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#82
Oct 18, 2012
 
Elohimsokie wrote:
<quoted text>Every thing I have is paid for.
The 40 billion a month will cause massive inflation , along with China,Russia no longer using the dollar as a reserve currence. Brazil , Japan and India are also stopping.
Elohims, ask yourself one thin--why does everyone buy the U.S. treasuries. Because they now they will get their money back. Now if you want to fixx the ebt--ask yourself another queston--why is it that over 100 billion ollats sits in offshore secret accounts ,owned by U.S. citizens paying no taxes on that money? If tha money was taxes it would e of a great help in paying off our debt. It is estimulated that over 27 trillion dollars go untaxed each year that is sitting in tax shelter havens.And if taed it owuld solve a lot of countries debt problems. Now why do people use tax havens, to not pay their taxes is why. And that is why Romney uses tax havens--to not pay taxes on his earnings.
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Oct 19, 2012
 
pappy wrote:
<quoted text>Elohims, ask yourself one thin--why does everyone buy the U.S. treasuries. Because they now they will get their money back. Now if you want to fixx the ebt--ask yourself another queston--why is it that over 100 billion ollats sits in offshore secret accounts ,owned by U.S. citizens paying no taxes on that money? If tha money was taxes it would e of a great help in paying off our debt. It is estimulated that over 27 trillion dollars go untaxed each year that is sitting in tax shelter havens.And if taed it owuld solve a lot of countries debt problems. Now why do people use tax havens, to not pay their taxes is why. And that is why Romney uses tax havens--to not pay taxes on his earnings.
Obama has assets in the Cayman Islands and probably other places. We don't know what he's worth.
The dems. had controll of both houses for about two years, they could have changed alot of things but they did'nt. I beleive this is a fake two/one party system.
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Oct 19, 2012
 
pappy wrote:
<quoted text>Elohims, ask yourself one thin--why does everyone buy the U.S. treasuries. Because they now they will get their money back.
Pappy, I note that you use the NOW and that is right. If the debt continues to grow and the credit rating continues to drop thos treasuries could become worthless.
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Now if you want to fixx the ebt--ask yourself another queston--why is it that over 100 billion ollats sits in offshore secret accounts ,owned by U.S. citizens paying no taxes on that money? If tha money was taxes it would e of a great help in paying off our debt. It is estimulated that over 27 trillion dollars go untaxed each year that is sitting in tax shelter havens.And if taed it owuld solve a lot of countries debt problems. Now why do people use tax havens, to not pay their taxes is why. And that is why Romney uses tax havens--to not pay taxes on his earnings.
Pappy, I do not believe what you have posted. The secret offshore accounts is a figment of someone's imagination. Provide some documentation on that 27 trillion figure that you gave.
Pappy, this is a copy/paste from the 2012 1040 IRS instructions. Read it for yourself. Prior years have had the same instructions. As you can see from these instructions, you are required to pay taxes on foreign accounts. I'm sure there are people that evade paying taxes but they are breaking the law and I'm sure the penalty will be high if they are caught.
"Foreign-Source Income
You must report unearned income, such as interest, dividends, and pensions, from sources outside the United States unless exempt by
law or a tax treaty. You must also report earned income, such as
wages and tips, from sources outside the United States.
If you worked abroad, you may be able to exclude part or all of your foreign earned income if you file Form 1040. For details, see
Pub. 54 and Form 2555 or 2555-EZ.
Foreign retirement plans. If you were a beneficiary of a foreign retirement plan, you may have to report the undistributed earned in your plan. However, if you were the beneficiary of a Canadian registered retirement plan, see Form 8891 to find out if you can elect to defer tax on the undistributed income. If you elect. to defer tax, you must file Form 1040 Report distributions from foreign pension plans on lines 12a and 12b.
Foreign accounts and trusts. You must complete Part III of Schedule B if you:
&#61472;Had a foreign account, or
&#61472;Received a distribution from, or were a grantor of, or a transferor to, a foreign trust.
Note. If you had foreign financial assets in 2011, you may have to file new Form 8938. Check www.irs.gov/form8938 for details. If iyou must file Form 8938 you cannot file Form 1040A. You must file Form 1040. your Form(s) W-2."
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Oct 19, 2012
 
