Obama-Marriage Debate - Somerset, KY

Discuss the national Obama-Marriage debate in Somerset, KY.

Are you with President Obama in supporting gay marriage?

Somerset is not with Obama on gay marriage
Not at all
 
92
Yes, all the way
 
65
I'm on the fence
 
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#1355 Feb 13, 2013
There's nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality, but that's not a good reason to redefine marriage.

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#1356 Feb 14, 2013
dionysio wrote:
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I pulled that out of a long list of bizarre claims to highlight where fanaticism can lead a captive mind. Freedom of speech and free access to information are some of the root causes of violence? Pay attention kids. Liberals aren't the ones trying to censor and limit your access to information.
Another highlight was the bit about farming out babies to homosexuals. I am trying to figure out how that works. We have a bunch of unwanted babies in orphanages who need parents. Allowing gay parents to adopt them is somehow worse than having no parents at all? Is that what you are saying? No parents are better than two parents with the same genitalia? What about having the same genitalia makes them bad parents? I mean just think it through for a minute.
Let's say we have Chuck and Larry, an upper middle-class family wanting to adopt a baby in an inner-city orphanage. What makes them bad parents? I mean, what is the connection between them having the same "gear" and sucking at parenting? Is it a law of the universe unknown to me? Also, why does having the same "gear" make them suck so bad at parenting that they are actually worse for the child than having no parents at all, growing up without a single person loving them enough to take care of them other than the secular state you already demonize? It may be true that in a perfect world, all children are loved by the mother and father who made them but we do not live in that world. We have to cope with the hand we are dealt and unfortunately, that means dealing with a whole lot of unwanted children.
I do not want to be unnecessarily cruel here because I get the suspicion you are either elderly or a very secluded fundamentalist and some changes in modern society may be a little jarring, but you have to realize that some of this is just nuts. We are all going to be ok. There's no big agenda to ruin your world. I am pretty socially liberal and if I am part of a secret agenda to bring about the apocalypse, nobody told me about it.
No, see, this is how it works.

You plant some baby seeds and grow them for a little while using taxpayer dollars. When they can be harvested you get some Mexicans to pull them up. Then you pick up the Gays in taxpayer funded limos and bring them to the Baby Farm. The Gays select babies for tenderness and texture. They aren't charged due to their privileged homosexual lifestyle status. They take the babies home and eventually some of them survive to enter the Liberal University System and the cycle continues.

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#1357 Feb 14, 2013
Nature boy wrote:
Being homosexual is a crime against nature. Homosexual acts are the same as having sex with animals.
Crime is defined by whatever breaks the law. Nature has no laws that can be broken. So premise 1 of your post is factually wrong.

People are animals. When I have sex with a person I'm having sex with an animal. So premise 2 of your post is a statement of obvious fact and adds nothing to the conversation.

Result =-1 points for this post. We are all a bit dumber for having read it, to paraphrase the classic movie.

Now go chew on a dog for a spell. lol

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#1358 Feb 14, 2013
Marriage is a cultural institution that predates our Constitution; government doesn't have the power to redefine marriage to make it gender segregated. Segregation and disunion harm everyone; keep marriage gender integrated for diversity.

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#1359 Feb 14, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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No, see, this is how it works.
You plant some baby seeds and grow them for a little while using taxpayer dollars. When they can be harvested you get some Mexicans to pull them up. Then you pick up the Gays in taxpayer funded limos and bring them to the Baby Farm. The Gays select babies for tenderness and texture. They aren't charged due to their privileged homosexual lifestyle status. They take the babies home and eventually some of them survive to enter the Liberal University System and the cycle continues.
HAHAHA! That was great! All this time, I was wondering what they meant. Now I know!
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#1360 Feb 14, 2013
I have been sharing recently concerning what drives much of the violence in our culture.

And as I have explained all violence we see played out is only the symptoms. But what is the root cause for the violence, what really drives it?

And as I have explained, when culture norms are skewed and twisted and contorted. And as moral laws are twisted and contorted. It is this twisting and contorting that leads one to violence. They lose their way morally.

I have talked before about the reason that a nail has a head on it. The reason is because that head stops the nail from going to far.

And this violence is what happens when a society removes the moral head from a society. There is nothing left to stop an individual from going to far.

And I find it interesting that this very, very sick LA- Shooter would reach out to such people as CNNís Anderson Cooper, Ellen Degeneres, Charlie Sheen etc. All known degenerates!

He did not reach out to true ministers or other common folk that carry within themselves moral standards and values.

What stoped this man from reaching out to those types of individuals? Why did he relate to the degenerates of our society?

The answer is really very simple!

He created a life of imitation vanilla for himself!

A life totally fabricated and without morals and conscience and personal responsibility for ones actions.

Why did he consider these individuals as his supporters?

Could it be that he considered, things equal to each other are equal to the same thing?

