Obama-Marriage Debate - Columbus, OH

Discuss the national Obama-Marriage debate in Columbus, OH.

Are you with President Obama in supporting gay marriage?

Columbus is with Obama on gay marriage.
Yes, all the way
 
83
Not at all
 
67
I'm on the fence
 
1

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Zoe

Circleville, OH

#638 Feb 13, 2013
Obama flip flopped on this one!

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#639 Feb 13, 2013
Adif understanding wrote:
<quoted text>Shouldn't you sig thing under your name say "I doubt therefore I might not be"?
Maybe, but it won't fit.
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#640 Feb 14, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe, but it won't fit.
I have been sharing recently concerning what drives much of the violence in our culture.

And as I have explained all violence we see played out is only the symptoms. But what is the root cause for the violence, what really drives it?

And as I have explained, when culture norms are skewed and twisted and contorted. And as moral laws are twisted and contorted. It is this twisting and contorting that leads one to violence. They lose their way morally.

I have talked before about the reason that a nail has a head on it. The reason is because that head stops the nail from going to far.

And this violence is what happens when a society removes the moral head from a society. There is nothing left to stop an individual from going to far.

And I find it interesting that this very, very sick LA- Shooter would reach out to such people as CNNís Anderson Cooper, Ellen Degeneres, Charlie Sheen etc. All known degenerates!

He did not reach out to true ministers or other common folk that carry within themselves moral standards and values.

What stoped this man from reaching out to those types of individuals? Why did he relate to the degenerates of our society?

The answer is really very simple!

He created a life of imitation vanilla for himself!

A life totally fabricated and without morals and conscience and personal responsibility for ones actions.

Why did he consider these individuals as his supporters?

Could it be that he considered, things equal to each other are equal to the same thing?

Why did he feel a connection with them?

What values if any did they share?

I guess you will have to decide that for yourself!

Once again I have not written to be critical.

But the truth must be told.

No individual and no nation. Can continue to sip homosexual honey laced with poison and remain true to its moral underpinnings.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#641 Feb 14, 2013
Pollster wrote:
I guess you will have to decide that for yourself!
Each of us does. Free will.
Antifa

Dayton, OH

#642 Feb 14, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're losing... one state at a time... try not to cry too much.
It is an unexpected surprise seeing you admit that LBGTQ are attempting to redefine what is the basis of marriage.

You've admitted that instead of the noble goal of raising children, the LGBTQ goal of a marriage license is public support for adult hedonism and licentiousness.

Local government is the proper jurisdiction for deciding who or what deserves a marriage license. The 9th and 10th amendment of the US constitution explicity state this notion as the law of the land.

Progressive and neoconservative totalitarian punks of Diversity don't fancy the US constitution, so they tend to ignore what it says in order to get what they want.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#643 Feb 14, 2013
Antifa wrote:
<quoted text>
It is an unexpected surprise seeing you admit that LBGTQ are attempting to redefine what is the basis of marriage.
You've admitted that instead of the noble goal of raising children, the LGBTQ goal of a marriage license is public support for adult hedonism and licentiousness.
Local government is the proper jurisdiction for deciding who or what deserves a marriage license. The 9th and 10th amendment of the US constitution explicity state this notion as the law of the land.
Progressive and neoconservative totalitarian punks of Diversity don't fancy the US constitution, so they tend to ignore what it says in order to get what they want.
You're losing, and soon you'll all be rabid over it.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#644 Feb 14, 2013
Antifa wrote:
<quoted text>
It is an unexpected surprise seeing you admit that LBGTQ are attempting to redefine what is the basis of marriage.
You've admitted that instead of the noble goal of raising children, the LGBTQ goal of a marriage license is public support for adult hedonism and licentiousness.
Local government is the proper jurisdiction for deciding who or what deserves a marriage license. The 9th and 10th amendment of the US constitution explicity state this notion as the law of the land.
Progressive and neoconservative totalitarian punks of Diversity don't fancy the US constitution, so they tend to ignore what it says in order to get what they want.
Well Anti, The Amendments don't stop at the 10th.

woof
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#645 Feb 15, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Anti, The Amendments don't stop at the 10th.
woof
I find it interesting that this very, very sick LA- Shooter would reach out to such people as CNNís Anderson Cooper, Ellen Degeneres, Charlie Sheen etc. All known degenerates!

He did not reach out to true ministers or other common folk that carry within themselves moral standards and values.

