Obama-Marriage Debate - Oklahoma City, OK

Discuss the national Obama-Marriage debate in Oklahoma City, OK.

Are you with President Obama in supporting gay marriage?

Oklahoma City is with Obama on gay marriage.
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Since: Dec 11

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#831 Feb 13, 2013
Pollster wrote:
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Homosexual marriage is like imitation vanilla.
But after all isn't the entire homosexual lifestyle one big imitation after another? A lie stuffed into a lie stuffed into a lie.
You're not actually giving a reason. You're just restating your claim.
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#832 Feb 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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You're not actually giving a reason. You're just restating your claim.
Homosexuals, the fathers of all lies!

1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.

[but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.]

All homosexual sodomy is a sexual sin committed against a mans body! Because it is outside of the scope that God intended for sexual pleasure! God has set specific boundary's for all sexual behavior! All Homosexual sexual practices are clearly built upon lies concerning these great boundary! We know from the scripture that one of the reasons that homosexuals have so many different partners is because, homosexual sodomy was not designed to sexually satisfy a man! Homosexual sodomy leaves man sexually unfulfilled! And that's another reason the scripture says here that, he who sins sexually sins against his own body! Too sin sexually is to use your body to engage in sex with a sexual partner your body and genitalia was not created for!

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

What a beautiful verse used here to show what God intended marriage to be! In the original Greek, the word defiled means…..not defiled, unsoiled, and free from that by which the nature of a thing is deformed and debased, or its force and vigor impaired. Marriage is honorable in all. The object here is to state that honor is to be shown to the marriage relation. It is not to be undervalued by the pretense of the superior purity of a state of celibacy! The lie of homosexual marriage attempts to dirty what God has established! Two men involved in homosexual sodomy defile the marriage bed! So does polygamy! Although some homosexuals here support this most destructive sexual device! I will continue to show how and why The scripture considers the homosexual the father of all lies! It is truly a never ending list, with lies stuffed within lies!

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#833 Feb 13, 2013
Pollster wrote:
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Homosexuals, the fathers of all lies!
Your best "reason" is that it goes against your religious mythology? That's weak.

The Bible supports slavery and rape. Why accept its teachings on homosexuality?
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#834 Feb 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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You're not actually giving a reason. You're just restating your claim.
Simply the truth!

This child was given birth based entirely upon a host of homosexual lies, moral corruption, financial corruption, and a host of other corruptions all promulgated via lying homosexuals and the perversion they promote! They don't like being exposed for what they really are! They support these monsters and what they did to this child!

In Luke 17:1-2 Jesus declares that “offenses will come,” but then adds,“but woe be to the one who cause offenses”.

In Matthew 18:1-10 we learn that Jesus particularly warns individuals of the dire consequences that will befall those who offend little children or young Christians!

As we consider this great atrocity that has been perpetrated against this child, we must naturally place the child's lifelong welfare and emotions first! Although when a person considers what really went on behind the scenes, one realizes that this child's future was never considered in terms of negative personal and emotional pain! As a individual looks at who the players were that, participated in this most Frankenstein of concepts, they become very aware of the fact that there were mainly four monsters involved in this lab experiment, that created this experimental child!

[1] The Elton John monster!

[2] The David Furnish monster!

[3] The Biological monster that provided the egg!

[4] The Surrogate monster that accepted the biological monsters egg!

Clearly this whole experiment that was hatched in Frankenstein's lab, was given birth based upon several personal interests at several different levels! It would be hard to identify who the chief monster was, given so many were involved! This child was clearly brought into this world based upon mans selfishness and greed! No thought, no love, no concern, no consideration for the well-being of this child was ever considered! Everyone involved got something, at the expense of the child, and with the exception of the child! Clearly the Biological and Surrogate monsters were well paid for their participation in this corrupt experiment! The other two monsters involvement was clearly driven via selfishness and corruption, driven by a desire to posses something that, because of the corrupt lifestyle both monsters have chosen to in-gauge in! God, by his wisdom and consideration for the well-being of all children has denied them! And now there is a child that one day will grow to become a very troubled and tortured soul, as the child comes too the true realization of how and why it was created, and the monsters involved in its creation! Many of whom will remain anonymous through out the child's lifetime! Jesus Christ said that there would be offenses and atrocities brought about by man and perpetrated upon children! He also said, God help the individuals that commits these offenses and atrocities against children! You may laugh and scoff and twist as you sit upon the sidelines of life! But some day there will be Godly justice for this child and the helpless! The eternal wheels of Gods justice may grind slowly, but they grind finely! There is also a fifth monster involved in this Frankenstein experiment! And its name is, Homosexual Ideology!

