Occupy Wall St Debate - Madison, WI

[Occupy Obskeptic]

Obskeptic wrote:

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I would agree with that statement, but adolescent name calling and a "balls and wiener" fixation speaks volumes about your maturity level.

Any similarity between you and a human is purely coincidental!

[Chan]

These clowns are fighting for my rights...when they mess up small business in the area...give me a break

[Obskeptic]

Occupy Obskeptic wrote:

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Any similarity between you and a human is purely coincidental!

Very civil of you. Typical partisan. You are a shining example of why it is impossible to actually fix some of the problems we face as a nation. It takes fair minded adults and the democrats ran out of those a long time ago.

[Occupy Obskeptic]

Too bad stupidity isn't painful.

[About Paid Govt Trolls]

Regarding all the paid government trolls we are seeing on the net trying to put down and silence protestors. That's crazy. Or is it?

The government would never pay fat, disgusting, pathetic, useless, mentally challenged/ill, otherwise chronically unemployed, traitorous, greasy, butterball turkey pedophile, cubicle zombies to troll. Don't you think Americans would see right through them and their drolling one-liners?

The next thing you'll say is these paid trolls actually sit there all day on their computers and stack the online polls against protesting the corrupt, out of control, bloated, criminal foreign banker owned, federal government.

How big a bunch of lowlifes do you think the banker bought Deomocrats and Republicans in Washington DC are anyway? Hmmmm....

Americans will stop protesting when the government cleans up. In other words patriotic Americans aren't going to be quiting any time soon.=^P

[Deerbear]

It's a shame !

[rich are rebuttlickers]

About Paid Govt Trolls wrote:

Regarding all the paid government trolls we are seeing on the net trying to put down and silence protestors. That's crazy. Or is it?
The government would never pay fat, disgusting, pathetic, useless, mentally challenged/ill, otherwise chronically unemployed, traitorous, greasy, butterball turkey pedophile, cubicle zombies to troll. Don't you think Americans would see right through them and their drolling one-liners?
The next thing you'll say is these paid trolls actually sit there all day on their computers and stack the online polls against protesting the corrupt, out of control, bloated, criminal foreign banker owned, federal government.
How big a bunch of lowlifes do you think the banker bought Deomocrats and Republicans in Washington DC are anyway? Hmmmm....
Americans will stop protesting when the government cleans up. In other words patriotic Americans aren't going to be quiting any time soon.=^P

Now there is video of police repeatedly pepper spraying protestors at UC davis while they sat arms interlocked on the ground.

the police must want change too, and why wouldnt they, they get paid shit, because of rebuttlicken trolls are being the stingiest F**ckers on the planet.

why else would they pull such a ridiculous stunt as attacking people who are sitting still holding hands. either that, or none of those cops have EVER heard of the civil rights movement, or Ghandi's Satayagrist movement for indian independance that lasted more than 30 year.
the Idea is to attract attention(and hence, sway sentiment towards you) by being physically attacked while your sitting still.. now we have video cameras everywhere(on everybodies phones), so world wide web exposure is only a few clicks away for someone standing only feet away from the incident...making people famous(cops) for the wrong reasons, instantly!!

[Obskeptic]

rich are rebuttlickers wrote:

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Now there is video of police repeatedly pepper spraying protestors at UC davis while they sat arms interlocked on the ground.
the police must want change too, and why wouldnt they, they get paid shit, because of rebuttlicken trolls are being the stingiest F**ckers on the planet.
why else would they pull such a ridiculous stunt as attacking people who are sitting still holding hands. either that, or none of those cops have EVER heard of the civil rights movement, or Ghandi's Satayagrist movement for indian independance that lasted more than 30 year.
the Idea is to attract attention(and hence, sway sentiment towards you) by being physically attacked while your sitting still.. now we have video cameras everywhere(on everybodies phones), so world wide web exposure is only a few clicks away for someone standing only feet away from the incident...making people famous(cops) for the wrong reasons, instantly!!

OWS and their "Flash Mob" mentality!!

