Immigration Debate - Plains, TX

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JANA

Levelland, TX

#1 May 19, 2010
America does not need to be taxed to support people from other countrys, we need to take care of our own sick and old people, protect our borders by what ever means neccessary!
Jana

Levelland, TX

#2 Jul 21, 2010
Enought of the free Medical and welfare dollars spent on people that are not citizens of America !
Common

Fredericksburg, TX

#3 Jul 21, 2010
Jana wrote:
Enought of the free Medical and welfare dollars spent on people that are not citizens of America !
FOOD FOR THOUGHT!

Taxes
The Social Security Administration believes that about half of unauthorized immigrants pay Social Security Taxes. A 2005 New York Times piece reported that over 9 million W-2 wage forms with incorrect or false Social Security Numbers were turned into the government in 2002, a reasonable benchmark for the number of undocumented workers. These represented some $56 billion dollars in earnings,$6 billion in Social Security taxes and $1.5 billion for Medicare.

Naturally, the exact tax numbers for illegal immigrants are hard to establish, but at least it is clear they are paying into the system.

Consumption
Something else that many opponents of illegal immigration forget or choose to ignore is the consumer power of this group. UCLA's Raul Hinojosa is quoted in BusinessWeek estimating that "the total goods and services they consume ... plus all they produce for their employers, is close to about $800 billion."

Some argue that much of what illegal immigrants make doesn't benefit the U.S. economy because it is sent back to their families in Mexico and other countries in the form of remittances. Even considering the $42 billion that the World Bank says left the United States (in 2006) as remittances, that is only about 10% of illegal immigrants' wages, says Hinojosa. That leaves about $400-450 billion of that is consumptive capacity staying in the U.S.

Read more at Suite101: The Benefits of Illegal Immigration: Taxes, Consumption, and Labor Dynamism http://americanaffairs.suite101.com/article.c...
Gaston

Dallas, TX

#4 Jan 15, 2013
Semantics. The World Bank don't come close to the real number of dollars flowing south. They have no data on the amount of wire transfers made by services such as Orlandi Valuta. Underneath the excuses, such as how much they contribute to employers that illegally hire non-visa bearing workers, is the displacement of actual citizens in the market and the fact that they are, drum roll please... ILLEGAL aliens. Every document that has to be printed twice to include bilingual text, every bilingual teacher that has to be hired to teach them what a naturalized citizen must already know, and I could go on and on, ad nauseum... THERE is the cost of these felonious additions to our communities. A person that goes through the steps to enter the country legally must learn English, American History, and become assimilated as Americans. If you encounter those bereft of these most basic things, imparted by the legal immigration process, you can assume that they are not supposed to be here, or that they are anchor babies spawned by those that entered the area illegally with a high probability of success. If we all turn a blind eye to the problem, and keep employing illegal immigrants, we will reap the wind. Deservedly so.
GUESSWHO

Issaquah, WA

#5 Jan 16, 2013
GASTON-WELL THIS IS WHY THE MEXICANS ARE DICTATING "TO AMRICANS WHAT TO THINK AND DO THIS IS WHY MEXICANS DEMAND AMERICANS LEARN THEIR LANGUAGE SINCE THEY NOT AMERICA IS THE "CONQUERING COUNTRY
I WENT TO SCHOOL IN THE 80S IN HALTOM CITY AND THERE WAS ALREADY A PROMINENT MEXICAN POPULATION CREEPING IN TO NEST-MAINLY "BOAT PEOPLE" AT THE TIME WHEN CARTER PASSED THE REFUGEE ACT OF 1980 THAT LOOSENED THE QUALIFICATIONS AND NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS ALLOWED INTO AMERICA WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME -NOW ITS ALL ABOUT "DEFFERING" CITIZENSHIP,JAIL SENTENCES AND DEFERRED VISAS TO SHORTEN THE TIME IT TAKES FOR ILLEGALS TO COME BACK TO AMERICA TO BE WITH THEIR HOST FAMILIES
GUESSWHO