Why did he feel a connection with them?

What values if any did they share?

I guess you will have to decide that for yourself!

Once again I have not written to be critical.

But the truth must be told.

No individual and no nation. Can continue to sip honey laced with poison and remain true to its moral underpinnings.

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#1361 Feb 14, 2013
Real gay rights mean human rights, the right to simple human dignity, to be treated like everyone else. Once you ignore that right and create novel special rights to redefine marriage law for everyone, you step off the path of civilization.

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#1362 Feb 15, 2013
Pollster wrote:
I have been sharing recently concerning what drives much of the violence in our culture.
And as I have explained all violence we see played out is only the symptoms. But what is the root cause for the violence, what really drives it?
And as I have explained, when culture norms are skewed and twisted and contorted. And as moral laws are twisted and contorted. It is this twisting and contorting that leads one to violence. They lose their way morally.
I have talked before about the reason that a nail has a head on it. The reason is because that head stops the nail from going to far.
And this violence is what happens when a society removes the moral head from a society. There is nothing left to stop an individual from going to far.
And I find it interesting that this very, very sick LA- Shooter would reach out to such people as CNNís Anderson Cooper, Ellen Degeneres, Charlie Sheen etc. All known degenerates!
He did not reach out to true ministers or other common folk that carry within themselves moral standards and values.
What stoped this man from reaching out to those types of individuals? Why did he relate to the degenerates of our society?
The answer is really very simple!
He created a life of imitation vanilla for himself!
A life totally fabricated and without morals and conscience and personal responsibility for ones actions.
Why did he consider these individuals as his supporters?
Could it be that he considered, things equal to each other are equal to the same thing?
Why did he feel a connection with them?
What values if any did they share?
I guess you will have to decide that for yourself!
Once again I have not written to be critical.
But the truth must be told.
No individual and no nation. Can continue to sip honey laced with poison and remain true to its moral underpinnings.
Thanks, Ross Perot.

Y'see, the motor won't run without a flywheel. When the door creaks, you grease it! It's like I always told my friend Pete when we were playin' baseball: I said Pete, you know there's a fox when your best hen is gone and there's just a bunch of blood and feathers everywhere. Know what I mean?

The drain is clogged. You gotta break some eggs to make a cake!

I can't make it any clearer.

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#1363 Feb 15, 2013
There have been a bunch of these studies in the last few years. And since we keep seeing these anti-gay politicians and religious leaders caught shnorkling the pool boy over and over it kinda makes sense.

" Homophobes should consider a little self-reflection, suggests a new study finding those individuals who are most hostile toward gays and hold strong anti-gay views may themselves have same-sex desires, albeit undercover ones.

The prejudice of homophobia may also stem from authoritarian parents, particularly those with homophobic views as well, the researchers added.

"This study shows that if you are feeling that kind of visceral reaction to an out-group, ask yourself,'Why?'" co-author Richard Ryan, a professor of psychology at the University of Rochester, said in a statement. "Those intense emotions should serve as a call to self-reflection."

The research, published in the April 2012 issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, reveals the nuances of prejudices like homophobia, which can ultimately have dire consequences.[The 10 Most Destructive Human Behaviors]

"Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they are fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth protest too much,'" Ryan told LiveScience. "In addition, it appears that sometimes those who would oppress others have been oppressed themselves, and we can have some compassion for them too, they may be unaccepting of others because they cannot be accepting of themselves.""

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#1364 Feb 15, 2013
Yiago wrote:
There have been a bunch of these studies in the last few years. And since we keep seeing these anti-gay politicians and religious leaders caught shnorkling the pool boy over and over it kinda makes sense.
" Homophobes should consider a little self-reflection, suggests a new study finding those individuals who are most hostile toward gays and hold strong anti-gay views may themselves have same-sex desires, albeit undercover ones.
The prejudice of homophobia may also stem from authoritarian parents, particularly those with homophobic views as well, the researchers added.
"This study shows that if you are feeling that kind of visceral reaction to an out-group, ask yourself,'Why?'" co-author Richard Ryan, a professor of psychology at the University of Rochester, said in a statement. "Those intense emotions should serve as a call to self-reflection."
The research, published in the April 2012 issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, reveals the nuances of prejudices like homophobia, which can ultimately have dire consequences.[The 10 Most Destructive Human Behaviors]
"Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they are fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth protest too much,'" Ryan told LiveScience. "In addition, it appears that sometimes those who would oppress others have been oppressed themselves, and we can have some compassion for them too, they may be unaccepting of others because they cannot be accepting of themselves.""
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...
{" Homophobes should consider a little self-reflection, suggests a new study finding those individuals who are most hostile toward gays and hold strong anti-gay views may themselves have same-sex desires, albeit undercover ones.}

Gee you mean then that homosexuals have strong desires to be heterosexual, albeit undercover ones? Laughable!

