that he's going to turn around during the next month?

Anyone?

“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#400 Oct 4, 2012
Did you hear Romney refer to Obama as a "boy?"

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"I know that you and your running mate keep saying that and I know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people, but it's just not the case. Look, I've got five boys. I'm used to people saying something that's not always true, but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping I'll believe it. But that -- that is not the case. All right? I will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income Americans."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57525691/...
Dan the Man

Newville, PA

#401 Oct 4, 2012
A Talking Horse wrote:
Did you hear Romney refer to Obama as a "boy?"
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"I know that you and your running mate keep saying that and I know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people, but it's just not the case. Look, I've got five boys. I'm used to people saying something that's not always true, but just keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping I'll believe it. But that -- that is not the case. All right? I will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income Americans."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57525691/...
Not so much.
Marisa

Chambersburg, PA

#402 Oct 4, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW - care to show me where I said the poll results I posted were from AFTER last night's debate?
Can you do that?
If not, then you owe me an apology for saying I was lying.
I was wrong as usual, reading comprehension never was my strong suit.

Was it unethical of my Psychiatrist husband to marry one of his patients?
Dan the Man

Newville, PA

#403 Oct 4, 2012
First post-debate poll results from Ipsos/Reuters:

Obama 48%
Romney 43%

The numbers pre-debate...

Obama 48%
Romney 39%

So Romney gained and Obama stayed the same.

Let's dig into the numbers a little bit. What happened with Obama's overall favorable/unfavorable numbers?

Pre-debate - 56% favorable/44% unfavorable
Post-debate - 56% favorable/44% unfavorable

No change.

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How about his approval with Democrats?

Pre-debate - 90% favorable/10% unfavorable
Post-debate - 90% favorable/10% unfavorable

No change.

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How about his approval with Republicans?

Pre-debate - 17% favorable/83% unfavorable
Post-debate - 19% favorable/81% unfavorable

Slight improvement. Wow.

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How about his approval with Independents?

Pre-debate - 46% favorable/54% unfavorable
Post-debate - 54% favorable/46% unfavorable

The numbers SWITCHED. A shift of 16 points! That's a pretty big deal.

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Now, how did Romney do?

Republicans
Pre - 85/15
Post - 90/10

Republicans like him more. Big surprise.

.
Democrats
Pre - 17/83
Post - 21/79

He did better with Democrats too. Good for him.

.
Independents
Pre - 44/56
Post - 44/56

No change. No change among independents while Obama had a 16 point shift.

So if the goal of the debate is to shift undecideds into his camp, Obama was wildly successful and Romney laid a turd.

But look on the bright side wingnuts - you all like your guy more now. That's sure to win the election for him, right? LMAO!
Marisa

Greencastle, PA

#404 Oct 5, 2012
I just read that Obama is blaming a dog for his debate failure. The dog ate his homework......so Obama ate the dog!

“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#405 Oct 5, 2012
Marisa wrote:
I just read that Obama is blaming a dog for his debate failure. The dog ate his homework......so Obama ate the dog!
Ohhhhh...Za Zing!!!

Ha, Ha, Ha

Ha

Haaaaaa....

Seriously, don't ever try to become a comedian.
bobby64

United States

#406 Oct 5, 2012
Marisa. When you find that dream poll with your flipper winning the electoral map be sure to post it, pronto. Alright my desperate child. I am rooting for you, ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Dan the Man

Shippensburg, PA

#407 Oct 5, 2012
Marisa wrote:
I just read that Obama is blaming a dog for his debate failure. The dog ate his homework......so Obama ate the dog!
Weak.

I'd tell you not to quit you day job, but everybody already knows that you don't work. LOL!

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