Immigration Debate - Stockton, CA

Discuss the national Immigration debate in Stockton, CA.

Do you support Arizona's immigration law?

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Marc Vidak

Stockton, CA

#1 Jun 13, 2010
The feds won't do it so the state has to.
american

Grants Pass, OR

#2 Jun 14, 2010
law breakers
tired of speaking spanish at work

Stockton, CA

#3 Jun 17, 2010
do i really need to explain it????
today no future

Manteca, CA

#4 Jun 18, 2010
it is about time.need to make more laws.freedom is not free.english only.
hmmph

Stockton, CA

#5 Jun 23, 2010
i love the mexican people, and even a majority of the pisas i met were really great guys, and damn hard workers, but laws are in place to protect and sustain our country, and we must not let a socialist movement and revolution born in south of the border ( and further south still ) have its way with our country,
yes to borders
yes to sovereignty
yeas to legal immigration,
yes to regulated and enforced work visas
yes to strict deportation of illegals
yes to criminal charges of illegals
yes to a return of prison labor programs
no to amnesty
no to reconquistadoras
no to la raza
no to social services for illegals
no to undocumented employees
big yes to fines and jail time to employers and land owners who hire and rent to undocumented individuals
Robert Nelson Sr

United States

#6 Jun 24, 2010
Go to san joaquin county hospital and see who is in the emergency room, go to the jails around stockton and see who the majority of the prisioners are, go to the schools and see how many students are from illegal familys, go to the social security and see who is getting who is signing up for benefits. If you take into consideration the low pay these people are getting and the underground economy they are making a living from, and it doesnt take a math genius to know that these people are not contributing enough to make a dent into what is paid out to support them. California is spending Billions to support them and we are broke I repeat broke....it doesnt matter how empothetic you are to want to help these people the fact is it is just not sustanible. The crime that is being created well I could go on for several more paragraphs on that issue... They are killing people every day in california and around the country it has to end and end nowwwwwwwwwwww
Don

Stockton, CA

#7 Jul 24, 2010
we are being over run here and need to stop it
Suzi

Saint Helena, CA

#8 Jul 27, 2010
Arizona has a right and an obligation to protect it's citizens.
Vet

Hampton, GA

#9 Jul 27, 2010
Suzi wrote:
Arizona has a right and an obligation to protect it's citizens.
Yes and so does the rest of America. ARREST and DEPORT.
Dark Dragon

United States

#10 Aug 26, 2010
there is no way the american public can go on there daly lives with out the Lower class imigrant workers, we're too pampered and lazy. Take that lower working class and there;s nothing separating homeless peaople from Meg working at McDonalds, prices go up teens wont work in fields.
Nancy Goebel

Hesperia, CA

#11 Apr 1, 2013
yes, these bottomfeeding, lying, thiieving criminals are ruining our country and taking jobs and education from our children and grandchildren and it's getting worse everyday.
GUESSWHOg

Issaquah, WA

#12 Apr 1, 2013
NANCY G-WELL WHADDYA EXPEECT ? AMERICANS PAID THEM TO TAKE IT ! AFTER ALL THEY ARE THE CHOSEN RACE!
WHEN YOU PAY SOMEONE TO ROB YOU THEY USUALLY DO?
Jim White, Morada

Stockton, CA

#15 Feb 9, 2014
February 8, 2014

To The Record,
My folks were immigrants so, while I am sympathetic to the human side of the immigration reform issue, I do NOT agree with the illegal side of it! They came here legally, so, what is wrong with abiding by the law? Yes, I support Arizona’s immigration law! My reasons are listed below and are based on four [4] quotes taken from Victor Davis Hanson’s two articles:“The Truths We Dare Not Speak About Illegal Immigration” and “Illegal Immigration: Elite Illiberality”.
QUOTE By Victor Davis Hanson:
1.“Why the Sense of Exemption? Why and how exactly do the supporters of illegal immigration justify massive disobedience of federal law? I suspect the answer is predicated in large part on the source of illegal immigration — that if it were a question of a half-million entering illegal Rwandans or Balkan peoples each year, the issue would have remained strictly a matter of legality.” For the quote [1] see article titled “The Truths We Dare Not Speak About Illegal Immigration” http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-trut...

