Obama-Marriage Debate - Round Lake, IL

[Bellevue Resident]

God made Adam & Eve, NOT Adam & Steve.....don't believe me, then look it up in the Bible.......Obama just lost my vote!

[Jimmy Fidget]

i don't think god really cares about gays that much and he'd rather you do something productive and helpful with your time on earth rather than post soundbites on an internet forum read by at most 20 people.

[Rounded]

Jimmy Fidget wrote:

i don't think god really cares about gays that much and he'd rather you do something productive and helpful with your time on earth rather than post soundbites on an internet forum read by at most 20 people.

so you speak for God? you changed what he had written in the bible?

[TimetoStop]

Matthew 7
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother,‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."

[figures]

If we're going to get all biblical here, we must be consistent. We need to start executing anyone who eats shellfish (Red Lobster is going to be really unhappy), and anyone out there wearing a cotton/poly blend tshirt, you also need to die. The bible states that you may not wear multiple fibers. Just a small illustration of how deeply stupid it is to use a 1900 year old group of man made manuscripts to justify your hatred and intolerance for people who aren't like you. Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, but he certainly said, "Do unto others....etc".

[brandon]

obviously

[agofcaunigne]

we no longer live under the old testament; The laws of Leviticus are no longer valid in todays world. I know the sitcom "West Wing" used it to ridicule a christian among them, and many homo followers rejoiced; but they were ignorant of Gods laws as all hollywood movie producers usually are; we have a new testament to live under:

2CO 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which IS ABOLISHED:
2CO 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2CO 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
2CO 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

unfortunately in the new testament, God again condemns homosexuality in the entire first chapter of Romans.

Why do millions of Americans hold the belief that it is wrong to criticize another's lifestyle? Perhaps because they aren't thinking clearly about the implications. Perhaps they don't understand how such an attitude, in working its way into national policy, has the potential to affect their lives by harming society at large. Americans are facing the swelling ranks of AIDS cases—in America, research collected way back in June 2001, indicates more than 457,000 have died due to AIDS or AIDS-related illness. That is almost five times the U.S. casualty figure of the entire ten-year Vietnam war. Approximately 460,000 more live with AIDS or are HIV infected. In the U.S. alone, 793,026 AIDS cases were reported. In light of such figures, not one person can afford the luxury of remaining indifferent to same-sex marriage or sexual permissiveness of any kind.

AIDS represents the most devastating epidemic in human history.... Over the past two decades, more than 60 million people have been infected with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). Worldwide,[AIDS] is the fourth-biggest killer. At the end of 2001, an estimated 40 million people were living with HIV. Of the estimated 5 million people who became infected in 2001, about half were young people between the ages of 15 and 24.

both the Christian church and society do great harm to people—homosexuals and heterosexuals—when they actively promote the cause of homosexuality in America.

JohnAnkerberg.org

[RLP]

agofcaunigne wrote:

we no longer live under the old testament; The laws of Leviticus are no longer valid in todays world. I know the sitcom "West Wing" used it to ridicule a christian among them, and many homo followers rejoiced; but they were ignorant of Gods laws as all hollywood movie producers usually are; we have a new testament to live under:
2CO 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which IS ABOLISHED:
2CO 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2CO 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
2CO 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
unfortunately in the new testament, God again condemns homosexuality in the entire first chapter of Romans.
Why do millions of Americans hold the belief that it is wrong to criticize another's lifestyle? Perhaps because they aren't thinking clearly about the implications. Perhaps they don't understand how such an attitude, in working its way into national policy, has the potential to affect their lives by harming society at large. Americans are facing the swelling ranks of AIDS cases—in America, research collected way back in June 2001, indicates more than 457,000 have died due to AIDS or AIDS-related illness. That is almost five times the U.S. casualty figure of the entire ten-year Vietnam war. Approximately 460,000 more live with AIDS or are HIV infected. In the U.S. alone, 793,026 AIDS cases were reported. In light of such figures, not one person can afford the luxury of remaining indifferent to same-sex marriage or sexual permissiveness of any kind.
AIDS represents the most devastating epidemic in human history.... Over the past two decades, more than 60 million people have been infected with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). Worldwide,[AIDS] is the fourth-biggest killer. At the end of 2001, an estimated 40 million people were living with HIV. Of the estimated 5 million people who became infected in 2001, about half were young people between the ages of 15 and 24.
both the Christian church and society do great harm to people—homosexuals and heterosexuals—when they actively promote the cause of homosexuality in America.
JohnAnkerberg.org

Texas. Figures. Keep your bible thumping bigotry down there, where it belongs.

[SHIF]

•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Homosexuality is clearly condemned by the Bible. It goes against the created order of God who created Adam, a man, and then made Eve, a woman. This is what God has ordained as the normal means by which we carry out his command to fill the earth (Gen. 1:28). What God has set up is what is right -- not what sinful man sets up.

[RLP]

SHIF wrote:

•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
Homosexuality is clearly condemned by the Bible. It goes against the created order of God who created Adam, a man, and then made Eve, a woman. This is what God has ordained as the normal means by which we carry out his command to fill the earth (Gen. 1:28). What God has set up is what is right -- not what sinful man sets up.

Take your bible and shove it. Have a nice day.