Their obvious entitlement mentality. It’s ok to take by force the property of others, because it’s “owed” to you as a “victim” of society. For Occupiers, this includes bank lobbies, the front yards of “the enemy”, abandoned homes/property, and – of course – your tax dollars.
Their willingness to use obnoxiousness and/or violence to get what they want. How often have we seen this in the bigger“Occupy” cities like Oakland, Seattle, Portland, and NYC?
Along with that, the preying on of those perceived as weak. In the case of Occupiers, it’s women, the homeless, and the handicapped – among others.
The mind-blowing lack of any real sense of personal responsibility. Occupiers, for example, believe that “Occupying” foreclosed homes is imperative, because it’s “the bank’s” fault the homeowner either knowingly took on a mortgage they couldn’t handle, or couldn’t pay after a job loss. They also believe that college students should not have to pay back student loans they signed on for, and that instead you and I should foot the bill.
The willingness to cover their faces in the act of defying city laws and ordinances in order to “occupy” and “protest.” We see this most often with Occupiers who wear bandana face coverings and Guy Fawkes masks. They’ll tell you it’s to ward off the so-called “chemical agents” used by their local PD, but that’s only part of the reason. The other part is to make it harder for police to find them and arrest them in the event they are “wanted” by the authorities for breaking the law.
Can’t get what you want on an individual basis? Mob rule is most definitely in order in both flash mobs and Occupy communes.
That’s all I’ve got so far, but I’m sure there’s more. Anyone else?

[rich are rebuttlickers]

Obskeptic wrote:

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OWS and their "Flash Mob" mentality!!
Their obvious entitlement mentality. It’s ok to take by force the property of others, because it’s “owed” to you as a “victim” of society. For Occupiers, this includes bank lobbies, the front yards of “the enemy”, abandoned homes/property, and – of course – your tax dollars.
Their willingness to use obnoxiousness and/or violence to get what they want. How often have we seen this in the bigger“Occupy” cities like Oakland, Seattle, Portland, and NYC?
Along with that, the preying on of those perceived as weak. In the case of Occupiers, it’s women, the homeless, and the handicapped – among others.
The mind-blowing lack of any real sense of personal responsibility. Occupiers, for example, believe that “Occupying” foreclosed homes is imperative, because it’s “the bank’s” fault the homeowner either knowingly took on a mortgage they couldn’t handle, or couldn’t pay after a job loss. They also believe that college students should not have to pay back student loans they signed on for, and that instead you and I should foot the bill.
The willingness to cover their faces in the act of defying city laws and ordinances in order to “occupy” and “protest.” We see this most often with Occupiers who wear bandana face coverings and Guy Fawkes masks. They’ll tell you it’s to ward off the so-called “chemical agents” used by their local PD, but that’s only part of the reason. The other part is to make it harder for police to find them and arrest them in the event they are “wanted” by the authorities for breaking the law.
Can’t get what you want on an individual basis? Mob rule is most definitely in order in both flash mobs and Occupy communes.
That’s all I’ve got so far, but I’m sure there’s more. Anyone else?

if that was organized better, your post could be a script for "Fox and friends" because those are the kind of lies they spread.

I know your taken aback by the fact that people want their country back, but are standing up with Obama?

when I tune in to see the protests I see people sitting peacefully and resisting arrest as the cops violate the constitution.

this is just another example of many that let mainstream folks know that the right is not with ordinary people
(or the constitution). when you call grandmothers getting maced in seattle criminals, then your obviously un-american or dont believe in the freedom of assemby!

what you say?? you werre out in the street when the tea party was having its say?? well now you guys got elected... and where are the jobs....all I see is the republicans fillibustering the jobs bill.

there is another party that protested hard, gained power and then squashed disent, The nazi party!! and your lining up with them.

or DO you believe in free speech?? ill give you a chance to redeem yourself after that lambasting.