What stopped this man from reaching out to those types of individuals? Why did he relate to the degenerates of our society?

The answer is really very simple!

He created a life of imitation vanilla for himself!

A life totally fabricated and without morals and conscience and personal responsibility for ones actions.

Why did he consider these individuals as his supporters?

Could it be that he considered, things equal to each other are equal to the same thing?

Why did he feel a connection with them?

What values if any did they share?
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#646 Feb 16, 2013
ERMA wrote:
Know lot of gay people where I live. About 20% gay out of approximately 1,000,000 people. When a loved one is in hospital or dies or whatever catastrophic event partners have no rights. The family who quite possibly disowned
I thought that it might be helpful for me to explain why the scripture is always under attack.

You must remember that, the bible will always be attacked! Lets face it, the scripture is always the eternal light that exposes the darkness that attempts to hide itself within the recesses of mens hearts!

And as we continue to see here on topix, men will go to great lengths to conceal their personal darkness!

Although it will always be the scripture that flush them concerning their personal darkness!

This is one of the reasons that Jesus Christ always pushed individuals to go to the word for truth concerning darkness!

Lets take a look at an couple of interesting verses concerning this subject!

2nd Thessalonians 3:1 Finally,[In summation] brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and that it may be glorified,even as it is with you.

2nd Thessalonians 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith.[The faith of Jesus Christ]

Here we see that the true heart of any believer is that the word of God may have free course and that it is glorified! This is another great truth that Jesus Christ understood!

In order for individuals to be delivered from their personal darkness and other miladies, it requires that, the entire scripture have free course!

As you will notice here on topix, there are many that would rather deny many the free course of scripture and thereby deny many the deliverance it brings!

This reality was true of Paul's day as well! Jesus Christ, Paul, and others understood that, it is the adherence to all scripture that brings about mans deliverance!

Paul also mention's unreasonable and wicked men in his prayer, that the scripture might have free course!

The word unreasonable means, "Perverse or Truculent Irrational" Truculent means, too be quick to argue or fight!

You see that most clearly here on topix!

For example, the subject of homosexuality will cause many to argue and fight concerning what the bible teaches about Gods condemnation of the behavour!

But on the other hand they accept what scripture teaches concerning love!

Paul here is speaking of individuals that are unreasonable and irrational in their thinking concerning issues that the bible speaks on!

Should all people be loved? Oh there is no question about it!

Does the bible condemn a homosexual lifestyle? Oh there is no question about it!

You see, true christian believers are never Truculent concerning scripture, and that is how you separate the real ones from the fake ones here on topix as well as around the globe!

Jesus said, if ye love me you will do my word! Even the parts you dont agree with.

Above Paul also mentioned wicked men!

The word wicked means, "Lawless, With Out Law, Without a Standard!

Where ever and whenever man deny the scripture, lawlessness ensues!

The scripture forbids stealing, when that scripture is broken, lawlessness ensues! The scripture forbids homosexual behavour, when that scripture is forsaken, sexual immorality ensues!

Jesus said, those that hear my voice will do my word!

We don't line up the word with our lives, we line our lives up with the word!

The bible says that the scripture was written with a pen of iron and the point of a diamond, WOW! Will you have the same resolve as Isaiah?

Isaiah 50:7 For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.[Disappointed in my expectations!]

Again I have not written to be critical.

But the truth of what goes on here on topix concerning those that call themselves Christian must be exposed for what it truly is, Hypocrisy at the highest level!

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#647 Feb 16, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>I thought that it might be helpful for me to explain why the scripture is always under attack.
The reason is simple. There are those who think they have the right to shove it down everyone's throat. Why do you always go against God when it comes to free will? He gave it to us, didn't He? Who in hell are you to interfere in God's gift? You realize by doing that you are placing yourself above Him, don't you? Will you be damned to Hell for your blasphemy?
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#648 Feb 16, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The reason is simple. There are those who think they have the right to shove it down everyone's throat. Why do you always go against God when it comes to free will? He gave it to us, didn't He? Who in hell are you to interfere in God's gift? You realize by doing that you are placing yourself above Him, don't you? Will you be damned to Hell for your blasphemy?
The scripture forbids stealing, when that scripture is broken, lawlessness ensues! The scripture forbids homosexual behavour, when that scripture is forsaken, sexual immorality ensues!

Jesus said, those that hear my voice will do my word!

