Obama-Marriage Debate - Elizabethtown, KY

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mmmmeeeee

Elizabethtown, KY

#1 May 12, 2012
homosexuality is a sin, period.
FYI

Elizabethtown, KY

#2 May 12, 2012
Yes, it is a sin according to YOUR version of YOUR religion, which should never, ever, ever, be the inspiration for laws that will effect EVERYONE.
Equal Rights

Radcliff, KY

#3 May 12, 2012
Religion has nothing to do with Government. and if you think God hates homosexuals you're wrong and a bigot
So true

Nashville, TN

#4 May 12, 2012
FYI wrote:
Yes, it is a sin according to YOUR version of YOUR religion, which should never, ever, ever, be the inspiration for laws that will effect EVERYONE.
Well said.
So true

Nashville, TN

#5 May 12, 2012
We are not here to judge. God gave us each the will to live life as we see fit. May not be Your way but it is not our place to say. It's between them and God.
Dee Sapp

Leitchfield, KY

#6 May 13, 2012
Read the Bible.
ky girl

Guston, KY

#7 May 13, 2012
God does not hate homosexuals, He hates homosexuality. There's a huge difference!
FYI

Elizabethtown, KY

#8 May 13, 2012
ky girl wrote:
God does not hate homosexuals, He hates homosexuality. There's a huge difference!
God does not hate black people, he hates dark skin. There's a huge difference!
ky girl

Guston, KY

#9 May 13, 2012
FYI wrote:
<quoted text>
God does not hate black people, he hates dark skin. There's a huge difference!
That's not funny, nor is it the same thing at all.
Both movements- same

Clarkson, KY

#10 May 13, 2012
ky girl wrote:
<quoted text>
That's not funny, nor is it the same thing at all.
It is very much the same thing.
God - "Hey there "John Doe", I don't hate you THAT much. Just enough to send you to eternal hellfire and suffering over something you have no control over. But hey, at least I tried to get you to deny what you felt and live a life of misery and self hate. But are we cool?. Oh, BTW, The money basket is by the church door now. Just don't draw rainbows on it! LOL".
The fact is:Nobody denies the existence of our President and members of congress. We know they exist, unlike 2000+ year old superstitious dogma.
Who should get priority?. Fact is, America was created on freedom of religion, which includes freedom FROM it and not getting stoned because you weren't a virgin at marriage like the Bible says people should do to you.
Or, do you block that part out?. That's not healthy!.
Seriously, church and state should always be separate. If we mix the two any more, we'll get the Western equivalent of Saudi Arabia.
And it's not like anybody's asking you to accept marriage equality. Just not denying people the freedom of marriage(Which is older than your faith) because some book written about a psychopathic toddler in the sky with sand in his ice cream that nobody will ever be able to prove or disprove.
Get real, K?.
Both movements- same

Clarkson, KY

#11 May 13, 2012
Sorry, Topix messed up my formatting so now it looks like one sentence :P
same old stuff

Texarkana, TX

#12 May 13, 2012
Both movements- same wrote:
<quoted text>
It is very much the same thing.
God - "Hey there "John Doe", I don't hate you THAT much. Just enough to send you to eternal hellfire and suffering over something you have no control over. But hey, at least I tried to get you to deny what you felt and live a life of misery and self hate. But are we cool?. Oh, BTW, The money basket is by the church door now. Just don't draw rainbows on it! LOL".
The fact is:Nobody denies the existence of our President and members of congress. We know they exist, unlike 2000+ year old superstitious dogma.
Who should get priority?. Fact is, America was created on freedom of religion, which includes freedom FROM it and not getting stoned because you weren't a virgin at marriage like the Bible says people should do to you.
Or, do you block that part out?. That's not healthy!.
Seriously, church and state should always be separate. If we mix the two any more, we'll get the Western equivalent of Saudi Arabia.
And it's not like anybody's asking you to accept marriage equality. Just not denying people the freedom of marriage(Which is older than your faith) because some book written about a psychopathic toddler in the sky with sand in his ice cream that nobody will ever be able to prove or disprove.
Get real, K?.
the bible no longer says we should get stoned for not being a virgin. it might have in the OLD days, but the new testament is what chirstians go by. any idiot knows that.

2CO 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2CO 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
2CO 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
so, there is ever reason in the world that christians should block this "dogma" from arbitration.

Also, I've never heard of a psychopathic toddler in the sky with sand in his ice cream. you make this shit up as you go along?? I bet you believe that dinosaurs turned into canaries? that men use to walk on the earth as monkies and whales use to have legs before they decided to abort their evolutionary processes and go back into the sea..... bona fide idiot. wow. whos not real????