Next insanity?

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#1365 Feb 15, 2013
Yiago wrote:
There have been a bunch of these studies in the last few years. And since we keep seeing these anti-gay politicians and religious leaders caught shnorkling the pool boy over and over it kinda makes sense.
" Homophobes should consider a little self-reflection, suggests a new study finding those individuals who are most hostile toward gays and hold strong anti-gay views may themselves have same-sex desires, albeit undercover ones.
The prejudice of homophobia may also stem from authoritarian parents, particularly those with homophobic views as well, the researchers added.
"This study shows that if you are feeling that kind of visceral reaction to an out-group, ask yourself,'Why?'" co-author Richard Ryan, a professor of psychology at the University of Rochester, said in a statement. "Those intense emotions should serve as a call to self-reflection."
The research, published in the April 2012 issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, reveals the nuances of prejudices like homophobia, which can ultimately have dire consequences.[The 10 Most Destructive Human Behaviors]
"Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they are fearing their own impulses, in a sense they 'doth protest too much,'" Ryan told LiveScience. "In addition, it appears that sometimes those who would oppress others have been oppressed themselves, and we can have some compassion for them too, they may be unaccepting of others because they cannot be accepting of themselves.""
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...
Rejecting same sex marriage isn't homophobia, you don't get to create diagnosis for political opponents. Ad hominem is still a fallacy, even when you cite a University professor and co-author. Same sex marriage is bad because its not reasoned based, it's based on feeling sympathy for a mascot victim group.

Oh, the poor victims of homophobia want to rewrite marriage law for everybody. It would make them feel better.- That's harm to society in general, even though it might help the few.

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#1366 Feb 15, 2013
Nature boy wrote:
Being homosexual is a crime against nature. Homosexual acts are the same as having sex with animals.
Right so is that what you call it when a heterosexual man wants to have anal sex with a female? Or the female that wants to have anal sex with her partner. I think that you may need to pick up a book or 2 before you put what little 2 cents you have about the subject. I think that a handful of people would agree with me on that one.

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#1367 Feb 15, 2013
Nature boy wrote:
Being homosexual is a crime against nature. Homosexual acts are the same as having sex with animals.
Again and just for the record this is about Human Rights and the fact that there shouldn't be 2 classes of citizens in this country.
Yeah

Butler, KY

#1368 Feb 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Real gay rights mean human rights, the right to simple human dignity, to be treated like everyone else. Once you ignore that right and create novel special rights to redefine marriage law for everyone, you step off the path of civilization.
This may be the best of your posts that I have read.

The government doesn't grant respect or dignity and the government can do nothing to nullify my marriage.

This entire shame is a money maker for democrat politics just like the pro-life carrot that the republicans dangle for votes and money.

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#1369 Feb 16, 2013
Thank you.

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#1370 Feb 16, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
{" Homophobes should consider a little self-reflection, suggests a new study finding those individuals who are most hostile toward gays and hold strong anti-gay views may themselves have same-sex desires, albeit undercover ones.}
Gee you mean then that homosexuals have strong desires to be heterosexual, albeit undercover ones? Laughable!
Next insanity?
I don't know. If a gay man wanted to limit/deny rights to a straight man then perhaps he is a closet straight.

One study doesn't prove anything. But when you do multiple studies and they all lean in a certain direction you are starting to get a good picture of reality.

So old Shakespeare's words seem to resonate in this case.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#1371 Feb 16, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know. If a gay man wanted to limit/deny rights to a straight man then perhaps he is a closet straight.
One study doesn't prove anything. But when you do multiple studies and they all lean in a certain
I thought that it might be helpful for me to explain why the scripture is always under attack.

You must remember that, the bible will always be attacked! Lets face it, the scripture is always the eternal light that exposes the darkness that attempts to hide itself within the recesses of mens hearts!

And as we continue to see here on topix, men will go to great lengths to conceal their personal darkness!

Although it will always be the scripture that flush them concerning their personal darkness!

This is one of the reasons that Jesus Christ always pushed individuals to go to the word for truth concerning darkness!

Lets take a look at an couple of interesting verses concerning this subject!

2nd Thessalonians 3:1 Finally,[In summation] brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and that it may be glorified,even as it is with you.

2nd Thessalonians 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.[The faith of Jesus Christ]

Here we see that the true heart of any believer is that the word of God may have free course and that it is glorified! This is another great truth that Jesus Christ understood!

In order for individuals to be delivered from their personal darkness and other miladies, it requires that, the entire scripture have free course!

As you will notice here on topix, there are many that would rather deny many the free course of scripture and thereby deny many the deliverance it brings!

This reality was true of Paul's day as well! Jesus Christ, Paul, and others understood that, it is the adherence to all scripture that brings about mans deliverance!

Paul also mention's unreasonable and wicked men in his prayer, that the scripture might have free course!