[RealDave]

Obskeptic wrote:

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OWS and their "Flash Mob" mentality!!
Their obvious entitlement mentality. It’s ok to take by force the property of others, because it’s “owed” to you as a “victim” of society. For Occupiers, this includes bank lobbies, the front yards of “the enemy”, abandoned homes/property, and – of course – your tax dollars.
Their willingness to use obnoxiousness and/or violence to get what they want. How often have we seen this in the bigger“Occupy” cities like Oakland, Seattle, Portland, and NYC?
Along with that, the preying on of those perceived as weak. In the case of Occupiers, it’s women, the homeless, and the handicapped – among others.
The mind-blowing lack of any real sense of personal responsibility. Occupiers, for example, believe that “Occupying” foreclosed homes is imperative, because it’s “the bank’s” fault the homeowner either knowingly took on a mortgage they couldn’t handle, or couldn’t pay after a job loss. They also believe that college students should not have to pay back student loans they signed on for, and that instead you and I should foot the bill.
The willingness to cover their faces in the act of defying city laws and ordinances in order to “occupy” and “protest.” We see this most often with Occupiers who wear bandana face coverings and Guy Fawkes masks. They’ll tell you it’s to ward off the so-called “chemical agents” used by their local PD, but that’s only part of the reason. The other part is to make it harder for police to find them and arrest them in the event they are “wanted” by the authorities for breaking the law.
Can’t get what you want on an individual basis? Mob rule is most definitely in order in both flash mobs and Occupy communes.
That’s all I’ve got so far, but I’m sure there’s more. Anyone else?

Nothing like a word thief to complain about someone else.

Who did you steal this from?

The right wing mentality on display. No original thought. Cut & paste & pretend they actually wrote it.

Really pathetic.

[Obskeptic]

rich are rebuttlickers wrote:

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if that was organized better, your post could be a script for "Fox and friends" because those are the kind of lies they spread.
I know your taken aback by the fact that people want their country back, but are standing up with Obama?
when I tune in to see the protests I see people sitting peacefully and resisting arrest as the cops violate the constitution.
this is just another example of many that let mainstream folks know that the right is not with ordinary people
(or the constitution). when you call grandmothers getting maced in seattle criminals, then your obviously un-american or dont believe in the freedom of assemby!
what you say?? you werre out in the street when the tea party was having its say?? well now you guys got elected... and where are the jobs....all I see is the republicans fillibustering the jobs bill.
there is another party that protested hard, gained power and then squashed disent, The nazi party!! and your lining up with them.
or DO you believe in free speech?? ill give you a chance to redeem yourself after that lambasting.

Seems to me that I hit a raw nerve. That post must have hit a bit to close to home. The republicans have actually proposed a number of things but the Senate is still in the control of the democrats. At least it is for now. That same Senate, under the control of the democrats, is approaching 1000 days now of not submitting a budget. The last budget the President proposed was back in February with no new proposals. Do you remember what the vote was on that one? I'll remind you, 97-0 voting it down. Your an uninformed, partisan story teller who could care less how wrong he is. I do believe in free speech, and the freedom to assemble peacefully. Your movement has now cost the taxpayers over 13 million dollars of money that those municipalities need for more important services to the community. One NFL game tomorrow will have more people attending then all of your misguided protests put together. You are only relevant to yourselves. The rest of us are waiting for you all to just go away and find a job. Everyone here in our house has a job, and we live in Detroit.

[Obskeptic]

RealDave wrote:

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Nothing like a word thief to complain about someone else.
Who did you steal this from?
The right wing mentality on display. No original thought. Cut & paste & pretend they actually wrote it.
Really pathetic.

Your funny!!!

[Occupy Obskeptic]

Obskeptic wrote:

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Your funny!!!

You're a jackass!

[rich are rebuttlickers]

Obskeptic wrote:

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Seems to me that I hit a raw nerve. That post must have hit a bit to close to home. The republicans have actually proposed a number of things but the Senate is still in the control of the democrats. At least it is for now. That same Senate, under the control of the democrats, is approaching 1000 days now of not submitting a budget. The last budget the President proposed was back in February with no new proposals. Do you remember what the vote was on that one? I'll remind you, 97-0 voting it down. Your an uninformed, partisan story teller who could care less how wrong he is. I do believe in free speech, and the freedom to assemble peacefully. Your movement has now cost the taxpayers over 13 million dollars of money that those municipalities need for more important services to the community. One NFL game tomorrow will have more people attending then all of your misguided protests put together. You are only relevant to yourselves. The rest of us are waiting for you all to just go away and find a job. Everyone here in our house has a job, and we live in Detroit.

its not my movement mr uninformed.
its our movement. is an NFL game a movement?

the police are the ones causing the problems. reinstate glass steigal something we used to have. is that so hard? dont you want it back so that there wont be another crash like that? you remember, the one in 08'? well there is another one coming, but it can be avoided if we act.

so have the democrats proposed any budgets in the last 1000 days?? or did obama propose one last february....your talking in circles.
try to make sense.

