Marijuana Debate - Danville, KY

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Since: Jul 10

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#1 Aug 24, 2010
Has it ever killed any one NO!!! Why was it made illegal in the first place? To make the timber companies money because hemp was doing so well.
SOPRANO

Danville, KY

#2 Aug 24, 2010
NonProfit wrote:
Has it ever killed any one NO!!! Why was it made illegal in the first place? To make the timber companies money because hemp was doing so well.
Timber has nothing to do with marijuana, I think. It was made illegal because the government will have a hard time taxing it. Afterall weed is a natural plant that can grow in the wild. The government cannot regulate weed like they can alcohol.

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#3 Aug 24, 2010
Honestly I believe the only reason the government has not totally legalized it is because they do not know how to keep regular everyday folk from growing it. America is out to make money and they know that they would make billions of dollars in tax revenue off of Marijuana and as soon as they think they can control who grows it and who doesn't they will legalize it. Our government is greedy and wants that tax money.
just me

Salvisa, KY

#4 Aug 24, 2010
it doesn;t make people all crazy like going off shooting and stuff.
SOPRANO

Danville, KY

#5 Aug 24, 2010
Here is an off the wall thought. Say marijuana is legal and local farmmers could grow it. What would prevent people coming to the fields and stealing the crop? Instead of paying for it they could just easily go steal it. That would set off one retaliation after another not to mention somebody would get shot. Just a thought.

Since: Jul 10

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#6 Aug 24, 2010
SOPRANO wrote:
<quoted text>Timber has nothing to do with marijuana, I think. It was made illegal because the government will have a hard time taxing it. Afterall weed is a natural plant that can grow in the wild. The government cannot regulate weed like they can alcohol.

I apologize for saying this but you are wrong. You need to research the facts before you make uninformed claims such as this. Cannabis has every thing to with the timber industries, because timber is used to make paper. It also would greatly impact the oil companies, because hemp can be used to make plastic and fuel. Here is a link you should read:

http://www.ushempmuseum.com/Prohibiton.html

I can grow tobacco in my back yard if I want. Tobacco is a natural plant that grows in the wild, the government has no problem taxing it, now does it?

Since: Jul 10

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#7 Aug 24, 2010
SOPRANO wrote:
Here is an off the wall thought. Say marijuana is legal and local farmmers could grow it. What would prevent people coming to the fields and stealing the crop? Instead of paying for it they could just easily go steal it. That would set off one retaliation after another not to mention somebody would get shot. Just a thought.
Wrong again. What keeps people from going into the tobacco fields and stealing some? If marijuana was legalized, its cost would drop low enough that it would easier to go to the gas station to pick some up. Instead of going out into a field and picking some bud and having to wait a week for it to dry, before you can smoke it. Do think about any thing you say before you say it "SOPRANO"?
SOPRANO

Danville, KY

#8 Aug 25, 2010
NonProfit wrote:
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Wrong again. What keeps people from going into the tobacco fields and stealing some? If marijuana was legalized, its cost would drop low enough that it would easier to go to the gas station to pick some up. Instead of going out into a field and picking some bud and having to wait a week for it to dry, before you can smoke it. Do think about any thing you say before you say it "SOPRANO"?
I think quite a bit and I was wrong on the timber industry.Oh no I am not perfect thank you for pointing that out. I wasnt considering the paper issue my bad. There are thieves around every corner that was my point on that one. Chill the hostility. What makes you think the price would drop? If weed were legal the government could make the cost sky rocket if they wanted. Or the price could drop. Since weed isnt legal[yet]we can speculate on the cost of it all we want.
j m s t

Versailles, KY

#9 Aug 25, 2010
yes it is no diffrent than beer or wiskey so why not and this would do away from some people being very rich with out working!!!!!!
SOPRANO

Danville, KY

#10 Aug 25, 2010
NonProfit wrote:
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Wrong again. What keeps people from going into the tobacco fields and stealing some? If marijuana was legalized, its cost would drop low enough that it would easier to go to the gas station to pick some up. Instead of going out into a field and picking some bud and having to wait a week for it to dry, before you can smoke it. Do think about any thing you say before you say it "SOPRANO"?
People do steal tobacco. Ask any farmer who had been around for a while and they can tell you tobacco theft has happened. Your turn to think before you say it.
racefanrob

Danville, KY

#11 Aug 25, 2010
Why is marijuana illegal ? In the 1930s a better paper was being made from hemp. Hemp was being used for many useful things besides rope. Henry Ford was even making a low cost ethonal from hemp. Ford also made uphostry for his automobiles from hemp. It was much more durable than any other product. Randolph Hurst the California newspaper giant owned a huge paper processing company and owned massive lumber rights all over the U.S. He helped his brother-in-law get elected to the U.S. Senate and they had hemp outlawed. Marijuana being of the hemp family became illegal as well. And since marijuana had the ability to promote a brain stimulous affect, the move was made through marijuana to have hemp removed as a viable commodity on the industrial market. Of course there were movies made like Refer Madness that give people the notion that if someone smoked marijuana they would become mad or even a murderer.
But, it was really over the paper business.
SOPRANO 1

Danville, KY

#12 Aug 25, 2010
Well hot damn I learned something new today people. Thank you I can add this to the difference on opinions on the stanford post come and read. Would love to hear other opinions on this matter all is welcome the pros and cons. Just remember we are debating not slinging out insults. I read non profit site he left earlier and enjoyed what I have read so far anymore articles like that one? And dude I cannot condone the religious beliefs. If you want proof of GOD look at life because life itself is a miracle. My opinion.