We don't line up the word with our lives, we line our lives up with the word!
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#649 Feb 16, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The reason is simple. There are those who think they have the right to shove it down everyone's throat. Why do you always go against God when it comes to free will? He gave it to us, didn't He? Who in hell are you to interfere in God's gift? You realize by doing that you are placing yourself above Him, don't you? Will you be damned to Hell for your blasphemy?
Does Homosexual Ideologies Strengthen American Values?

In order to begin to discuss American values, and the negative effects that homosexual ideologues have had upon the family, one by sheer logic must consider the American family and what constitutes a family as well as family values! There can be no question that the family has been the cornerstone of all civilized civilizations, not the individual and certainly not the homosexual! Even heterosexual marriages with all their problems at times, still provide the best soil for keeping America strong and provides the most wholesome environment to raise future Americans! The sheer fact that homosexuals lack any and all ability to produce offspring just speaks volumes, in regards to the counterfeit ideologies promoted by the homosexual agenda concerning the parenting of children! The welfare of the children must always be considered first, not political correctness or the emotional feelings of individuals that, have chosen a lifestyle that, by its very nature has denied them the fruit of Gods blessing upon an unnatural union!

The glory of children are their fathers!

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#650 Feb 16, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
The scripture forbids stealing, when that scripture is broken, lawlessness ensues! The scripture forbids homosexual behavour, when that scripture is forsaken, sexual immorality ensues!
Jesus said, those that hear my voice will do my word!
We don't line up the word with our lives, we line our lives up with the word!
God wants you to lead by example, not by coercion.
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#651 Feb 16, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
God wants you to lead by example, not by coercion.
I see you are cherry picking again.

The welfare of the children must always be considered first, not political correctness or the emotional feelings of individuals that, have chosen a lifestyle that, by its very nature has denied them the fruit of Gods blessing upon an unnatural union!
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#652 Feb 16, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The reason is simple. There are those who think they have the right to shove it down everyone's throat. Why do you always go against God when it comes to free will? He gave it to us, didn't He? Who in hell are you to interfere in God's gift? You realize by doing that you are placing yourself above Him, don't you? Will you be damned to Hell for your blasphemy?
{Why do you always go against God when it comes to free will? He gave it to us, didn't He?}

Yes but responsibility comes with that free will.

If you are free to engage in sexual deviance, then Jerry Sandusky is free to engage deviant behavior.

And consent never erases the condemnation God has placed upon homosexuality.

Its nothing but a lie that you have told yourself.

Back to the drawing board!
Adif understanding

United States

#653 Feb 16, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
God wants you to lead by example, not by coercion.
HE also wants you to preach his word. Are you confusing the two?

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#654 Feb 16, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
{Why do you always go against God when it comes to free will? He gave it to us, didn't He?}
Yes but responsibility comes with that free will.
If you are free to engage in sexual deviance, then Jerry Sandusky is free to engage deviant behavior.
Minors are incapable of giving legal consent.

[QUOTE}And consent never erases the condemnation God has placed upon homosexuality.[/QUOTE]

It's for God to judge them, not you.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#655 Feb 16, 2013
Adif understanding wrote:
<quoted text>HE also wants you to preach his word. Are you confusing the two?
That's what 'by example' means. Say what you like, live and show what you like (freedom of speech, and all that), and even punish legally demonstrated harm... But if someone is not harming another or violating their rights, they should have no forced restrictions. If your ways really ARE superior, people will see and flock to emulate, no force necessary. If you feel you have to use force, it makes it look as though you're not all that convinced yourselves!

And before you continue judging someone you don't even know over their ability to properly parent children, I'd suggest you clean up your own houses first.
Adif understanding

United States

#656 Feb 16, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what 'by example' means. Say what you like, live and show what you like (freedom of speech, and all that), and even punish legally demonstrated harm... But if someone is not harming another or violating their rights, they should have no forced restrictions. If your ways really ARE superior, people will see and flock to emulate, no force necessary. If you feel you have to use force, it makes it look as though you're not all that convinced yourselves!
And before you continue judging someone you don't even know over their ability to properly parent children, I'd suggest you clean up your own houses first.
There are no forced restrictions that I know of. But the bible actually says to spread the word so you will get preaching and it will be about homosexuality being an abomination according to the lord..

What is this force you speak of. Not allowing a gay feel comfortable around you is not force.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#657 Feb 16, 2013
Adif understanding wrote:
<quoted text>There are no forced restrictions that I know of.
Laws preventing gay people from marrying each other are forced restrictions.

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