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#136
Sep 11, 2011
 
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Question, who made the. U.S. "Their Country" and when you say their, are you referring to whites??? Cuase last i checked this country didn't belong to the whites, despite what whites would like others to believe.
I know about it, i'am black. The system is upset for American citizens. I know Mexicans always think in terms of race, but Americans are all races but one nationality.

"America may have been built on immigration, but it wasn’t the kind of mass Third World immigration that we’ve been seeing over the past 40 years."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php...
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#137
Sep 11, 2011
 
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I know about it, i'am black. The system is upset for American citizens. I know Mexicans always think in terms of race, but Americans are all races but one nationality.
"America may have been built on immigration, but it wasn’t the kind of mass Third World immigration that we’ve been seeing over the past 40 years."
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php...
What, you lost me at i am black......so i will just respond to what made a lil bit of sense....didn't quite get what you were saying... what is it that you know about? And the system is set up to help anyone in need if they are in our country, not just for American citizens because there are other races on it besides mexicans,blacks and whites(i know mexican is not a race) that are not American citizens.
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#138
Sep 12, 2011
 
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What, you lost me at i am black......so i will just respond to what made a lil bit of sense....didn't quite get what you were saying... what is it that you know about? And the system is set up to help anyone in need if they are in our country, not just for American citizens because there are other races on it besides mexicans,blacks and whites(i know mexican is not a race) that are not American citizens.
Mexicans and all foreigners who come here ILLEGALLY deserve two things, ARREST and DEPORTATION. Nothing else.
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#139
Sep 12, 2011
 
This says it well, it's not about compassion, it's about what's right and wrong.
JOE vs. JOSE Food for Thought!
You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have two parents, two children and live in Texas.
Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
Ready? Now pay attention...
Joe Legal:$25.00 per hour x 40 hours =$1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
Jose Illegal:$15.00 per hour x 40 hours =$600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has 9,631 .00.
Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline and what he sends out of the country every month.
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
Do you get it, now?
We need to keep this going--we need to make changes ASAP!
It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
What are you waiting for? Pass it on.
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#140
Sep 12, 2011
 
enuff wrote:
This says it well, it's not about compassion, it's about what's right and wrong.
JOE vs. JOSE Food for Thought!
You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have two parents, two children and live in Texas.
Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
Ready? Now pay attention...
Joe Legal:$25.00 per hour x 40 hours =$1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
Jose Illegal:$15.00 per hour x 40 hours =$600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has 9,631 .00.
Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline and what he sends out of the country every month.
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
Do you get it, now?
We need to keep this going--we need to make changes ASAP!
It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
What are you waiting for? Pass it on.
great post sir. ARREST and DEPORT.
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#141
Sep 18, 2011
 
O.k i agree its wrong for the illegals to be here, not paying taxes, but who are the people giving the illegals these jobs paying them under the table? How do you support the illegals and then complain about it.

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#142
Sep 18, 2011
 
jusplainoldumb wrote:
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What, you lost me at i am black......so i will just respond to what made a lil bit of sense....didn't quite get what you were saying... what is it that you know about? And the system is set up to help anyone in need if they are in our country, not just for American citizens because there are other races on it besides mexicans,blacks and whites(i know mexican is not a race) that are not American citizens.
"Question, who made the. U.S. "Their Country" and when you say their, are you referring to whites???"

Kind of lost me there?

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#143
Sep 18, 2011
 
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O.k i agree its wrong for the illegals to be here, not paying taxes, but who are the people giving the illegals these jobs paying them under the table? How do you support the illegals and then complain about it.
They could never be employed if they were not in the country illegally. This is not which came first, the chicken or the egg. If illegals never crossed the border there would be no hiring problem.

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#146
Sep 19, 2011
 
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That wasn't the question, once again who employs the illegals and pay them under the table??? They cross the border for a better life, their family that is here legally and illegally have told them that they can get employment, or whatever else that is being given to them by our government, is it right NO. The solution stop hiring the illegals giving them the means to support their families that are still in mexico or here. Bottom line this will never stop, there will always be illegals in or country, and we will continue to bitch and moan about. Solution, there is none. And for those that say the solution wpuld be to keep them out, guess what, it wont happen so that's not a solution
So it's the bank's fault that they hold the money and bank robbers shouldn't be blamed. They need money to feed their families and pay rent.

