Obama-Marriage Debate - Columbus, OH

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Are you with President Obama in supporting gay marriage?

Columbus is with Obama on gay marriage.
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Feb 12, 2013
 
Reality Speaks wrote:
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just another rot of morality in society
that is all....no biggie
we kill millions of unborn babies; and have people shooting up towns like in video games.
morality and appreciation of life is lost in the USA.
every single time we act politically correct, or pander to those who have laws against their behavior, we sink further into a pit that eventually will implode.
marriage is defined in every dictionary as a union between man and woman.
liberals want to change definitions everyday.
Why all the violence?

All societal norms continue to be skewed from the proliferation of homosexuality/lesbianism taught to school children, Polygamy, division within the home, out of wedlock births, mothers/fathers absent, children farmed out to homosexuals, no female role model, rampant welfare, gambling, lotto, alcohol, dope, reality TV, homosexual, lesbian, heterosexual domestic violence, unlimited access to the internet, homosexual pedophile priest, unlimited,unsupervised access to violent video imagery, a sense of discord/divisiveness within all culture, law enforce ridiculed, atheist frivolous law suits to remove culture norms, all Christian organizations under attack, gender selection abortions.

Attempting to redefine marriage which removes the purpose and benefits that heterosexual marriage provides to children and to a society, in an attempt to shift the essential needs of marriage and family to a culture, to the inessential needs of the single homosexual. These are just for starters as to why there is such violence. Blame the liberal adults!

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Feb 12, 2013
 
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Tony Tony, "consenting adult" does not make it ok.
Adults consent to do a lot of things, that is no justification to engage in sexual perversion.
Adults consent to rob banks, that is no justification for robbing banks.
Robbing banks harms others and/or violates their superior rights.
Your argument is moot!
Adults consent to a public orgy.
And moving an orgy to a private location does not change the fact that an orgy is corrupt behavior, like homosexuality.
What homosexuals do behind closed door does not make homosexuality ok.
None of your business.
People plan kidnappings behind closed doors, that does not make it ok.
Tony, back to the drawing board!
Kidnapping harms someone or violates their superior rights.

Live your life your way and live it loud. If it really is the best of ways, people will see, and flock to emulate. If you have to use force, they're not really the best of ways. Even God does not "force" people to follow him. He could if he wanted to, right? If he'd wanted us to be mindless puppets, we'd be mindless puppets, right? Surely you wouldn't be questioning His wisdom, would you?
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Feb 12, 2013
 
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Robbing banks harms others and/or violates their superior rights.
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None of your business.
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Kidnapping harms someone or violates their superior rights.
Live your life your way and live it loud. If it really is the best of ways, people will see, and flock to emulate. If you have to use force, they're not really the best of ways. Even God does not "force" people to follow him. He could if he wanted to, right? If he'd wanted us to be mindless puppets, we'd be mindless puppets, right? Surely you wouldn't be questioning His wisdom, would you?
marriage:

1. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms: separation.

b. a similar institution involving partners of the same gender: gay marriage. Antonyms: separation.

Similar?

Once again the whole corrupt concept of gay marriage is nothing but a total facade. All tweaked, twisted and contorted to appear normal and valid.

Based upon a total fabrication and lie!

Similar?

When you think of gay marriage, think of artificial vanilla!

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Feb 12, 2013
 
Pollster wrote:
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marriage:
1. a. the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Antonyms: separation.
b. a similar institution involving partners of the same gender: gay marriage. Antonyms: separation.
Similar?
Once again the whole corrupt concept of gay marriage is nothing but a total facade. All tweaked, twisted and contorted to appear normal and valid.
Based upon a total fabrication and lie!
Similar?
When you think of gay marriage, think of artificial vanilla!
Unlike you, I don't stick my nose in other people's relationship except to allow them to define theirs as they see fit.

If your ways are so great, they should be able to stand on their own merits. Your fighting what other people do that has nothing to do with you only exposes your fear that it's not as great as you think it is. You're setting yourself up for a lifetime of disappointments if you think other people are going to live the way you think they should. We all have to find our own way. It's the reason we were given FREE WILL.
adif understanding

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Feb 12, 2013
 
I noticed that some people claim gay marriage is none of anyone's business other then those getting married. This is completely incorrect. Marriage as a function of government is distinctively public business as in the US the government is subject to the sovereign of the people not the other way around. If we were in England, the government would be subject to the sovereign of the crown (read queen), if we were in Iran, government would be subject to the sovereign of the theologists in charge of the state religion.

