Obama-Marriage Debate - Oklahoma City, OK

Discuss the national Obama-Marriage debate in Oklahoma City, OK.

Are you with President Obama in supporting gay marriage?

Oklahoma City is with Obama on gay marriage.
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Feb 11, 2013
 
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Transforming-Verb: To make a thorough or dramatic change in the form, appearance, or character of.

As one studies the homosexual movement in America. There is absolutely no doubt that the entire homosexual transformation is a complete and total facade.

And all designed to give the illusion of normalcy to the homosexual.

And every natural culture norm has been skewed, tweaked and distorted in an attempt to squeeze the homosexual into the American culture.

Homosexuals cannot have children, which means they cannot be considered a family.

Therefore every natural culture norm has been skewed, tweaked and distorted. In an attempt to make the homosexual into the American family as they adopt children. Or have a child created in an attempt to portray themselves as a family. Another attempt to transform them into American culture. But it is all just another facade.

All homosexual adoption is built upon the false premise that children are to be given to homosexuals based upon nothing more then the private purpose to obtain. Based upon the desire for that which one, because of the choices they have made forbids them children by a natural and Godly means!

All homosexual adoption is based upon the homosexuals desire to posses children for a private purpose rather then what is actually best for the child!

Homosexual adoption is nothing more then a slight of hand trick carried out via the state to shift the adoption of children from an essential purpose of society, to the inessential private purpose of the homosexual! As a means to complete their transformation into the American culture.

Homosexuals adopting, like a rainbow is an optical illusion. As a rainbow has no actual end point. And there is really no end point to homosexual adoption. Other then to complete the transformation of the homosexual into the American culture.

Homosexual marriage is also another created reality. And this to has has been skewed, tweaked and distorted in an attempt to squeeze the homosexual into the American culture. Another facade created to put a normal transformation face upon marriage, another natural culture norm.

A government definition of marriage between two homosexuals strikes against the beauty and virtue of what we know as healthy societal norms for all involved.

Homosexual marriage provides no strength, benefits, or usefulness to any future generation's.

At best, all homosexual marriage is self-serving providing nothing of benefit to society as a whole.

All civilizations have derived their stability and longevity since antiquity. Based solely upon the enduring truth that family has perpetuated itself and culture in a true, natural and Godly form.

In order for all natural civilizations to flourish and remain true, those civilizations must be supported via the natural family and not the individual, nor a government created definition of what a natural family is.

And the husband-wife still provide the best soil to produce all future, and virtuous children as all societal norms flourish and propagate themselves.

As societal norms are destroyed, societies are also destroyed from within.

And all attempts to transform sound norms into unsound norms. Will only weaken the nation that attempts to do such.

Right and proper conduct is necessary in order to sustain a civil and prospers society.

No nation can sip honey laced with poison and avoid emotional and moral sickness.

Much of the violence we see today is in reality, symptoms of a host of emotional and moral honey laced poison.

And the entire homosexual agenda has done much to confuse, distort and destroy good Godly norms that have served our nation well.

We have become a very very morally sick nation.

A nation in desperate need of men and women willing to stand up. And speak up for those good and Godly principles that have served our nation. And the children of our nation.

I have not written to be critical, but the truth of what is really going on must be told.

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Feb 11, 2013
 
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Let me ask you an honest and simple question?
How does it really feel to wake up every morning and no that you have gutted your parents emotionally. To look in the mirror and know that your whole life is a lie. And to know that every nuance has been twisted, contorted, and distorted to give you a sense of normalcy?
None of those things are true.

Why the need to change the topic? Because you know all the evidence is against you?
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Feb 11, 2013
 
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None of those things are true.
Why the need to change the topic? Because you know all the evidence is against you?
Look its bad enough that you gutted your parents. Just be still!

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Feb 11, 2013
 
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Look its bad enough that you gutted your parents. Just be still!
How did I "gut" my parents, Pollster?
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Feb 11, 2013
 
oh man.......pollster is taking box out to the wood shed. Hilarious
Pollster

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Feb 12, 2013
 
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How did I "gut" my parents, Pollster?
No doubt much of the arguments presented to the SCOTUS against SSM {Same Sex Marriage} will have many of the nuances concerning marriage and its benefits to society.

And in my own personal view of scripture and understanding of culture norms as a whole.

I believe if the SCOTUS legalizes SSM it will have a devastating impact upon all future generation's.

I believe it would eclipse Roe v Wade in terms of negative impact upon not only the U.S. but the entire world civilization.

And I am still left to consider Scriptures declarations concerning the last days. And the perversion that will come with those last days.