Since: Dec 11

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#835 Feb 13, 2013
Pollster wrote:
Although when a person considers what really went on behind the scenes, one realizes that this child's future was never considered in terms of negative personal and emotional pain!
Equal outcomes.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#836 Feb 13, 2013
box just admit when you are outclassed. Just give up and climb out your basement and find employment so the rest of us will quit having to support you.
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#837 Feb 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Equal outcomes.
Homosexual- Homosexual pedophiles.

Things equal to each other are equal to the same thing!

Next?
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#838 Feb 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Your best "reason" is that it goes against your religious mythology? That's weak.
The Bible supports slavery and rape. Why accept its teachings on homosexuality?
{Why accept its teachings on homosexuality?}

Why accept its teachings on thou shall not judge?

Next?

Since: Dec 11

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#839 Feb 13, 2013
Pollster wrote:
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Homosexual- Homosexual pedophiles.
Things equal to each other are equal to the same thing!
Next?
Those things aren't equal to each other.

The outcomes of children of gay parents and straight parents are.

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#840 Feb 13, 2013
antiatheist wrote:
box just admit when you are outclassed. Just give up and climb out your basement and find employment so the rest of us will quit having to support you.
Antiatheist, just admit you have nothing to contribute to this conversation or anything in this world.

You are a zero.

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#841 Feb 13, 2013
Pollster wrote:
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{Why accept its teachings on homosexuality?}
Why accept its teachings on thou shall not judge?
Next?
Why accept its teachings on anything?
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#842 Feb 13, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Why accept its teachings on anything?
Definition of IMITATION:

1: an act or instance of imitating

2: something produced as a copy : counterfeit.

3: the assumption of behavior observed in other individuals

As one considers and compares the homosexual with all other humans.

There is no question that the homosexual is the only human that has in fact, created a perception of who and what they would like others to believe they are.

People of color have not done this.

People of other ethnicity's have not done this.

Everything the homosexual portrays themselves to be, is fabricated!

Yes, It is all an imitation!

Unlike people of color, the homosexual still remains a stranger to themselves!

No one in all of recorded history. Has spent so much, lied so much, twisted so much, distorted so much, destroyed so much. In an attempt to create a perception, of who they would like others to believe they are!

In short, the whole homosexual lifestyle is an imitation. Based upon unproven and unknown concepts unknown to mankind since antoquity!

Homosexual concepts that have destroyed parents, family's and acquaintances the world over.

But most of all, it has destroyed the homosexual themselves and their potential for greatness. As they had the potential to contribute to the advancement of humanity and proper norms resident within every human!

The purpose of mankind is to advance civilizations, it is not to create an imitation civilization.

No homosexual can propagate any civilization in its truest sense.

All homosexual propagation is only artificial. And all natural forms of propagation become only, an propagation based strictly upon imitation and slight of hand!

All homosexuality is driven by an individuals willingness to abandon their natural inclinations, concerning right and proper conduct. And right and proper sexual conduct!

All homosexuality confuses unchanging moral values with changing moral practices. That is, it confuses morals with mores. And it confuses Gods moral command with our relative comprehension of it!

And if the entire civilization was homosexual, all civilizations would self destruct!

And the argument that homosexuality is a private matter, will not negate the truths I am setting forth.

The argument that domestic violence and drunkenness is a private matter makes as much sense!

Labeling something private never negates the destructive nature of it to an individual or to a nation.

Also moving a corrupt behavour from a public arena to a private location. Does not change the violation of the moral laws involved.

God gave man great freedom and freedom of will.

God also gave man emotions.

So, What part does emotions play as man makes choice's concerning his sexual conduct?

They serve him in many ways. But the greatest service is the protection they provide to his emotional state.

And as one ignores those emotional signals and those protections, it can and does lead to bad places at times.

And this is true of homosexuality, domestic violence, drunkenness and a whole host of other issues.

And emotion has no bias!

And the belief that homosexuality is natural, is a denial of those warning bells, called emotion.

And there is no greater emotional turmoil then living a lie and ignoring those warnings!

Looking everyday in the mirror and realizing your entire life is based upon an series of lies and denials, a fabrication, an imitation.

Once again I have not written to be critical. But the truth must be told!

Truth is good, truth delivers!

No individual can remain an stranger to themselves and enjoy life!