I dont see any proposals from the congress regarding job creation.

do you have any NAMES of bills??
because 51 votes in the senate isnt a victory.
if that was the rebuttlickens getting fillibustered youd be screaming bloody murder!

So there it is, pass the jobs bill or pay politically for stalling out the goverenmnt for political purposes. since you dont watch "main stream media" except faux news, then ill inform you that that is the narrative that they are setting up(for 12'). this time they are accurate.

[Obskeptic]

rich are rebuttlickers wrote:

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its not my movement mr uninformed.
its our movement. is an NFL game a movement?
the police are the ones causing the problems. reinstate glass steigal something we used to have. is that so hard? dont you want it back so that there wont be another crash like that? you remember, the one in 08'? well there is another one coming, but it can be avoided if we act.
so have the democrats proposed any budgets in the last 1000 days?? or did obama propose one last february....your talking in circles.
try to make sense.
I dont see any proposals from the congress regarding job creation.
do you have any NAMES of bills??
because 51 votes in the senate isnt a victory.
if that was the rebuttlickens getting fillibustered youd be screaming bloody murder!
So there it is, pass the jobs bill or pay politically for stalling out the goverenmnt for political purposes. since you dont watch "main stream media" except faux news, then ill inform you that that is the narrative that they are setting up(for 12'). this time they are accurate.

No, sorry, it's your movement, not ours or even most of the countries. The NFL is entertainment, just like your movement has become.
I totally agree with you on Glass/Stiegal. It should be reinstated today and that would go along way towards righting the ship.
The reason you are not seeing what the republicans have offered up is because it makes sense and the democrats are controlling the narrative through the MSM. I will do some research and get back to you on what proposals the republicans have put forth.
The democrats in the Senate have not produced a budget bill. I said that the President did offer one up in February, and it was voted down 97-0 and he has not offered any proposals since, or offered any plan at all to reduce spending. He and the rest of the democrats are fixated on making sure that taxes go up on our citizenry, especially those that have actually earned some money.
We have a serious, and apparently unfixable spending problem here in America, and it will destroy our children's freedom. I guess you just don't care about that.

[Obskeptic]

Occupy Obskeptic wrote:

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You're a jackass!

Actually I am an elephant for right now. I will give them one more chance to fix the brand. You would be the jack ass my friend, and it is a very fitting symbol of todays extreme left democrats. According to Doug Schoen you are about to see a repeat of the mid-terms this coming election cycle, and it will have very little to do with how great the republicans are, and everything to do with what a bunch of asses the democrats are. Your crew is getting fired and the republicans will win as the default party. Hopefully they have the nutsack to undo what this Liar in Thief has perpetrated on the country.

[Obskeptic]

rich are rebuttlickers wrote:

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its not my movement mr uninformed.
its our movement. is an NFL game a movement?
the police are the ones causing the problems. reinstate glass steigal something we used to have. is that so hard? dont you want it back so that there wont be another crash like that? you remember, the one in 08'? well there is another one coming, but it can be avoided if we act.
so have the democrats proposed any budgets in the last 1000 days?? or did obama propose one last february....your talking in circles.
try to make sense.
I dont see any proposals from the congress regarding job creation.
do you have any NAMES of bills??
because 51 votes in the senate isnt a victory.
if that was the rebuttlickens getting fillibustered youd be screaming bloody murder!
So there it is, pass the jobs bill or pay politically for stalling out the goverenmnt for political purposes. since you dont watch "main stream media" except faux news, then ill inform you that that is the narrative that they are setting up(for 12'). this time they are accurate.

It's a lot of reading, which is why no democrats would know about it.

http://budget.house.gov/UploadedFiles/PathToP...