Issaquah, WA

#6 Jan 16, 2013
GASTON-EXAMPLE-MEXICOS CORRUPT POLITICIANS THROW "REFORM" AND "RACIAL PROFILING" WRENCHS INTO THE AMERICAN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IN ORDER TO UNDERMINE IT AND TELL AMERICANS OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS "BROKE"?
THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM PEOPLE COME HERE EVERY DAY AND THE THERES NEVER ANY WHINING ABOUT PROFILING OR REFORM IS THERE?
THIS IS WHY MEXICOS CORRUPT POLITICIANS HAVE DONE SO WELL IN THE SOUTHWEST INFILTRATING THEIR OWN IDOEOLOGY FOR YEAR ON OPEN MINDED GUILLABLE AMERICANS AND DONE WITH A SMILE AND A TACO THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT
GUESSWHO

Issaquah, WA

#7 Jan 16, 2013
I DO MISS KIPS BIG BOY HOME OF THE ORIGINAL "BIG MAC" THO!
GUESSWHO

Issaquah, WA

#8 Jan 16, 2013
GASTON-AND WHEN AMERICA IS SCAPEGOATED BY MEXICO FOR ALL THEIR OWN PROBLEMS AMERICANS TURN ON EACH OTHER TO SABOTAGE AMERICA BUT NEVER BOTHER TO LOOK AT WHY THE AZTEC/MESHICAN PEOPLE HAVE FAILED THEMSELVES DUE TO THEIR OWN GREED AND NEED FOR EXPANSION SINCE PRE AMERICA DAYS-THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COPY AMERICAN DEMOCRACY FOR YEARS AND HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO STOP THEIR OWN CORRUPTION AND SELF SABOTAGE -THUSLY WHY EVERYWHERE THEY GO TURNS INTO A BANKRUPT STATE AND "SLAVES" CREATED THOUGH BRAINWASHING AMERICANS TO THEIR FAILED IDEOLOGIES AND WAYS
GUESSWHO

Issaquah, WA

#9 Jan 16, 2013
GASTON-AS WELL AS THE WAY THAT THE AZTECS HAVE ALWAYS "TAKEN" OTHER LANDS WAS TO SCOUT AND SEND SPIES IN TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF THINGS AND STUFF THEIR NEXT CONQUERED REGIONS HAD-SPIES WORKING JOBS THERE THEN WOULD COMMENCE TO SIEZING THESES GOODS -THEY JUST WANTED THE STUFF -
UNLIKE AMERICA THEY NEVER TRIED TO IMPOSE THEIR RELIGION ON THEIR NEXT CONQUORED REGIONS
THINK ABOUT THAT NEXT TIME YOU SEE THE MEXICANS WHO COMMANDEER THE FRONT SEATS ON THE BUS WITH THEIR MULTIPLE KIDS AND HIGH 5 EACH OTHER ON THEIR SUCCESSFUL STRUGGLE
Gaston

Dallas, TX

#10 Jan 19, 2013
I agree with you on many points. Mexico is a cesspool of corruption. Americans are held hostage by the mantle of political correctness. The fringe elements has utilized the soft media as a megaphone, leading many in the US to think that is how the majority of people believe. In California, there was demonstration in which one Hispanic woman was holding up a sign that read,"America belongs to Mexico, we were here first. Learn your history". The irony of ignorance was very evident to me at that moment. Even if we were to go down that road, and lend that argument any credence, I wonder what an Apache, Pueblo, Cherokee, or Navajo would have to say to that woman. These people, telling me to learn my history?!? Ha! It left me with the impression that people, like the protester, are complete and total fools. Spewing misinformation as the means to an end. If they can't fix their own countries woes, and reclaim control of their own civil destiny, what is there to be proud of, as far as their own nationality? Nothing. Rather than drag America down the same path, I would suggest that they organize and restore Mexico to a place that it's citizens would not exodus in droves. Unwanted here, and considered traitors there. I see no reason to be proud, for them. What Mexico spews about American ideology is never heard by Americans. We are not it's intended audience. Good thing, as we really don't care about their propaganda. We do, however, care about the human flotsam that seem to be Mexico's number one export. This, notwithstanding the idiots we send to Washington.
GUESWHO