2. Illegal Immigration-Elite Illiberality:“The divide over immigration reform is not primarily a Left/Right or Democratic/Republican divide; instead, it cuts, and sharply so, across class lines. Elites blur the distinction between legal and illegal immigration to ensure that the opponents of the latter appear to be against the former. They talk grandly of making legal immigration meritocratic, but fall silent when asked to what degree. They talk darkly of racist subtexts in the arguments of their opponents, but skip over the overt ethnic chauvinism of proponents of amnesty; they decry conservative paranoia over a new demography, but never liberal euphoria over just such a planned reset.” For the quote [2] see article titled “Illegal Immigration: Elite Illiberality” http://www.nationalreview.com/article/351213/...

3. There is now no law. Reader, let us walk through the new immigration labyrinth:(a) the federal government has chosen not to enforce, or cannot enforce, immigration law, evident by the continual residence of over 12 million illegal aliens, and an annual influx of some 500,000 to 750,000 more; (b) neither the federal government nor states (nor the courts) can demand enforcement of an existing federal law; (c) those states that pass laws emulating federal immigration statutes will have their legislation either voided by the court or neutered by the federal government; (d) but those cities who pass sanctuary laws in direct violation of federal illegal immigration statutes will have their legislation either validated or ignored by both the court and the federal and state governments. For the quote [3] see article titled “The Truths We Dare Not Speak About Illegal Immigration” http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-trut...

4. Conclusion? The federal government and federal courts prefer to ignore laws that violate their own, but void those that copy them. For the quote [4] see article titled “The Truths We Dare Not Speak About Illegal Immigration” http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-trut...
Jim White

Stockton, CA

#16 Feb 9, 2014
February 8, 2014
To The Record,
My folks were immigrants so, while I am sympathetic to the human side of the immigration reform issue, I do NOT agree with the illegal side of it! They came here legally, so, what is wrong with abiding by the law? Yes, I support Arizonas immigration law! My reasons are listed below and are based on four [4] quotes taken from Victor Davis Hansons two articles:The Truths We Dare Not Speak About Illegal Immigration and Illegal Immigration: Elite Illiberality.
QUOTE By Victor Davis Hanson:
1.Why the Sense of Exemption? Why and how exactly do the supporters of illegal immigration justify massive disobedience of federal law? I suspect the answer is predicated in large part on the source of illegal immigration that if it were a question of a half-million entering illegal Rwandans or Balkan peoples each year, the issue would have remained strictly a matter of legality. For the quote [1] see article titled The Truths We Dare Not Speak About Illegal Immigration http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-trut...
2. Illegal Immigration-Elite Illiberality:The divide over immigration reform is not primarily a Left/Right or Democratic/Republican divide; instead, it cuts, and sharply so, across class lines. Elites blur the distinction between legal and illegal immigration to ensure that the opponents of the latter appear to be against the former. They talk grandly of making legal immigration meritocratic, but fall silent when asked to what degree. They talk darkly of racist subtexts in the arguments of their opponents, but skip over the overt ethnic chauvinism of proponents of amnesty; they decry conservative paranoia over a new demography, but never liberal euphoria over just such a planned reset. For the quote [2] see article titled Illegal Immigration: Elite Illiberality http://www.nationalreview.com/article/351213/...
3. There is now no law. Reader, let us walk through the new immigration labyrinth:(a) the federal government has chosen not to enforce, or cannot enforce, immigration law, evident by the continual residence of over 12 million illegal aliens, and an annual influx of some 500,000 to 750,000 more; (b) neither the federal government nor states (nor the courts) can demand enforcement of an existing federal law; (c) those states that pass laws emulating federal immigration statutes will have their legislation either voided by the court or neutered by the federal government; (d) but those cities who pass sanctuary laws in direct violation of federal illegal immigration statutes will have their legislation either validated or ignored by both the court and the federal and state governments. For the quote [3] see article titled The Truths We Dare Not Speak About Illegal Immigration http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-trut...
4. Conclusion? The federal government and federal courts prefer to ignore laws that violate their own, but void those that copy them. For the quote [4] see article titled The Truths We Dare Not Speak About Illegal Immigration http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-trut...

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