[Occupy Detroit]

Obskeptic wrote:

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Actually I am an elephant for right now. I will give them one more chance to fix the brand. You would be the jack ass my friend, and it is a very fitting symbol of todays extreme left democrats. According to Doug Schoen you are about to see a repeat of the mid-terms this coming election cycle, and it will have very little to do with how great the republicans are, and everything to do with what a bunch of asses the democrats are. Your crew is getting fired and the republicans will win as the default party. Hopefully they have the nutsack to undo what this Liar in Thief has perpetrated on the country.

I really interested in hearing specifics from you about how the republicans will Undo what Obama "has done"

Obama hasnt really "done anything" that bush wouldnt have except pass Obama care. But Bush signed Medicare part D.
what do you think about medicare part D? anyhow? are you against it or for it. Bush and Obama teamed up with timmy geitner on the 1.5 trillion dollar bailouts. YOU Do you remember those, right?

Obama has kept Bush's wars going and INCRESED the defence budget.

Obama has extended Bush 03 tax cuts for the wealthiest americans.

Obama has continued with Bush ANTI_TRANSLUCENCY campaign by supporting the un-constitutional patriot act.

there are more similarities than differences.
Like Obama care, which is actually a copy of another republican's plan, Mitt Romney's health care mandate in massachussets.

thats why I call it "O'Romney care".

I think you hit the nail on the head with politics......your waiting for the other guys to F*** up instead of trying to lead yourselves. believe me, leading gets you more political support.

ill try to find that adress as my computer wont open that site.

Im sure whatever they have on the table is mainly a corporate give away. you know the idea!! give tax breaks to the rich and HOPE they create some jobs. it hasnt worked so far.

doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result IS the definition of insanity.(or stupidity in congress's case)

PS: do you know congress has a 9% approval rating??
why do you think the president is so confident in reelection?
His rating is only 43%. how could someone be confident of reelection with numbers like that?? all you have to do is tune into the republican debates to find the answer to that one.
the tone and content of the discussion are SOOOOOO far outside of the mainstream.

[Occupy Detroit]

Iona Hummer wrote:

I saw on the news that a massive hoard of OWS protesters marched to Washington DC. There were 46 who actually marched the whole distance according to AP, plus a few stragglers who slipped in on the outskirts and tried to pretend they marched from NYC. About 130 left NYC but most dropped out before getting out of NY state. Less than 50% of the original marchers were dedicated to finishing the task.
Occupy Washington DC's encampment is having a serious problem with lice. CNN reports that campers have been told to spray their clothing and tents with a potent insecticide and to wash their hair in an anti-louse specific shampoo. Gerald Wampole, the Occupy DC community leader made suggestions yesterday that bank officials may have released the lice on purpose to disrupt the movement.

I dont think you have a grasp of what large corporations who have a lot to lose will do when those profits are threatened by say....protestors who wont go home. its the banks nightmare.

and quite frankly they ALL deserve it for the crash and the sunsequent bailouts by the American public.

mabey they will all shave their heads now and look like a bunch of krshnas...but its not going to send them home.
from past incidents in the 70's and 80's, im convinced the Cia has infiltrated the camps(even though they are mandated to be a foriegn spying agency) and has intigated trouble. all you need to do is start beating on a protestor and "reports of violence" are on the news.....and you guys are against change anyways, so what they report on the faux news is slanted to the right wing audience anyhow. its one of the tactics the CIa used to overthrow Mossadaq in Iran in 53.

SO your precious billionaire bankers are getting called out for decades of greed and abuse. and your goose-stepping right along with Obama and his bankers in your gas guzzing hummer!!
good work ass face.

[shovelhead72]

I agree that Wall Street has taken blatant advantage of the laws governing financial transactions, and that Congress has been purchased lock stock and barrel by big business interests. I also believe that the only meaningful protest against this trend is to remove one's money from the big banks, stop purchasing ANYTHING made overseas, and refuse to re-elect the bastards which caused this mess. All that, however, is secondary to the real solution, which is to prosecute folks who ream the American people - namely Congressmen/women who legislate in favor of corporate greed at our expense - and rescind those laws and loopholes which make it possible for companies to profit more from overseas production than from production here, and allow the wealthy to avoid paying taxes like the rest of us.