Immigration Debate - Lebanon, MO

Discuss the national Immigration debate in Lebanon, MO.

Do you support Arizona's immigration law?

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Don White

AOL

#2 May 23, 2010
If illegal immigration would have been dealt with in the past, we wouldn't have all the problems that we have now. The fewderal government won't do its job, so states, like Arizona, Texas, and some others are doing what is necessary. YES, I SUPPORT ARIZONA LAW100%
Don White

AOL

#3 May 25, 2010
since this disscussion has started, there has been rape by an illegal immigrant that has been deported 9 times already, and probbly more that I haven't heard about. I know that there was the incident of that rancher, being murdered by an illegal immigrant. If John Morton { the head of ICE} doesn't want to do his job because he thinks the law in Arizona is wrong, then I suppose Obama won't enforce the constituion because he thinks that something in it is wrong. IT IS ABOUT TIME FOR THE LAW TO BE FOLLOWED, regradless of what you personally think. We should insist on John Morton following federal law, or stepping down, so someone else will do the right thing
immigration law

Eldridge, MO

#4 Jun 15, 2010
They are doing no more than enforcing FEDERAL LAW.
Commie McCain

Warrensburg, MO

#5 Jun 16, 2010
Why do all of you bigots want to blame Obama. I dont think this problem has just occurred. Take off your blinders, people! Your bigotry is shining through. Besides, I thought we were ALL "gods" children. Funny how you all make it work to your own greedy, racist needs. jesus wouldn't be pleased with any of you. Besides, if you're going to bring the constitution into this, it is null and void. Remember "We the people"? This worthless piece of paper was written by slave owners and American Indian murderers. Hypocrites, much like yourselves. No point in arguing a moot point with blind followers, though.
Commie McCain

Topeka, KS

#6 Jun 16, 2010
racist
CELIA

United States

#7 Jun 16, 2010
DISCRIMITORY
Don White

AOL

#8 Jun 16, 2010
The Arizona law is necessary, and should have been implemented a long time ago. I hope all other states will follow the lead
Dont count on it

United States

#9 Jun 17, 2010
You are right; it is racists and discriminatory. There are more illegal immigrants from Europe and eastern countries, They are not discriminated against because they are not Latino--even though Mexico is right next door. Remember where you came from. Lebanon Missouri was settled by immigrants from Tennessee here illegally when this was Osage Indian territory--they let you stay and look what happened to them--maybe you are afraid of your own karma, afraid that Latin America will "take over" but so what, they work harder, multiply faster, and just like the bowl-weevil; they gotta have a home.
Don White

AOL

#10 Jun 17, 2010
Dont count on it wrote:
You are right; it is racists and discriminatory. There are more illegal immigrants from Europe and eastern countries, They are not discriminated against because they are not Latino--even though Mexico is right next door. Remember where you came from. Lebanon Missouri was settled by immigrants from Tennessee here illegally when this was Osage Indian territory--they let you stay and look what happened to them--maybe you are afraid of your own karma, afraid that Latin America will "take over" but so what, they work harder, multiply faster, and just like the bowl-weevil; they gotta have a home.
The immigrants from Europe and the Eastern countries didn't sneak across the border, being criminals to start with. As far as racist and discrimination goes, you are the racist, because you use your color or ethnic background for an excuse to be able to escape justice for actions that an American or LEGAL IMMIGRANT would not get away with. You are right about one thing though, the Indians allowing the white man to take over their country. That is why I hope that people wake up and not allow the same thing to happen to us, with not only the Latinos, but other immegrants that would come here illegally. That is why legal immegration is important, to limit the number of forigners comming to this country.
Mr-Socialist

Topeka, KS

#11 Jun 17, 2010
@ Don- last I checked, Indians didn't "allow" whites to take over. They were forced to leave their lands and/or murdered. Big difference, but since they're not "white" Americans or christians, I guess it doesn't matter. You people will distort history to fit your ideas. What a effin' joke. Pray for YOUR souls this Sunday.
Common

Corpus Christi, TX

#12 Jun 17, 2010
Don White wrote:
<quoted text>The immigrants from Europe and the Eastern countries didn't sneak across the border, being criminals to start with. As far as racist and discrimination goes, you are the racist, because you use your color or ethnic background for an excuse to be able to escape justice for actions that an American or LEGAL IMMIGRANT would not get away with. You are right about one thing though, the Indians allowing the white man to take over their country. That is why I hope that people wake up and not allow the same thing to happen to us, with not only the Latinos, but other immegrants that would come here illegally. That is why legal immegration is important, to limit the number of forigners comming to this country.
of course they coudnt sneak over, there in Europe!...Hello!

if it was next to the U.S., dont you think some would try, and Europe isn't a third world country.
YAWN

Eldridge, MO

#13 Jun 17, 2010
Mr-Socialist wrote:
@ Don- last I checked, Indians didn't "allow" whites to take over. They were forced to leave their lands and/or murdered. Big difference, but since they're not "white" Americans or christians, I guess it doesn't matter. You people will distort history to fit your ideas. What a effin' joke. Pray for YOUR souls this Sunday.
YAWN… Please, someone wake me up when he shuts up
Don White

AOL

#16 Jun 18, 2010
Common wrote:
<quoted text>
of course they coudnt sneak over, there in Europe!...Hello!
if it was next to the U.S., dont you think some would try, and Europe isn't a third world country.
Hey Stupid, how about the Cubans comming by boats. DUH
Mr-Socialist

Warrensburg, MO

#17 Jun 18, 2010
speaking of stupid, Don, coming only has one M. I guess since you didn't make it past the 2nd grade, you wouldn't know that. Even the Cubans could get that right. LMFAO idiot.
POST

Eldridge, MO

#19 Jun 20, 2010
CELIA wrote:
DISCRIMITORY
Commie McCain wrote:
racist
Such accusations MIGHT almost be laughable, if, they weren’t so ASININE.