There is a Solution, when you are IDed as illegal, you're deported.

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#147
Sep 19, 2011
 
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If your trying to mock me from a previous post, please don't. For clarification since you seem to be lost, the subject was, there were more whites on welfare than any other race and someone posted (not in exact quote) that, that was o.k because it was THEIR COUNTRY. So my question was who made it their country and by their country were they referring to the whites. Hope that cleared it up for you
"there were more whites on welfare than any other race" so what?

The country belongs to "We the people of the United States of America" which does not include illegal aliens.
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#148
Sep 20, 2011
 
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"there were more whites on welfare than any other race" so what?
The country belongs to "We the people of the United States of America" which does not include illegal aliens.
This country does belong to WE THE PEOPLE not just the whites, you just confirmed my point thank you. I don't know any illegals that are here and getting welfare. I work for the state so for anyone to say illegals come here and get public assistance is a lie. Not gonna revisit the more whites on welfare issue, that point has already been argued and just because you are a u.s citizen doesn't give you the right to abuse the system
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#149
Sep 20, 2011
 
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So it's the bank's fault that they hold the money and bank robbers shouldn't be blamed. They need money to feed their families and pay rent.
There is a Solution, when you are IDed as illegal, you're deported.
Really????? You can really compare a bank robber to someone who is here illegal? Wow........so illegals are being deported everyday, guess what, their entering our country everyday as well....NO SOLUTION try again

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#150
Sep 20, 2011
 
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This country does belong to WE THE PEOPLE not just the whites, you just confirmed my point thank you. I don't know any illegals that are here and getting welfare. I work for the state so for anyone to say illegals come here and get public assistance is a lie. Not gonna revisit the more whites on welfare issue, that point has already been argued and just because you are a u.s citizen doesn't give you the right to abuse the system
"Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal. States where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62%), Texas, California and New York with 61% each and Pennsylvania (59%).

The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined. They include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for the disabled, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), a nutritional program known as Women, Infants and Children (WIC), food stamps, free/reduced school lunch, public housing and health insurance for the poor (Medicaid).

Food assistance and Medicaid are the programs most commonly used by illegal immigrants, mainly on behalf of their American-born children who get automatic citizenship. On the other hand, legal immigrant households take advantage of every available welfare program, according to the study, which attributes it to low education level and resulting low income.

The highest rate of welfare recipients come from the Dominican Republic (82 %), Mexico and Guatemala (75%) and Ecuador (70%), according to the report, which says welfare use tends to be high for both new arrivals and established residents."

http://www.themoralliberal.com/2011/04/05/mos...

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Sep 20, 2011
 
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Really????? You can really compare a bank robber to someone who is here illegal? Wow........so illegals are being deported everyday, guess what, their entering our country everyday as well....NO SOLUTION try again
Bank robbers won't steal your identity or cross the border carrying MDR-TB and then sit next to your child in school. They are both criminals and many are felons.

Hispanics Numero Uno in Federal Prisons.

"Hispanics already outnumber all other ethnic groups sent to prison for committing federal felonies.

Hispanics reached a new milestone for the first time this year, making up the majority of all federal offenders in the first nine months of fiscal year 2011, according to the U.S. Sentencing Commission.

Hispanics comprised 50.3 percent of all people sentenced in that time period, blacks 19.7 percent and whites 26.4 percent.

In comparison, last year Hispanics made up just 16 percent of the whole U.S. population."

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2011/0...

Illegals can come back, we have a army of ICE and border patrol agents working 24 hours a day on our behave. Come back and risk prison time & redeportation, it's no sweat off my coconuts. If that is the type of life you want to live go for it.
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Round Lake, IL

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#153
Oct 7, 2011
 
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#154
Oct 8, 2011
 
Mexico Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal
Something to consider even if you don't live in California

Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal

Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically
productive for the State of California ...