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#13 Aug 25, 2010
SOPRANO wrote:
<quoted text>I think quite a bit and I was wrong on the timber industry.Oh no I am not perfect thank you for pointing that out. I wasnt considering the paper issue my bad. There are thieves around every corner that was my point on that one. Chill the hostility. What makes you think the price would drop? If weed were legal the government could make the cost sky rocket if they wanted. Or the price could drop. Since weed isnt legal[yet]we can speculate on the cost of it all we want.
Well I apologize for sounding angry, but for some reason most people out there have a hard time making their own opinions, some even get on this website to construct their opinions and I do not want people being misinformed. Some reasons why we can speculate that its cost will drop dramatically are as follows. For cannabis to get from the growers hands to your hands takes several steps each of these steps taxing the cost; mainly because of the dangers involved, causing the finale cost to increase. We can use are prison system as a great example of this. In prisons tobacco is the most expensive drug you can purchase. The reason being inside prison prison the position of tobacco is illegal. Tobacco has to take the same journey to get into the hands of the users. The person sneaking it in has to make money to pay for the dangers involved, So too the person selling it on the inside. We can also look forward to supply and demand driving the prices down once it becomes legal.
SOPRANO 1

Danville, KY

#14 Aug 25, 2010
NonProfit wrote:
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Well I apologize for sounding angry, but for some reason most people out there have a hard time making their own opinions, some even get on this website to construct their opinions and I do not want people being misinformed. Some reasons why we can speculate that its cost will drop dramatically are as follows. For cannabis to get from the growers hands to your hands takes several steps each of these steps taxing the cost; mainly because of the dangers involved, causing the finale cost to increase. We can use are prison system as a great example of this. In prisons tobacco is the most expensive drug you can purchase. The reason being inside prison prison the position of tobacco is illegal. Tobacco has to take the same journey to get into the hands of the users. The person sneaking it in has to make money to pay for the dangers involved, So too the person selling it on the inside. We can also look forward to supply and demand driving the prices down once it becomes legal.
i understand your point on the costs and agree with it. I heard that the price in the states that border mexico the cost is way way lower than the cost here. I didnt believe it at first but took a road trip and found out the truth first hand. I dont know if it is legal in mexico or not but it is plentiful there. Good point on your part. I hope my evil twin dont get on here and run their mouth on this. I am not a smoker now but really havent heard a good reason why marijuana is illegal. What I go from that site you posted earlier it talks about making hemp legal but isnt hemp seperate from the bud that is smoked. If I remember they say a barn in Wisconsin housed enough hemp for the entire country but that was a fabrication since smoking hemp would only give the person a headache. Currently South [or north] Dakota is the only state to legalize hemp and to cost to get a liscense is over $3000 this was in 2004. Sommwouldnt hemp be considered different than the bud? If so my question is if hemp can be legalized to create goods then why wouldnt the bud off the samme marijuana plant be legal for recreational use?
SOPRANO 1

Danville, KY

#15 Aug 25, 2010
Too tired my brain wont act right. What I am asking is if hemp for creating goods and jobs would be legalized then wouldnt the bud that is smoked be legal also?
anonymous

Lexington, KY

#16 Aug 25, 2010
http://www.drugwatch.org/CEDARS/MarDeaths2002...

And that was from 2002. Imagine how many more deaths have been attributed since then as the rise of the substance keeps going? And actually, for a defensive driving class they had statistics on substances used in DUI's that caused accidents and fatalities. Marijuana was second, only next to alcohol.

So perhaps you should research your facts before you get on here and yell at everyone. Should it be legal? Sure. I agree with that even though I don't choose to use it. But at least research, as you say, and know the facts before you go on some random tangent and try to put other people down for their opinions.

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#18 Aug 25, 2010
anonymous wrote:
http://www.drugwatch.org/CEDAR S/MarDeaths2002e.pdf
And that was from 2002. Imagine how many more deaths have been attributed since then as the rise of the substance keeps going? And actually, for a defensive driving class they had statistics on substances used in DUI's that caused accidents and fatalities. Marijuana was second, only next to alcohol.
So perhaps you should research your facts before you get on here and yell at everyone. Should it be legal? Sure. I agree with that even though I don't choose to use it. But at least research, as you say, and know the facts before you go on some random tangent and try to put other people down for their opinions.
I believe I have done more research on this matter then you will ever do. I can pull a link and post it that says big foot is real. Does that make big foot real NO!!! Its called propaganda some people want it to stay illegal so they can make money off of the millions of people charged with simple possession or off the sale of it directly, so they use this money to pay people off to say "Pot did it". Simple cognitive reasoning skills can tell you that. Yes people have been killed in accidents while intoxicated. It is the black top you are hitting at 50 mph that is killing you not the cannabis. For you to overdoes on Cannabis you have to smoke 40,000 times the amount to get you high, that is 1500 pound in about 15 minutes. To put that into perspective; cannabis 40,000:1 alcohol 4:1. Yet again I will state the "FACT" that Cannabis has never directly caused a single human death EVER!!!

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/...
http://www.cannabismd.net/mortality/
http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/2...
SOPRANO 1

Danville, KY

#19 Aug 25, 2010
Read the articles the man makes a strong point.
Dave

Fayetteville, AR

#20 Aug 31, 2010
marijuana should be decriminalized and available to adults the same way that alcohol is. It's not as harmful as alcohol or other legitimate drugs. It's illegal because of the competition that hemp creates among, timber, cotton, oil, and other major industries. There should be laws and regulations to keep marijuana legitimate among adult and medical users. Like any substance, it should not be abused but it should not be a crime to possess up to an ounce.
AshLey Ford :)

Ford City, PA

#22 Aug 31, 2010
If cigarettes are legal nd they can do a lot of harm and kill u then marijuana should also be legal

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