Issaquah, WA

#11 Jan 21, 2013
ASTON-FACT IS SADLY LIKE MOST SOCIALIST DICTATORS KNOW IS THAT PEOPLE LEARN ITS NOT WHAT YOU SAY ITS HOW LOUD YOU SAY IT RIGHT
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I WAS IN CALI IN 05 WHEN THIS MESS WAS PEAKING AND I COULDNT BELIEVE WHAT PEOPLE WERE DOING?
THE REALITY IS THAT MEXICANS ARE IMPOSING THEIR SOCIALIST PROPOGANDA ON AMERICANS TO SUBVERT BRAINWASH THEM TO AGREE WITH THEIR IDEOLOGY
"RACE" IS THE MEANS BY WHICH THE REAL AGENDA SOCIALISM WILL BE IMPOSED ON AMERICANS -RACE IS NOT THE REAL ISSUE BUT IT WORKS WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO ABOLISH OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM WITH "WRENCHS" LIKE IMMIGRATION REFORM OR RACIAL PROFILLING -WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE EVERY DAY IN THE RIGHT WAY AND THERES NEVER ANY WHINING ABOUT EITHER OF THOSE UNLESS MEXICO WANTS TO BUM RUSH AMERICA
GUESWHO

Issaquah, WA

#12 Jan 21, 2013
GASTON- CHECK IT OUT THE LEFT WING SOCIALIST MEDIA ENABLES
MEXICOS CORRUPT POLITICIANS TO DICTATE TO AMERICANS WHAT TO THINK AND DO
SINCE AMERICA IS THEIR OWN PERSONAL SCAPEGOATS ALL THE CHANTING EVIL RACIST AMERICA CORRUPT ETC. NAZIS ETC ARE ALL THEIR OWN IDEOLOGIES ! SURREAL EH?
MEXICO/GUATEMALA.HONDURAS ETC. ARE ALL CRIMINALLY CORRUPT SOCIALIST COUNTRIES REALIZING THIS THEY CAN DO NOTHING BUT TRY TO REFLECT AND TRANSFER THEIR PROBLEMS ON SOEMONE ELSE -ITS SHAMELESS RUTHLESS PROPOGANDA -BUT THEN AGAIN THIS IS WHY THEIR CALLED "ALIENS" BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CONSCIENCE NO SENSE OF RIGHT OR WRONG AND CARE ABOUT NOTHING BUT THEIR OWN RAZA RACE -THEY ARE HERE TO TAKE AMERICA AND HIDE BEHIND CROCODILE SMILES AND CHEAP LIP SERVICE AND ARE DOING GREAT SO FAR WITH THEIR WEAPONS OF INHUMANITY
GUESWHO

Issaquah, WA

#13 Jan 21, 2013
GAASTON -REMEMBER SOME PROMINENT SOCIALIST DICTATORS OF THE TIME HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST AS WELL AS JIM JONES AND THE PURE NERVE OF MEXICANS TO CALL AMERICANS NAZIS IS OUTRAGEOUS SINCE HOW MANY AMERICANS DIED FIGHTING NAZIS? PRETTY THIS IS THE ELEMENT THEY BRING TO AMERICA -THIS IS WHY TEXAS AND ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA ARE LOOKING JUST LIKE REFRIED MEXICO ALL OVER AGAIN -BECAUSE IT IS

BEWARE THE "TROJAN TACO"!! HEHEHEHHEEHEH SERIOUSLY THO THINK ABOUT IT
GUESWHO

Issaquah, WA

#14 Jan 21, 2013
GASTON
REMEMBER "RACE" IS THE WAYS SOCIALISM WILL BE IMPOSED ON AMERICAN DEMOCRACY!
ITS ALL ABOUT MISDIRECTION OF MISINFORMATION
TIME TO PLUG YOUR EARS AND VULCANIZE YOURSELF
DON'T ARGUE WITH THEM REMEMBER THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WANT TO PLAY AMERICAN AND WANT DEMOCRACY THEY JUST DON'T KNOW HOW SO TILL THEN ITS MONKEY SEE MONKEY DOO DOO

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