You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have 2
parents, 2 children and live in California. "Joe Legal" works in
construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with
payroll taxes deducted...."Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has
"NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week,$52,000 per
year.

Now take 30% away for state federal tax, Joe Legal now has $31,231.00

Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week,$31,200.00 per
year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes... Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00
per month,$12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00

Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and
local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00

Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare.
Joe Legal pays for food $1,000.00 per month,$12,000.00 per year. Joe
Legal now has $7,231.00

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and
Welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month.$12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal
is now in the hole minus (-)$4,769.00

Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal
pays rent.$500.00 per month.$6,000.00 per year Jose Illegal still has
$31,200.00

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after
work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe
Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a
government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school
ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services,
but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Don't vote/support any politician that supports illegal aliens...Its PAST
time to take a stand for America and Americans!
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#159
Nov 28, 2012
 
When someone enters this country illegally.

they become a criminal and should be prosecuted as such regardless of the reason they came.
GUESSWHO

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#160
Nov 28, 2012
 
ENUFF-YEAH I READ THAT ARTICLE YOUR REFERENCING -THERES A REAL GOOD ARTICLE ON WHY THE AZTEC.MESXCIANS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE ANYTHING WORTH LIVING IN IN THEIR "4,000 YEARS OF INDIGNEOUS INHABITANCE CHECK OUT NATGEO -11/10
AND NOW THE MEXICANS ARE KICKIGN OUT THE TOOLBAG ENTITLED CALIFONRIANS WHO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE MARTYRDUMB THING TO DO PAY MEXICO TO EXTORT THEIR STATE? SO THEY CAN EXPAND THEIR EVIL RACIST CORRUPT FAILED EMPIRE TO AMERICA ? AND SCAPEGOAT AMERICANS FOR ALL THEIR PROBLEMS ? AND DIVIDE AND CONQUER AMERICA FROM WITHIN?
GUESSWHO

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#161
Nov 28, 2012
 
AND NOW AFTER THE MEXICANS ARE DONE BRAINWASHING THE SOUTHWEST THEY KICK OUT THE ONES THAT HAVENT BEEN REPROGRAMMED TO BE DOWN WITH MEXICOS PAID EXPANSION RACIST AGENDA? UGH AND NOW WHILE CALIFORNIANS DUMP THEIR TRASHED OUT FEAR INFESTED CRIME RIDDEN DUMP OF A POLICE STATE ON US WE'RE SUPPOSED TO WELCOME THEM AND RESPECT THEM? WTF?
I CAN SEE WHY THE MEXICANS DIDNT WANT EM? UGH
NOW CALIFORNIANS WANNA DRESS UP AND PLAY PRETEND IN A FREE STATE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH EITHER?(just like the mexicans taught them)AND CALIFORNIANS THINK ITS JUST ONE BIG SILLY JOKE -TILL THEY HAVE TO LIVE IN THEIR OWN PROUD SELF MADE MESS AND CAN'T JUST LIVE PARASITICALLY OFF OTHERS AND DUMP ON EVERYONE ELSE TO SAVE THEIR OWN DELUSIONAL BRAINWASHED ENTITLED USELESS CRIPPLED DRUNK MENTALITY?
GUESSWHO

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#162
Nov 28, 2012
 
SPY THE WEB-AND WERE YOU AWARE THAT MEXICANS DON'T LIKE BLACKS? SO WHILE MEXICANS ARE HIDING BEHIND WHITEYS SKIRT RIDING THEIR COATTAILS(since whites are the only ones enabling these parasites)THEY WILL TAKING OUT THE BLACK POPULATION AS WELL

-IS THERES SOMETHIGN I AM MISSING HERE ?SINCE WHEN ARE "MEXICANS" GIVEN FREE CITIZENSHIP IN AMERICA BASED ON RACE WHEN IT TOOK BLACKS HOW MANY YEARS TO GET THEIRS? GOOD OL WHITEY STRIKES AGAIN STIRRIN UP THOSE 200 YEARS OF ANGER AND PENT UP BITTERNESS FOR WHITEY AGAIN!-NOTHING LIKE A GOOD RACE WAR TO BRING AMERICA TOGETHER? WTF?

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