pappy wrote:
<quoted text>Elohims, ask yourself one thin--why does everyone buy the U.S. treasuries. Because they now they will get their money back. Now if you want to fixx the ebt--ask yourself another queston--why is it that over 100 billion ollats sits in offshore secret accounts ,owned by U.S. citizens paying no taxes on that money? If tha money was taxes it would e of a great help in paying off our debt. It is estimulated that over 27 trillion dollars go untaxed each year that is sitting in tax shelter havens.And if taed it owuld solve a lot of countries debt problems. Now why do people use tax havens, to not pay their taxes is why. And that is why Romney uses tax havens--to not pay taxes on his earnings.
Alot of countries have stop buying t-bonds and such, the only collateral we have is our land.
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Nov 2, 2012
 
That is the ich Iwas speaking of Elohoms, they are the ones that use tax havens for avoiding taxes--leaving you and I to make up the difference in what they do not pay. AS for bonds and securities --cash is the only way to go and post hole banking. Hop you have a good post hole digger.
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Nov 3, 2012
 
pappy wrote:
That is the ich Iwas speaking of Elohoms, they are the ones that use tax havens for avoiding taxes--leaving you and I to make up the difference in what they do not pay. AS for bonds and securities --cash is the only way to go and post hole banking. Hop you have a good post hole digger.
If your cash dollars are so seriously devalued they are not worth much are they? Flooding the economy with cash did just exactly that devalue the money you have so we all took a hit but Obama touted his so-called stimulus dollars. All you have to do is go to the grocery store or pay a utility bill buy fuel for your car pay a insurance preminum. Everything cost more.

Quantative Easing....term for devaluing you dollar.
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#88
Nov 3, 2012
 
What do you think happended to the dollar while Bush was in office? the dollar has been devalued time after time--one of the reasons for inflation. And another reason to sell products to foreign countries to make the cost more acceptable for buying. If our dollar goes down the flusher the whole world be be following behind or in front of us. One thing no one ever nmentions is who contolr the real ecnomcis of the worldnot goverment but Global CORPORTIONS. After the companies in the global businesss of food gets enough of the competition bought out they will be able to control price from the farmer to the grocer's shelf. And they are in boh the foood and meat industirs also. Those few global industries set the farmers price and what it is sold in the food stores. Another thing to worry about and be aware of is the organization of A.LE.C. They are a group that helps change legislation at the state level. Changes in the tort refoprm laws, EPA that that their members want changes, Work reform laws that are more favorable to their business members. And none of thsoe lawsare for the people, but to make changes in laws that bring change in laws that favor corporations. In other make changes that are favorable to their members and not for the people. Charter schools legislation originated from ALEC, not legislator. Just take a look at who benfits from thsoe laws that oiginates from ALEC.
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Nov 4, 2012
 
pappy wrote:
What do you think happended to the dollar while Bush was in office? the dollar has been devalued time after time--one of the reasons for inflation. And another reason to sell products to foreign countries to make the cost more acceptable for buying. If our dollar goes down the flusher the whole world be be following behind or in front of us. One thing no one ever nmentions is who contolr the real ecnomcis of the worldnot goverment but Global CORPORTIONS. After the companies in the global businesss of food gets enough of the competition bought out they will be able to control price from the farmer to the grocer's shelf. And they are in boh the foood and meat industirs also. Those few global industries set the farmers price and what it is sold in the food stores. Another thing to worry about and be aware of is the organization of A.LE.C. They are a group that helps change legislation at the state level. Changes in the tort refoprm laws, EPA that that their members want changes, Work reform laws that are more favorable to their business members. And none of thsoe lawsare for the people, but to make changes in laws that bring change in laws that favor corporations. In other make changes that are favorable to their members and not for the people. Charter schools legislation originated from ALEC, not legislator. Just take a look at who benfits from thsoe laws that oiginates from ALEC.
The dollar has always been what the value of world currencies are based on. One of obama's goals is to do away with that notion. His acts of getting out credit lowered from AAA+ to AA- is a step in that direction. Once he accomplishes that, it cannot be undone and we will lose the many advantages that we have enjoyed all these years. You need to stop concentrating on Bush and look at what your man is doing to America.

Please explain what you mean by "the dollar has been devalued time after time."