But Where’s Mommy? STOP AND CONSIDER THE CHILDREN; It would allow homosexuals the right to adopt children. Since homosexuals cannot have children biologically, they have been pushing for the right to adopt. States have allowed non-married persons to adopt for sometime. Because of this, some homosexuals have been able to adopt by concealing that they are gay.

many homosexual groups are also lobbying for legalized prostitution and the repeal of statutory rape and age of consent laws. This shows the extreme radical philosophy of the homosexual movement, not just to "protect civil rights" but to change society's sexual values.

would you want to grow up in a homosexual atmosphere if you were a child? Having 2 men and no mother as parents?? Not me.

Sure, there are a few supposed studies that prove raising children can be done by same sex partners; but there are also studies that supposedly prove evolution is a real science. Just consider the source and realize that the Associated Press has an agenda also.
Both movements- same

Clarkson, KY

#13 May 13, 2012
same old stuff wrote:
<quoted text>
the bible no longer says we should get stoned for not being a virgin. it might have in the OLD days, but the new testament is what chirstians go by. any idiot knows that.
2CO 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2CO 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
2CO 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
so, there is ever reason in the world that christians should block this "dogma" from arbitration.
Also, I've never heard of a psychopathic toddler in the sky with sand in his ice cream. you make this shit up as you go along?? I bet you believe that dinosaurs turned into canaries? that men use to walk on the earth as monkies and whales use to have legs before they decided to abort their evolutionary processes and go back into the sea..... bona fide idiot. wow. whos not real????
But Where’s Mommy? STOP AND CONSIDER THE CHILDREN; It would allow homosexuals the right to adopt children. Since homosexuals cannot have children biologically, they have been pushing for the right to adopt. States have allowed non-married persons to adopt for sometime. Because of this, some homosexuals have been able to adopt by concealing that they are gay.
many homosexual groups are also lobbying for legalized prostitution and the repeal of statutory rape and age of consent laws. This shows the extreme radical philosophy of the homosexual movement, not just to "protect civil rights" but to change society's sexual values.
would you want to grow up in a homosexual atmosphere if you were a child? Having 2 men and no mother as parents?? Not me.
Sure, there are a few supposed studies that prove raising children can be done by same sex partners; but there are also studies that supposedly prove evolution is a real science. Just consider the source and realize that the Associated Press has an agenda also.
Wow. These arguments again.

Anyways:
1.Christians shouldn't have to toss the OT out of the window. The fact that they do tells one or two things:

1.God's a deranged psychopathic.

2.The Bible was made by a bunch of crazy fanatics trying to control others and explain what no one can.

I'd go with the latter.

2.Nature evolving into other forms makes much more sense than a man in the sky that's "Always been there", knows everything you do, "Loves you", but still has the need for a place of eternal suffering.

If Evolution is too complicated for you, fine. I just have a feeling your parents probably told you there was a man in the refrigerator working the lights because you were too young to understand how one works.

See the similarity?. Choose whichever you like, fine by me. What ever puts less stress on your brain and doesn't take you out of your blanket.

3.No, homosexuals CAN have children. Being homosexual doesn't mean you're infertile. Dumb ass :)

4.I could go on with a Libertarian argument on why there's nothing wrong with consensual prostitution, but instead I'll say:

Saying fanatical homosexual groups represent the majority of LGBT is like saying the Westboro people speak for Jesus himself, or the majority of Christians.

5.Wow. You really went over the Coo-Coo's nest here:

1.You're comparing a social study to a Scientific fact.

2.If you deny evolution, even with it's scientific fact and it's compatibility WITH Christianity(Evolution doesn't address the beginning of the universe), then how can you be flabbergasted when someone doesn't believe your imaginary friend in an ancient book?.

3.Speaking of Science, come back with a satellite photo of a Jewish man sitting on a cloud and then your argument will hold
more weight than evolution and the big bang.
Both movements- same

Clarkson, KY

#14 May 13, 2012
Wow. These arguments again.

Anyways:
1.Christians shouldn't have to toss the OT out of the window. The fact that they do tells one or two things:

1.God's a deranged psychopathic.

2.The Bible was made by a bunch of crazy fanatics trying to control others and explain what no one can.

I'd go with the latter.

2.Nature evolving into other forms makes much more sense than a man in the sky that's "Always been there", knows everything you do, "Loves you", but still has the need for a place of eternal suffering.

If Evolution is too complicated for you, fine. I just have a feeling your parents probably told you there was a man in the refrigerator working the lights because you were too young to understand how one works.

See the similarity?. Choose whichever you like, fine by me. What ever puts less stress on your brain and doesn't take you out of your blanket.

3.No, homosexuals CAN have children. Being homosexual doesn't mean you're infertile. Dumb ass :)

4.I could go on with a Libertarian argument on why there's nothing wrong with consensual prostitution, but instead I'll say:

Saying fanatical homosexual groups represent the majority of LGBT is like saying the Westboro people speak for Jesus himself, or the majority of Christians.