Psalm 50:15 And call on Me in the day of trouble; I will deliver you, and you shall honor and glorify Me.

Of all the needs of man, their greatest need is to feel loved! But when hope in God is ignored, the reality of feeling loved is lost!

TVOSW
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#843 Feb 13, 2013
box its so apparent you are a moron. Stop wasting your time and start attending GED classes.
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#845 Feb 16, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Your best "reason" is that it goes against your religious mythology? That's weak.
The Bible supports slavery and rape. Why accept its teachings on homosexuality
I thought that it might be helpful for me to explain why the scripture is always under attack.

You must remember that, the bible will always be attacked! Lets face it, the scripture is always the eternal light that exposes the darkness that attempts to hide itself within the recesses of mens hearts!

And as we continue to see here on topix, men will go to great lengths to conceal their personal darkness!

Although it will always be the scripture that flush them concerning their personal darkness!

This is one of the reasons that Jesus Christ always pushed individuals to go to the word for truth concerning darkness!

Lets take a look at an couple of interesting verses concerning this subject!

2nd Thessalonians 3:1 Finally,[In summation] brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and that it may be glorified,even as it is with you.

2nd Thessalonians 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.[The faith of Jesus Christ]

Here we see that the true heart of any believer is that the word of God may have free course and that it is glorified! This is another great truth that Jesus Christ understood!

In order for individuals to be delivered from their personal darkness and other miladies, it requires that, the entire scripture have free course!

As you will notice here on topix, there are many that would rather deny many the free course of scripture and thereby deny many the deliverance it brings!

This reality was true of Paul's day as well! Jesus Christ, Paul, and others understood that, it is the adherence to all scripture that brings about mans deliverance!

Paul also mention's unreasonable and wicked men in his prayer, that the scripture might have free course!

The word unreasonable means, "Perverse or Truculent Irrational" Truculent means, too be quick to argue or fight!

You see that most clearly here on topix!

For example, the subject of homosexuality will cause many to argue and fight concerning what the bible teaches about Gods condemnation of the behavour!

But on the other hand they accept what scripture teaches concerning love!

Paul here is speaking of individuals that are unreasonable and irrational in their thinking concerning issues that the bible speaks on!

Should all people be loved? Oh there is no question about it!

Does the bible condemn a homosexual lifestyle? Oh there is no question about it!

You see, true christian believers are never Truculent concerning scripture, and that is how you separate the real ones from the fake ones here on topix as well as around the globe!

Jesus said, if ye love me you will do my word! Even the parts you dont agree with.

Above Paul also mentioned wicked men!

The word wicked means, "Lawless, With Out Law, Without a Standard!

Where ever and whenever man deny the scripture, lawlessness ensues!

The scripture forbids stealing, when that scripture is broken, lawlessness ensues! The scripture forbids homosexual behavour, when that scripture is forsaken, sexual immorality ensues!

Jesus said, those that hear my voice will do my word!

We don't line up the word with our lives, we line our lives up with the word!

The bible says that the scripture was written with a pen of iron and the point of a diamond, WOW! Will you have the same resolve as Isaiah?

Isaiah 50:7 For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.[Disappointed in my expectations!]

Again I have not written to be critical.

But the truth of what goes on here on topix concerning those that call themselves Christian must be exposed for what it truly is, Hypocrisy at the highest level!
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#846 Feb 17, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Why accept its teachings on anything?
An illusion is a distortion of the senses, revealing how the brain normally organizes and interprets information. While illusions distort reality, they are generally shared by most people willing to accept them.

And this is especially true of homosexual lies that continue to be fed to the U.S. populace.

And one of the most dominate lies spread via the homosexual. Is the lie that homosexuals are born homosexual. When in fact homosexuals are actually born liars, not born homosexual. AS we shall continue to see as this thread progresses.

And there is no doubt that we all live in a world that things are seldom called what they in fact are. And homosexuals are no exception to this rule.

And as I have shown, homosexuals are very adapt at changing and creating nomenclature that continues to show them in a more positive light. But as I have also shown, this is all part of the illusion being sold to America.

Naturally the homosexual has created so many different illusions that, it would be impossible for me to cover them all in one thread.

And you must remember that the homosexual has had years to hone their craft of lies and illusions. As well as years to soften the U.S culture to accept many of their lies and illusions.

The homosexual has transformed themselves from chains and black leather, to Armani suits and Louis Vuitton shoes.

But when all is said and done, the homosexual remains a born liar. And no suit and shoes can ever change that.