1st Timothy 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God has created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

Could the SCOTUS abolish all marriage?

I dont know, I am still thinking about it within the scope of scripture.

Matthew 10:15 Truly I say to you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.

It is interesting that Jesus references Sodom and Gomorrah in-light of the last days.

And we know that the homosexuals were responsible for the collapse and destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Will they actually bring this prophecy into concretion?

I dont know, I am just trying to understand this stuff.
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Feb 12, 2013
 
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None of those things are true.
Why the need to change the topic? Because you know all the evidence is against you?
"consenting adult" does not make it ok.

Adults consent to do a lot of things, that is no justification to engage in sexual perversion.

Adults consent to rob banks, that is no justification for robbing banks.

Your argument is moot!

Adults consent to a public orgy.

And moving an orgy to a private location does not change the fact that an orgy is corrupt behavior, like homosexuality.

What homosexuals do behind closed door does not make homosexuality ok.

People plan kidnappings behind closed doors, that does not make it ok.
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Feb 12, 2013
 
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None of those things are true.
Why the need to change the topic? Because you know all the evidence is against you?
Why all the violence?

All societal norms continue to be skewed from the proliferation of homosexuality/lesbianism taught to school children, Polygamy, division within the home, out of wedlock births, mothers/fathers absent, children farmed out to homosexuals, no female role model, rampant welfare, gambling, lotto, alcohol, dope, reality TV, homosexual, lesbian, heterosexual domestic violence, unlimited access to the internet, homosexual pedophile priest, unlimited,unsupervised access to violent video imagery, a sense of discord/divisiveness within all culture, law enforce ridiculed, atheist frivolous law suits to remove culture norms, all Christian organizations under attack, gender selection abortions.

Attempting to redefine marriage which removes the purpose and benefits that heterosexual marriage provides to children and to a society, in an attempt to shift the essential needs of marriage and family to a culture, to the inessential needs of the single homosexual. These are just for starters as to why there is such violence. Blame the liberal adults!
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Feb 12, 2013
 
box?????? cat got your tongue????

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Feb 12, 2013
 
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oh man.......pollster is taking box out to the wood shed. Hilarious
Yup, you win an argument when you ignore everything the other person says and tell them their parents hate them.

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Feb 12, 2013
 
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Matthew 10:15 Truly I say to you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.
It is interesting that Jesus references Sodom and Gomorrah in-light of the last days.
And we know that the homosexuals were responsible for the collapse and destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Matthew 10:15 is about towns that are inhospitable, AND it's not about the last days.

Read your own mythology.

Also, you never answered my question. How did I gut my parents?

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"consenting adult" does not make it ok.
Adults consent to do a lot of things, that is no justification to engage in sexual perversion.
Adults consent to rob banks, that is no justification for robbing banks.
Banks don't consent to being robbed. If they did, it would be a withdrawal, not a robbery.

You win the award for dumbest analogy of the month. Congrats!

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Feb 12, 2013
 
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Why all the violence?
What violence? Violent crime has been going down for decades.

You can't handle that fact because it doesn't fit your "everything was better in the old days when Christianity ran everything" nostalgia.
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Feb 12, 2013
 
box you are WEAK.
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Banks don't consent to being robbed. If they did, it would be a withdrawal, not a robbery.
You win the award for dumbest analogy of the month. Congrats!
marriage:

1. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms: separation.

b. a similar institution involving partners of the same gender: gay marriage. Antonyms: separation.

Similar?

Once again the whole corrupt concept of gay marriage is nothing but a total facade. All tweaked, twisted and contorted to appear normal and valid.

Based upon a total fabrication and lie!

Similar?

When you think of gay marriage, think of artificial vanilla!

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Feb 12, 2013
 
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marriage:
1. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms: separation.
b. a similar institution involving partners of the same gender: gay marriage. Antonyms: separation.
Similar?
Yes, they're virtually identical.
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Feb 12, 2013
 
oh man.....you are going to make box cry.
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Feb 13, 2013
 
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Yes, they're virtually identical.
Not even close.

Heterosexual marriage is like vanilla flavoring made from real genuine vanilla beans.

Homosexual marriage is like imitation vanilla.

But after all isn't the entire homosexual lifestyle one big imitation after another? A lie stuffed into a lie stuffed into a lie.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
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Not even close.
Why not?
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Feb 13, 2013
 
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Why not?
Homosexual marriage is like imitation vanilla.

But after all isn't the entire homosexual lifestyle one big imitation after another? A lie stuffed into a lie stuffed into a lie.

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