Inflation is caused by the US spending money that it don't have and printing money to use for that purpose. Do some reading about the time when each dollar had to be backed by a certain amount of gold. If there was no gold in Ft. Knox to back up the dollar, it did not get printed.
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Nov 9, 2012
 
SunRise, bush lowered the value of the dolllar wnd the reason was to sell more products to foreign countries. And our products sells to foreign countries did increse because of the devaluing of the dollar. the devalue of the dollar is one reason of infalation and the higher cost of products. It has been going on for ever in the world. and here. Check on the state of Germany during the and before the depression. The printing of too much money by goverment and having an over abundance of money floating around also is a factor in inflation. Plus like the speculstion in oil and gasolin can cause inflation because of higher prices and other products like food. Even the rising cost of products can cause inflation. Now what is you reason for the cause of inflation SUNSHINE
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Nov 9, 2012
 
Look at what happpened to our election. Some ultra rich people thought being billionaires they could just come along and buy an election with their money. the people gave their answer and voted against their candidate. The people said enough when the republicans passed laws that would deny some voters the privilege to vote. Agin they said no. thenm soem who thought they had the power and told their employees if they voted for Obama they would lose their jobs--and soem were fired for casting their votes and Pbama won-- Teh wealthy who own most of the corporations have formed a union to organize their corporations under an organization known as ALEC ( american legislative exchange council) that formulates and rites legislaltion that greatly benefits their members--the corporations and the council also has about 1000 state and federal legislative members that brings the councils legislation before the other state legislators. That is the pieces of legislation that has been paased in some of the states such as the gun laws passed in different states, the voters suppression laws, the anti union laws. and some of the laws that corporations want passed is thsoe pertaining to the enviorment. After all if the enviorment gets bad enough the rich have enough money to pack up and move to their favorite tax haven, and leave the working people in the enviormental mess they want to create and ALEC is the machine they will try to do it with--pass their favorite legislation with.
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Nov 10, 2012
 
pappy wrote:
SunRise, bush lowered the value of the dolllar wnd the reason was to sell more products to foreign countries. And our products sells to foreign countries did increse because of the devaluing of the dollar. the devalue of the dollar is one reason of infalation and the higher cost of products. It has been going on for ever in the world. and here. Check on the state of Germany during the and before the depression. The printing of too much money by goverment and having an over abundance of money floating around also is a factor in inflation. Plus like the speculstion in oil and gasolin can cause inflation because of higher prices and other products like food. Even the rising cost of products can cause inflation. Now what is you reason for the cause of inflation SUNSHINE
Inflation is caused by devaluing the dollar. If the government prints a dollar instead of cutting expenses or taxing (bringing in more of those dollars in circulation) then the dollar in your pocket is worth less because of the printed (counterfeit) dollar. Berneke issued QE1 and QE2 and is about to issue QE3. Selling products overseas has nothing to do with inflation. If we SELL a product then we receive money for it to put back in the cash register. Inflation IS the higher cost of products. Because your government printed new money instead of recirculating we have inflation. It will take the dollar you had in your pocket plus one or two of those counterfiet dollars to buy what you bought last year for the dollar you have in your pocket.
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Nov 10, 2012
 