As the homosexual spin doctors continue to twist HIV-aids to make it appear that homosexuals play no to little part in the proliferation of the disease. The CDC stats concerning this and the cost to tax payers proves quite a different story.

I think few stop and consider the great amount of cover that the U.S. populace provides to the homosexual as they indiscriminately spread their poison within a culture. And it continues to be this blended poison that continues to be paid for via the unsuspecting U.S. tax payer that is slowly and indiscriminately weakening the social and culture norms that have served this once great nation.

Much of society fails to recognize this cancer for what it truly is. Homosexuality is much like the cancer that is resident within the human body. Its devastating consequences are found out and discovered after the eternal damage is done. The devastation of homosexuality within a culture continues to chip away at the health of a nation. Much like cancer chips away at the human body. And although cancer victims are always innocent and unaware, homosexuals are not.

While homosexuals have actively suppressed statistics in the past and focused on portraying HIV/AIDS as a disease affecting the whole population in an equal fashion, the statistics' increasing and understandably has forced their hand. Rather than admit any inherent problem with homosexual practice itself, however, the apparent prevalence of disease among practicing homosexuals has led them to switch tactics and use these statistics to urge governments and other organizations to increase support to the homosexual communities. More waste of U.S. tax dollars.

"By recently admitting that 'HIV is a gay disease,' Matt Foreman, outgoing Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, acknowledged what the medical community has known for decades: the homosexual lifestyle is extremely high-risk and often leads to disease and even death."

Homosexuals have learned through experience to always change their tactics and adapt. Much like the cancer that hides within the human body undetected.

Yes the homosexual has become the great illusionist of the day. And constantly adapts his method's of pulling the new polished homosexual out of the hat. And bewitching all that watch.

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#847 Feb 17, 2013
Pollster wrote:
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I thought that it might be helpful for me to explain why the scripture is always under attack.
You must remember that, the bible will always be attacked! Lets face it, the scripture is always the eternal light that exposes the darkness that attempts to hide itself within the recesses of mens hearts!
It's under attack because it's garbage. That's why you can't even defend it. You only response is to call people "haters".

Again, the Bible supports slavery and rape. Why listen to it about homosexuality? It has no credibility.
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#848 Feb 17, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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It's under attack because it's garbage. That's why you can't even defend it. You only response is to call people "haters".
Again, the Bible supports slavery and rape. Why listen to it about homosexuality? It has no credibility.
Obama has clearly told the African Americans to stand at the back of the bus as the homosexuals sit. What a disgrace! At least the true civil rights movement had merit and dignity as its foundation. Homosexuality is not a civil rights issue. Homosexuality lacks merit, and dignity to say the least. There is no deeper stain within the soul of humanity then the degradation of homosexual sodomy. For one man to submit to the brutal sexual assault of another is so deep that it scars the individual to the core of their being for life. Not to mention the constant gutting they bring to their parents. Many of which go to their grave eternally broken and emotionally destroyed. No wonder God has condemned it for all time!
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#849 Feb 17, 2013
The_Box wrote:
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Those things aren't equal to each other.
The outcomes of children of gay parents and straight parents are.
I do not believe that it can be over stated that children as adults also enjoy Constitutional rights as well as the bill of rights afforded them.

Children's rights are the human rights of children with particular attention to the rights of special protection and care afforded to the young.

Including their right to association with both biological parents, human identity as well as the basic needs for food, universal state-paid education, health care and criminal laws appropriate for the age and development of the child.

Interpretations of children's rights range from allowing children the capacity for autonomous action to the enforcement of children being physically, mentally and emotionally free from abuse, though what constitutes "abuse" is a matter of debate. Other definitions include the rights to care and nurturing etc.

Homosexuals produce no offspring! They are forced to obtain children based solely upon the personal private purpose of inessential parenthood!

All homosexual adoption is totally inessential because it places the child last, it denies the child male-female parents which are essential as to whats best for the child!

All homosexual adaption best serves the private purposes of the homosexual to fit in, not the child!

“Put the X Back in X-Mas.”

Since: Feb 08

Norman, Oklahoma

#850 Feb 18, 2013
Pollster wrote:
2nd Thessalonians 3:2
And this is how we all know that you're pretty much done. When you ran out of false and broken science to try and support your bigotry, you reverted to the same religious doggerel that you were trying to hide from the beginning.
antiatheist

Seminole, OK

#851 Feb 18, 2013
oh please no not michael allred. He can't even put together a few sentences without using the word "bigot". You are a left wing, liberal robot. Crawl back down to your basement.

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