5.Wow. You really went over the Coo-Coo's nest here:

1.You're comparing a social study to a Scientific fact.

2.If you deny evolution, even with it's scientific fact and it's compatibility WITH Christianity(Evolution doesn't address the beginning of the universe), then how can you be flabbergasted when someone doesn't believe your imaginary friend in an ancient book?.

3.Speaking of Science, come back with a satellite photo of a Jewish man sitting on a cloud and then your argument will hold
more weight than evolution and the big bang.

4.If a man cuts off his penis while cooking, is he any less father material?. You raise a kid with your heart and your brain, not with genitalia. You only use that for CREATING the kids.

And if you want to go the "Kids will be confused" route:

We live in some aspect a black and white society. Most kids grow up hearing the differences between M and F, how they should have crushes on a boy or a girl, how they can't wear dresses or camo.

But if a kid grows up with loving same sex parents, is he or she going to even think something's wrong?.

The environment can have a lot to do with a kid. Look at kids in the 1840's, look at kids now. Who were less likely to be racist?. Obviously the kids now.

Do kids raised in a sane home today say "Mommy, I don't want Chris over here because he's black". No. But if a kid grows up hearing how African Americans are lazy and all that other BS, then it's completely different.

My point is: Kids raised in a same sex home aren't going to be thinking about why they have two mommies/daddies. Will some other kid point it out to them? Yes. But growing up hearing about acceptance, diversity, and tolerance, will they care? No.
Both movements- same

Clarkson, KY

#15 May 13, 2012
*Ignore my first reply(The one with the quote)*
Both movements- same

Clarkson, KY

#16 May 13, 2012
A note:I'm not trying to attack any one on this thread personally. Just the beliefs that many deem "Wacky", "Uninformed", etc.

So if I came off that way, my apologies.
Alan N

Elizabethtown, KY

#17 May 14, 2012
Another nail in the coffin from a Muslim trying to destroy this country from the inside out.
romans 1

Elizabethtown, KY

#18 May 14, 2012
Both old and new testaments condemn homosexuality very plainly. And homosexuals while in a sinful state can not be saved. Not my opinion, but the word of god. However an act of repentance and turning from that perversion a homosexual can be saved.

A far as religion not being used to establish laws that affect others, you people need to read the constitution. This country was based on old and new testament order. All of our founding fathers established this country with the intent of creating a christian society. We USED TO BE one nation under GOD. But now this tolerance message has polluted the land so bad that our monkey of a president (not racial) is declaring that we are no longer a christian nation, and embracing homosexual marriages. What a farce. Btw, the nation that turns its back on GOD shall be turned into hell. Just watch as our monetary system id brought down, our crime rates go up, and perversion sweeps the land. Just as it was in the days of noah!
Both movements- same

Clarkson, KY

#19 May 14, 2012
romans 1 wrote:
Both old and new testaments condemn homosexuality very plainly. And homosexuals while in a sinful state can not be saved. Not my opinion, but the word of god. However an act of repentance and turning from that perversion a homosexual can be saved.
A far as religion not being used to establish laws that affect others, you people need to read the constitution. This country was based on old and new testament order. All of our founding fathers established this country with the intent of creating a christian society. We USED TO BE one nation under GOD. But now this tolerance message has polluted the land so bad that our monkey of a president (not racial) is declaring that we are no longer a christian nation, and embracing homosexual marriages. What a farce. Btw, the nation that turns its back on GOD shall be turned into hell. Just watch as our monetary system id brought down, our crime rates go up, and perversion sweeps the land. Just as it was in the days of noah!
Lol.

1.If you want to talk about what the Bible condemns, I'd better not see you eating shellfish or wearing clothes of more than one material. Because I'd think you were a pickin' and choosin' hypocrite.

2.Some Founding Fathers were DEISTS, not Christians. But down the Bible and pick up a history book.

3.If you're God is as "Loving" as you zealots seem to spout, why would YOU be punished because some man or woman in America marries the person he or she was born to love?. If you want to counter the born that way thing, don't quote the Bible. It holds as much weight on this subject as one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.

4.Our monetary system?. I guess you're saying God created the Federal Reserve and likes spending ridiculous amounts of money.

If God is doing all of this, why not vote for Obama? I mean, you're saying it's GOD doing this, not the Gov. Lmao.
Both movements- same

Clarkson, KY

#20 May 14, 2012
Alan N wrote:
Another nail in the coffin from a Muslim trying to destroy this country from the inside out.
I'd love to see a transcript of the conversation you had with Our President in which he proclaims Muslim faith. Care to share?:)

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