pappy wrote:
Look at what happpened to our election. Some ultra rich people thought being billionaires they could just come along and buy an election with their money. the people gave their answer and voted against their candidate.
No, Pappy. That is not what happened. We now have a divided society due to the class warfare and racial divide that obama has created. We have people that have worked, earned, saved, invested and done whatever it takes to become self sufficient and even rich. Then on the other side we have people that live day to day, check to check. We have people who have never worked but always lived off government benefits. We have young people who have never worked but have always been given everything they have wanted. We have college age that are being taught by far left liberals which includes almost all college professors. We have vulnerable elderly that live only on a small SS check. The first thing democrats do is to start saying the republicans will take away your SS check and it scares them. We have illegal immigrants that never had to sware to uphold the constitution of the US and desert the nation from which they came. They were just given the right to vote and they came here for the free handouts. We have a divided nation and that credit goes to obama.
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The people said enough when the republicans passed laws that would deny some voters the privilege to vote. Agin they said no.
What laws would that be? I do not know of any law that has been passed that would deny a person the right to vote.
pappy wrote:
thenm soem who thought they had the power and told their employees if they voted for Obama they would lose their jobs--and soem were fired for casting their votes and Pbama won--
I don't believe that. I have never heard of any such thing.
pappy wrote:
Teh wealthy who own most of the corporations have formed a union to organize their corporations under an organization known as ALEC ( american legislative exchange council) that formulates and rites legislaltion that greatly benefits their members--the corporations and the council also has about 1000 state and federal legislative members that brings the councils legislation before the other state legislators. That is the pieces of legislation that has been paased in some of the states such as the gun laws passed in different states, the voters suppression laws, the anti union laws. and some of the laws that corporations want passed is thsoe pertaining to the enviorment. After all if the enviorment gets bad enough the rich have enough money to pack up and move to their favorite tax haven, and leave the working people in the enviormental mess they want to create and ALEC is the machine they will try to do it with--pass their favorite legislation with.
I think you are having nightmares again. I have never heard of that organization but that does not mean that it does not exist. But you are right about one thing. The rich do have the means to move to another country but the people who voted for obama cannot add two plus two. When the rich leave, who will be supplying the jobs? Who will be building and expanding those corporation that offers jobs? Who will be paying the high taxes that obama voters want to place on the rich? In return how will the government benefits be paid to the obama voters? Have you ever read the story about the goose that laid the golden egg? That is a good analogy.
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#94
Nov 10, 2012
 
pappy wrote:
Look at what happpened to our election. Some ultra rich people thought being billionaires they could just come along and buy an election with their money. the people gave their answer and voted against their candidate. The people said enough when the republicans passed laws that would deny some voters the privilege to vote. Agin they said no. thenm soem who thought they had the power and told their employees if they voted for Obama they would lose their jobs--and soem were fired for casting their votes and Pbama won-- Teh wealthy who own most of the corporations have formed a union to organize their corporations under an organization known as ALEC ( american legislative exchange council) that formulates and rites legislaltion that greatly benefits their members--the corporations and the council also has about 1000 state and federal legislative members that brings the councils legislation before the other state legislators. That is the pieces of legislation that has been paased in some of the states such as the gun laws passed in different states, the voters suppression laws, the anti union laws. and some of the laws that corporations want passed is thsoe pertaining to the enviorment. After all if the enviorment gets bad enough the rich have enough money to pack up and move to their favorite tax haven, and leave the working people in the enviormental mess they want to create and ALEC is the machine they will try to do it with--pass their favorite legislation with.
Pappy, you probably didn't know the wealthy got what they wanted because their man bought the WH. Free phones,free minutes,free healthcare,welfare,SSI programs...free,free,free! Public's vote was bought.

FACT: 8 OUT 10 WEALTHIEST COUNTIES IN AMERICAN WENT TO OBAMA!!!

Millions of people believe what they were told about Romney yes he's rich and had rich backers but look at the facts so is Obama!
We didn't have a candidate who isn't in the bag to the rich...you were hoodwinked and fooled.
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Nov 10, 2012
 
Yeah and the government phones are provided by the world's wealthiest man a Mexican National. Big backer of Obama!

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Queastions wrote:
Republicans will always be firmly rooted in what they believe and so will democrats. Why do people think that obama is muslim. He is christisn and he goes to a christian church. And my queastion is or well slash queastion. Isnt the senate and house of representatives responsible for some of the way our country is. What happened to the system of checks and balances. Nothing can happen with out the approvile of them and unless im wrong most of the things people are complaining about the idea started in the house. And how does the president create
jobs. Does he force employers to hire. Or start a company to hire people.(That was sarcasm) and no im not tryn to throw my believes on any one i was just giving my opinion not trying to change anyones
You think Mr. Obama going to a "Christian Church" makes him a Christian? If that be the case I guess if I go to a store that sells beer that makes me a person that drinks!....NOT!!! I don't understand people who think this man is a Christian when he go against everything the BIBLE teaches....INSANE!!! People... The Republican and Democratic parties are NOT what they used to be....our ancestors would roll over if they only knew. I voted for Romney/Ryan not because I'm republican but because at least they do have Christian values....they don't bow down to the Muslim leaders in other countries, they haven't gone to foreign countries and said that we r no longer a Christian nation, they don't expect the taxpayers to pay for the murder of an unborn child, and the list goes on and on....really? In my opinion the DEMOCRATIC PARTY should hang their head in shame....our GREAT NATION was founded on God but they had to TAKE A VOTE to have GOD PUT BACK ON THEIR PLATFORM....sounds like we really have GREAT AND WONDERFUL things going on for us with that party...ugh. Just the thought of 4 more years with that idiot makes me sick! I will just say this....I WILL BE PERSECUTED BEFORE I BOW DOWN TO THAT MUSLIM MAN!!!! I AM A CHRISTIAN AND IT IS IN CHRIST ALONE THAT I STAND!!!
With all this being said...I DO NOT CARE WHO I OFFEND!!!
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Nov 14, 2012
 