Therefore any action of the government or changes to it whatsoever are inherently the subject of purview by the people.
It is subject to people's thoughts regardless of your agreement or disagreement with them and it is subject to the will of the people, no matter how that translates into law. It matters not why the people think this should not happen, only in whether or not they think it should happen. That is how our government works.

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Feb 12, 2013
 
adif understanding wrote:
I noticed that some people claim gay marriage is none of anyone's business other then those getting married. This is completely incorrect. Marriage as a function of government is distinctively public business as in the US the government is subject to the sovereign of the people not the other way around. If we were in England, the government would be subject to the sovereign of the crown (read queen), if we were in Iran, government would be subject to the sovereign of the theologists in charge of the state religion.
Therefore any action of the government or changes to it whatsoever are inherently the subject of purview by the people.
It is subject to people's thoughts regardless of your agreement or disagreement with them and it is subject to the will of the people, no matter how that translates into law. It matters not why the people think this should not happen, only in whether or not they think it should happen. That is how our government works.
Maybe the government should be completely out of the marriage business.
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Feb 12, 2013
 
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Maybe the government should be completely out of the marriage business.
Maybe they should be.

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Feb 12, 2013
 
adif understanding wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe they should be.
I'd be all for it! The control freaks might not like it much though.
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#625
Feb 13, 2013
 
A marriage license is public support.

Originally a marriage license was public support for the raising of children, a noble goal, not adult hedonism as the queer community desires it to be.

Queers desire a license because they want public support for the consequences of their hedonism.

The consequences of typical LGBTQ hedonism are disease proliferation, abortion, porn degradation, child molestation, and big government dependency.

The public puts whores in jail for doing less vile things than a typical LGBTQ.

The decision to grant a marriage license properly rests with the people, local governments.
Reality Speaks

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#626
Feb 13, 2013
 
maybe a sin tax, like the govt imposers on other things.

Gay Marriage license is $5000.
Adif understanding

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#627
Feb 13, 2013
 
Reality Speaks wrote:
maybe a sin tax, like the govt imposers on other things.
Gay Marriage license is $5000.
That would be a great deal for them. They can save 30 times as much in abated inheritance taxes and social security payments.
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#628
Feb 13, 2013
 
TonyD2 wrote:
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Unlike you, I don't stick my nose in other people's relationship except to allow them to define theirs as they see fit.
If your ways are so great, they should be able to stand on their own merits. Your fighting what other people do that has nothing to do with you only exposes your fear that it's not as great as you think it is. You're setting yourself up for a lifetime of disappointments if you think other people are going to live the way you think they should. We all have to find our own way. It's the reason we were given FREE WILL.
{Unlike you, I don't stick my nose in other people's relationship except to allow them to define theirs as they see fit.}

I will pass that along to Jerry Sandusky!
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Feb 13, 2013
 
adif understanding wrote:
I noticed that some people claim gay marriage is none of anyone's business other then those getting married. This is completely incorrect. Marriage as a function of government is distinctively public business as in the US the government is subject to the sovereign of the people not the other way around. If we were in England, the government would be subject to the sovereign of the crown (read queen), if we were in Iran, government would be subject to the sovereign of the theologists in charge of the state religion.
Therefore any action of the government or changes to it whatsoever are inherently the subject of purview by the people.
It is subject to people's thoughts regardless of your agreement or disagreement with them and it is subject to the will of the people, no matter how that translates into law. It matters not why the people think this should not happen, only in whether or not they think it should happen. That is how our government works.
An honest and well thought out post! Thanks for posting.
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#630
Feb 13, 2013
 
See thread:

"Transforming the homosexual, to fit into the American culture!"

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#631
Feb 13, 2013
 
Being bi-sexual not sure where i stand on this
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#632
Feb 13, 2013
 
Most LGBTQ want a marriage license, just in case they might get prosecuted for sodomy or abortion or spreading a deadly disease or purveying their porn in public.

A licence for licentiousness is a good defensive shield in any court of law.

James Bond had a license to kill, and everybody that is politically correct loves James Bond.
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Feb 13, 2013
 
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I'd be all for it! The control freaks might not like it much though.
Homosexuals, the fathers of all lies!

1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.

[but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.]