The word unreasonable means, "Perverse or Truculent Irrational" Truculent means, too be quick to argue or fight!

You see that most clearly here on topix!

For example, the subject of homosexuality will cause many to argue and fight concerning what the bible teaches about Gods condemnation of the behavour!

But on the other hand they accept what scripture teaches concerning love!

Paul here is speaking of individuals that are unreasonable and irrational in their thinking concerning issues that the bible speaks on!

Should all people be loved? Oh there is no question about it!

Does the bible condemn a homosexual lifestyle? Oh there is no question about it!

You see, true christian believers are never Truculent concerning scripture, and that is how you separate the real ones from the fake ones here on topix as well as around the globe!

Jesus said, if ye love me you will do my word! Even the parts you dont agree with.

Above Paul also mentioned wicked men!

The word wicked means, "Lawless, With Out Law, Without a Standard!

Where ever and whenever man deny the scripture, lawlessness ensues!

The scripture forbids stealing, when that scripture is broken, lawlessness ensues! The scripture forbids homosexual behavour, when that scripture is forsaken, sexual immorality ensues!

Jesus said, those that hear my voice will do my word!

We don't line up the word with our lives, we line our lives up with the word!

The bible says that the scripture was written with a pen of iron and the point of a diamond, WOW! Will you have the same resolve as Isaiah?

Isaiah 50:7 For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.[Disappointed in my expectations!]

Again I have not written to be critical.

But the truth of what goes on here on topix concerning those that call themselves Christian must be exposed for what it truly is, Hypocrisy at the highest level!
KELLERMAN

Huntsville, OH

#1372 Feb 16, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought that it might be helpful for me to explain why the scripture is always under attack.
You must remember that, the bible will always be attacked! Lets face it, the scripture is always the eternal light that exposes the darkness that attempts to hide itself within the recesses of mens hearts!
And as we continue to see here on topix, men will go to great lengths to conceal their personal darkness!
Although it will always be the scripture that flush them concerning their personal darkness!
This is one of the reasons that Jesus Christ always pushed individuals to go to the word for truth concerning darkness!
Lets take a look at an couple of interesting verses concerning this subject!
2nd Thessalonians 3:1 Finally,[In summation] brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and that it may be glorified,even as it is with you.
2nd Thessalonians 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.[The faith of Jesus Christ]
Here we see that the true heart of any believer is that the word of God may have free course and that it is glorified! This is another great truth that Jesus Christ understood!
In order for individuals to be delivered from their personal darkness and other miladies, it requires that, the entire scripture have free course!
As you will notice here on topix, there are many that would rather deny many the free course of scripture and thereby deny many the deliverance it brings!
This reality was true of Paul's day as well! Jesus Christ, Paul, and others understood that, it is the adherence to all scripture that brings about mans deliverance!
Paul also mention's unreasonable and wicked men in his prayer, that the scripture might have free course!
The word unreasonable means, "Perverse or Truculent Irrational" Truculent means, too be quick to argue or fight!
You see that most clearly here on topix!
For example, the subject of homosexuality will cause many to argue and fight concerning what the bible teaches about Gods condemnation of the behavour!
But on the other hand they accept what scripture teaches concerning love!
Paul here is speaking of individuals that are unreasonable and irrational in their thinking concerning issues that the bible speaks on!
Should all people be loved? Oh there is no question about it!
Does the bible condemn a homosexual lifestyle? Oh there is no question about it!
You see, true christian believers are never Truculent concerning scripture, and that is how you separate the real ones from the fake ones here on topix as well as around the globe!
Jesus said, if ye love me you will do my word! Even the parts you dont agree with.
Above Paul also mentioned wicked men!
The word wicked means, "Lawless, With Out Law, Without a Standard!
Where ever and whenever man deny the scripture, lawlessness ensues!
The scripture forbids stealing, when that scripture is broken, lawlessness ensues! The scripture forbids homosexual behavour, when that scripture is forsaken, sexual immorality ensues!
Jesus said, those that hear my voice will do my word!
We don't line up the word with our lives, we line our lives up with the word!
The bible says that the scripture was written with a pen of iron and the point of a diamond, WOW! Will you have the same resolve as Isaiah?
Isaiah 50:7 For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.[Disappointed in my expectations!]
Again I have not written to be critical.
But the truth of what goes on here on topix concerning those that call themselves Christian must be exposed for what it truly is, Hypocrisy at the highest level!
I would feel safer around street thugs than someone of your sort. I find your words dangerous to mental health.

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#1373 Feb 16, 2013
Most same sex marriage supporters don't understand the words but rely on the feelings of being inclusive, tolerant, enlightened, sympathetic and fair. The words scare them worse than street thugs.

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#1374 Feb 16, 2013
Paul was probably gay. He seemed to really like the company of men and he definitely hated women.

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