Arizona is NOT determining immigration policy; they are trying to enforce the EXISTING policies by doing the job that Washington WON’T DO. What “the people” of Arizona have "determined" is that the federal government has FAILED them.

Since 1929,“ILLEGAL” entry into the United States is a FEDERAL CRIME, up to six months in prison for the first offense and 20 years for the second offense. Hiring ILLEGAL immigrants carries a maximum penalty under federal statute of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

If we lost the “ILLEGAL” migrant population of California back to Mexico. It would leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems.

Gov. Schwarzenegger in January 2010, stated that ILLEGAL aliens have cost his state BILLIONS of dollars for providing social programs, education and health care and other services. He vowed to fight for $6.9 billion reimbursement from the federal government. California has reported it is currently spending roughly $1 billion dollars PER YEAR to jail criminal ILLEGAL aliens.

In Colorado, 500,000 ILLEGAL migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and grandkids mostly from Mexico. Cost Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 billion) annually in taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social services and incarceration costs. Additionally estimating 12,000 ILLEGAL migrant gang members in Denver alone.

Emergency medical treatment which US taxpayer money provides $250 million a year to help hospitals defray costs for ILLEGAL aliens.

Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs on its 7,300 alien criminals now incarcerated. Denver’s Public School system would not be suffering a 67 percent drop out/flunk out rate via thousands of ILLEGAL alien students currently speaking 41 different languages.

In Florida, 1.5 million ILLEGAL’S would return the Sunshine State back to America, the rule of law and English.

In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million ILLEGAL’S would free up hospitals, schools, prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free experience.

The National Research Council found American taxpayers shell out $2,682.00 for EACH immigrant household.

CBS News reported that, 300,000 pregnant Mexican women cross the border to birth their babies, known as 'anchor babies', in American hospitals at an average cost of $6,000.00 per birth with no complications. If the child suffers heart defects, Downs Syndrome, Autism or any other problems, the costs jump to $500,000.00 with long-term care into the millions of dollars. All footed by the America taxpayer!

The costs for providing those 'FREE' services are being shifted over into higher taxes and insurance costs. As a result, many inner city hospitals are closing or moving, schools and agencies are stretched to the limit, taxes are on the increase.

Because government managers have FAILED to manage the EXISTING immigration laws, how will they manage a new and greatly expanded immigration program they are proposing? Because ILLEGAL immigrants have failed to follow the EXISTING laws, why would anyone think they'd suddenly come forward and follow more immigration laws or pay fines?

http://www.immigrationcounters.com/

CURRENTLY:
Illegal Aliens in Country $22,849,765
Other Than Mexican Illegals in Country $582,327
Cost of Social Services Since 1996 $397,461,634,767
Children of Illegals in Public Schools $5,081,956
Cost of Illegals in K-12 Since 1996 $168,686,458,881
Illegal Aliens Incarcerated 424,489
Cost of Incarcerations Since 2008 $25,806,876,325
Illegal Alien Fugitives 744,905
Anchor Babies Since 2002 4,989,068
Skilled Jobs Provided to Illegal Aliens 11,659,699
YAWN

Eldridge, MO

#20 Jun 20, 2010
Mr-Socialist wrote:
@ Yawn- typical. let me guess, you're a christian ,too? what if it was your land, family graves, and history being killed, burned, hunted? I don't think you'd be yawning. All you people on this forum are F*CKING idiots. The only history you want to remember is what's in the fake bible and about some make believe jew. Pathetic.
YAWN... You mean Stupid, I mean "Mr." Socialist is "STILL" ramblimg on?!
UPSET the BABY

Eldridge, MO

#21 Jun 20, 2010
Mr-Socialist wrote:
@ Yawn- typical. let me guess, you're a christian ,too? what if it was your land, family graves, and history being killed, burned, hunted? I don't think you'd be yawning. All you people on this forum are F*CKING idiots. The only history you want to remember is what's in the fake bible and about some make believe jew. Pathetic.
“Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a CHILD?”
HAY DON!
I think we UPSET the BABY!!! Haha
A REAL TOOL

Eldridge, MO

#22 Jun 20, 2010
Mr-Socialist wrote:
@ Yawn- typical. let me guess, you're a christian ,too? what if it was your land, family graves, and history being killed, burned, hunted? I don't think you'd be yawning. All you people on this forum are F*CKING idiots. The only history you want to remember is what's in the fake bible and about some make believe jew. Pathetic.
This guy is a REAL piece of work. To coin his vernacular, a real "TOOL.”

He rants and raves over Native American issues, that “no one” sited. Then this Anti-Semite turns around and condemns the Hebrew Nation and its people.

It’s obvious reading his threads that he’s a few bricks shy of a load, and about as sharp as a bowl of Jello. You know… all crown - no filling. HaHa!
Mr-Socialist

Warrensburg, MO

#23 Jun 20, 2010
Your name is fitting. You are a real tool. LMAO I was only dissin' one jew, anyways. He's a make believe one, at that.
Haha

Eldridge, MO

#24 Jun 20, 2010
Mr-Socialist wrote:
Your name is fitting. You are a real tool. LMAO I was only dissin' one jew, anyways. He's a make believe one, at that.
Oooooooo,that really hurt! Haha Your so juvenile!

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