All homosexual sodomy is a sexual sin committed against a mans body! Because it is outside of the scope that God intended for sexual pleasure! God has set specific boundary's for all sexual behavior! All Homosexual sexual practices are clearly built upon lies concerning these great boundary! We know from the scripture that one of the reasons that homosexuals have so many different partners is because, homosexual sodomy was not designed to sexually satisfy a man! Homosexual sodomy leaves man sexually unfulfilled! And that's another reason the scripture says here that, he who sins sexually sins against his own body! Too sin sexually is to use your body to engage in sex with a sexual partner your body and genitalia was not created for!

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

What a beautiful verse used here to show what God intended marriage to be! In the original Greek, the word defiled means…..not defiled, unsoiled, and free from that by which the nature of a thing is deformed and debased, or its force and vigor impaired. Marriage is honorable in all. The object here is to state that honor is to be shown to the marriage relation. It is not to be undervalued by the pretense of the superior purity of a state of celibacy! The lie of homosexual marriage attempts to dirty what God has established! Two men involved in homosexual sodomy defile the marriage bed! So does polygamy! Although some homosexuals here support this most destructive sexual device! I will continue to show how and why The scripture considers the homosexual the father of all lies! It is truly a never ending list, with lies stuffed within lies!
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I'd be all for it! The control freaks might not like it much though.
Simply the truth!

This child was given birth based entirely upon a host of homosexual lies, moral corruption, financial corruption, and a host of other corruptions all promulgated via lying homosexuals and the perversion they promote! They don't like being exposed for what they really are! They support these monsters and what they did to this child!

In Luke 17:1-2 Jesus declares that “offenses will come,” but then adds,“but woe be to the one who cause offenses”.

In Matthew 18:1-10 we learn that Jesus particularly warns individuals of the dire consequences that will befall those who offend little children or young Christians!

As we consider this great atrocity that has been perpetrated against this child, we must naturally place the child's lifelong welfare and emotions first! Although when a person considers what really went on behind the scenes, one realizes that this child's future was never considered in terms of negative personal and emotional pain! As a individual looks at who the players were that, participated in this most Frankenstein of concepts, they become very aware of the fact that there were mainly four monsters involved in this lab experiment, that created this experimental child!

[1] The Elton John monster!

[2] The David Furnish monster!

[3] The Biological monster that provided the egg!

[4] The Surrogate monster that accepted the biological monsters egg!

Clearly this whole experiment that was hatched in Frankenstein's lab, was given birth based upon several personal interests at several different levels! It would be hard to identify who the chief monster was, given so many were involved! This child was clearly brought into this world based upon mans selfishness and greed! No thought, no love, no concern, no consideration for the well-being of this child was ever considered! Everyone involved got something, at the expense of the child, and with the exception of the child! Clearly the Biological and Surrogate monsters were well paid for their participation in this corrupt experiment! The other two monsters involvement was clearly driven via selfishness and corruption, driven by a desire to posses something that, because of the corrupt lifestyle both monsters have chosen to in-gauge in! God, by his wisdom and consideration for the well-being of all children has denied them! And now there is a child that one day will grow to become a very troubled and tortured soul, as the child comes too the true realization of how and why it was created, and the monsters involved in its creation! Many of whom will remain anonymous through out the child's lifetime! Jesus Christ said that there would be offenses and atrocities brought about by man and perpetrated upon children! He also said, God help the individuals that commits these offenses and atrocities against children! You may laugh and scoff and twist as you sit upon the sidelines of life! But some day there will be Godly justice for this child and the helpless! The eternal wheels of Gods justice may grind slowly, but they grind finely! There is also a fifth monster involved in this Frankenstein experiment! And its name is, Homosexual Ideology!

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Antifa wrote:
A marriage license is public support.
Originally a marriage license was public support for the raising of children, a noble goal, not adult hedonism as the queer community desires it to be.
Queers desire a license because they want public support for the consequences of their hedonism.
You're losing... one state at a time... try not to cry too much.

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Simply the truth!
This child was given birth based entirely upon a host of homosexual lies, moral corruption, financial corruption, and a host of other corruptions all promulgated via lying homosexuals and the perversion they promote! They don't like being exposed for what they really are! They support these monsters and what they did to this child!
In Luke 17:1-2 Jesus declares that “offenses will come,” but then adds,“but woe be to the one who cause offenses”.
In other words, keep your own house in order (certain Catholic priests come to mind), and don't worry about the other guy. If it's an abomination, you need do nothing but sit back and watch the woe-being. Live and let live.

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