Concerned for kids wrote:
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You think Mr. Obama going to a "Christian Church" makes him a Christian? If that be the case I guess if I go to a store that sells beer that makes me a person that drinks!....NOT!!! I don't understand people who think this man is a Christian when he go against everything the BIBLE teaches....INSANE!!! People... The Republican and Democratic parties are NOT what they used to be....our ancestors would roll over if they only knew. I voted for Romney/Ryan not because I'm republican but because at least they do have Christian values....they don't bow down to the Muslim leaders in other countries, they haven't gone to foreign countries and said that we r no longer a Christian nation, they don't expect the taxpayers to pay for the murder of an unborn child, and the list goes on and on....really? In my opinion the DEMOCRATIC PARTY should hang their head in shame....our GREAT NATION was founded on God but they had to TAKE A VOTE to have GOD PUT BACK ON THEIR PLATFORM....sounds like we really have GREAT AND WONDERFUL things going on for us with that party...ugh. Just the thought of 4 more years with that idiot makes me sick! I will just say this....I WILL BE PERSECUTED BEFORE I BOW DOWN TO THAT MUSLIM MAN!!!! I AM A CHRISTIAN AND IT IS IN CHRIST ALONE THAT I STAND!!!
With all this being said...I DO NOT CARE WHO I OFFEND!!!
How many times has obama even been inside of a church since he threw Rev. Wright under the bus? He would not let a Christian group meet on the WH lawn but he welcomed a Muslim group. The Republican party has been infiltrated with democrats after the big 2010 win by republicans. Democrats thought that would help get them elected. They did not change their views only the name of their political affiliation.
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Nov 18, 2012
 
How many of you folks spoke up about the unpaid wars, or the unpaid tax cuts --I never saw aword on here by most of you asking how we are going to pay for thsoe items that were put on the credit cards and even some kept off and out of the budget during the Bush years,. Al Quida and the taliban was war was won in a short period of time and Bush never came home eith the 300 or so Cia or the special forces that helped win and drive the taliban and alQuida from the battlefield,. When troops were requested to cut off the retreat of thsoe we wanted to kill or capture thsoe troops were sent to Iraq, not Afghanstan. That alllowed our knwon enemy to escape and scatter to the 4 winds and return home to fight agin . And they did just thatAfter leaving Iraq we still left no democracy behind but another autocracy in place. And the coutry is still paying the cost of both thsoe wars, tax cuts, plus other expenses as the bushies said DEFICITS don't count. It appears it does. don't it. And we sre still paying for the choices of Bush and his deficit spending.
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Nov 18, 2012
 
By the way folks it does not matter whether or not you like the polics or Obama he is here to stay for 4 more years. Now what happened to Romney is he fell ill to his own deseae --ROMNESIA. aND HE NEVER DID EXPLAIN ABOUT OR TELL US HOW MANY OR WHERE HE CREATED THSOE 100,000 JOBS AT, J=GUESS THEY WERE ALL IN cHINA OR OFFSHORED ELSE WHERE. i KNOW HE OFFSHORED THOUSANNDS TO cHINA AND mEXICO. hE WAS THE ONE THAT BOUGHT deLPHI, eVEN THE LEADERS OF THE gop WANT rOMNEY TO DISAPPEAR. ESPECIALLY HIS BIG TIME DONORS.
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Dec 4, 2012
 
Fascism should more properly be called CORPORATISM, since it is the merger of state and corporate power. Now the man that said it was well experienced in knowing what he said. Benito Mussolini.

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