Occupy Wall St Debate - Hayesville, NC
Discuss the national Occupy Wall St debate in Hayesville, NC.
Do you identify with the Occupy Wall Street movement?
@Huh, been formulating a response to you, but work has come first. That and endlessly reading stuff about this insane and momentous time upon the earth on the Internet and elsewhere. Cheers
"Get a What? A Job? 70% of Occupy Wall Streeters are Employed, Compared to 56% of Tea Partiers":
Let me guess where you get your news. FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
We are Occupying DC. But why occupy DC when their employers are on Wall Street?
SHAME ON YOU PROPAGANDIST
Break down of the Occupy Wall Street people.
Traffic on the Occupy Wall Street site averaged about 400,000 visitors a day during the sample week (October 7th), which represents more than 10% of the population. 1619 people completed the survey.
Not surprising, nearly 2/3 of the protesters are under 35. But one in three is over 35 and one in five is over 45.
81.3% of respondents considered themselves White, 1.3% Black\African American, 3.2% Asian,.4% Native American Indian, 2.9% Mixed, 7.7% Hispanic, and 3.2% considered themselves some other group.
Only 7.9% of respondents lack at least some college.
27.4% have some college (but no degree), 35% have a college degree, 8.2% have some graduate school (but no degree), and close to 21.5% have a graduate school degree.
70% of respondents had jobs. 50.4% worked full time. 20.4% worked part time.
Only 13.1% are unemployed.
47.5% of the sample earns less than $24,999 dollars a year and another quarter (24%) earn between $25,000 and $49,999 per year.
71.5% of the sample earns less than $50,000 per year.
15.4% of the sample earned between $50,000 and $74,999.
The remainder 13% of the sample earn over $75,000 with close to 2% earning over $150,000 per year.
27.3% of respondents considered themselves Democrats, another 2.4% said they were Republican.
Interestingly, a very large proportion of the sample, close to 70.3%, considered themselves Independents.
Cordero-Guzman concluded that the 99% looked like the 99%.
The one way they did significantly differ was in gender. 67% were male. 30.9% were female and 2% preferred another gender designation.
92.5% of the respondents either strongly or somewhat agree with the protests. Over 91.8% believe the movement is likely to grow.
SHAME CORPORATE PROPAGANDIST
Who gives a shit about your your statistics? Seriously look at this sites stats and by almost a 2 to 1 majority, support is in the opposite corner. If your movement was really winning the hearts and minds of the American people than why are there ads on craig's list hiring people to protest. Why is Soro's infusing money in your protest? That's right Tool you will be discarded after the next election like yesterdays trash. Lets take a look at todays headlines and count the shootings and suicides at your OWS camps.
I also read that Jay-Z is selling OSW shirts and won't share the profits with you. and the final piece of hypocrisy I will share with you is that OWS opened a bank account with BOA in San Diego 2 days after the move your money BS happened. You are a tool.
I need to correct my last statement OWS deposited $20k in a Wells Fargo Oakland branch on Nov 9. Still pretty much the same thing. Also why is Michael Moore and Alec Baldwin hanging with you guys. You know they are the 1% right?? By the way Alec Baldwin has a $9 million apartment 3 blocks from zuccotti park, maybe he will let a few of the protestors spend the night with him. Why not ask him on his twitter feed.
This article is pretty great: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/11/11-7
How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love the OWS Protests
Much more than a movement against big banks, they're a rejection of what our society has become.
"If you think of it this way, Occupy Wall Street takes on another meaning. There's no better symbol of the gloom and psychological repression of modern America than the banking system, a huge heartless machine that attaches itself to you at an early age, and from which there is no escape. You fail to receive a few past-due notices about a $19 payment you missed on that TV you bought at Circuit City, and next thing you know a collector has filed a judgment against you for $3,000 in fees and interest. Or maybe you wake up one morning and your car is gone, legally repossessed by Vulture Inc., the debt-buying firm that bought your loan on the Internet from Chase for two cents on the dollar. This is why people hate Wall Street. They hate it because the banks have made life for ordinary people a vicious tightrope act; you slip anywhere along the way, it's 10,000 feet down into a vat of razor blades that you can never climb out of.
That, to me, is what Occupy Wall Street is addressing. People don't know exactly what they want, but as one friend of mine put it, they know one thing: FUCK THIS SHIT! We want something different: a different life, with different values, or at least a chance at different values.
There was a lot of snickering in media circles, even by me, when I heard the protesters talking about how Liberty Square was offering a model for a new society, with free food and health care and so on. Obviously, a bunch of kids taking donations and giving away free food is not a long-term model for a new economic system.
But now, I get it. People want to go someplace for at least five minutes where no one is trying to bleed you or sell you something. It may not be a real model for anything, but it's at least a place where people are free to dream of some other way for human beings to get along, beyond auctioned "democracy," tyrannical commerce and the bottom line.
We're a nation that was built on a thousand different utopian ideas, from the Shakers to the Mormons to New Harmony, Indiana. It was possible, once, for communities to experiment with everything from free love to an end to private property. But nowadays even the palest federalism is swiftly crushed. If your state tries to place tariffs on companies doing business with some notorious human-rights-violator state like Massachusetts did, when it sought to bar state contracts to firms doing business with Myanmar the decision will be overturned by some distant global bureaucracy like the WTO. Even if 40 million Californians vote tomorrow to allow themselves to smoke a joint, the federal government will never permit it. And the economy is run almost entirely by an unaccountable oligarchy in Lower Manhattan that absolutely will not sanction any innovations in banking or debt forgiveness or anything else that might lessen its predatory influence."
Granted, I see what your trying to say. What I am saying to you is You're doing it wrong. If a bank raises your interest rates because you miss a payment, maybe you should have read the fine print on the agreement you signed for the loan. Maybe you didn't need that 60" 3D TV from Best Buy if you didn't have cash to pay for it. The major problem as I see it is everyone wants to play but nobody wants to pay. If you want to see whats really the issue tune into 60 minutes tonight (yeah I know CBS and their bought and paid for Leftist views) and see how members of of the Government are playing us. Nancy Pelosi a OWS supporter shows how she amassed $50 million in wealth on $270K salary. If you want change vote out every incumbent member of congress and the senate and start over. Stop the payouts of Lobbyist to every one with a vote including Barrack O'Bummer. Maybe then you will have a voice to change things. March on Washington not your local bank, Send demands to Congress not AIG. But I assume you and most people with OWS will not vote out the main cause of you frustrations come next November. Finally I don't see why anyone should give you debt forgiveness WTH does that mean? If you bought and used a product or service, you need to pay for it or maybe do like most people do and do without.
Bunch of homeless clueless people looking for attention, free stuff and something to do.
going about it the wrong way.
Over 30,000 People Rally in New York City (NYPD estimated 32,500), including organized contingents of workers, students, and other members of the 99%
"Our political system should serve all of us not just the very rich and powerful. Right now Wall Street owns Washington," said participants . "We are the 99% and we are here to reclaim our democracy."
POWER TO THE PEOPLE
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