Immigration Debate - Las Vegas, NV

Discuss the national Immigration debate in Las Vegas, NV.

Do you support Arizona's immigration law?

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david

Houston, TX

#1 May 19, 2010
no it is bias and races...they just made to arrest latino
Whizper

Carmel, CA

#2 May 19, 2010
So if a latino breaks a law, should they arrest a Unbangy?
Vegaslandfill

Las Vegas, NV

#3 May 19, 2010
E PLURIBUS UNUM
Stu Padasol

Twin Falls, ID

#4 May 19, 2010
I support the law, illegals are costing this country to much money in services.
EJ

Cleburne, TX

#5 May 19, 2010
As a minority in this country, I cannot support any law that specifically targets a specific group of people. Growing up in South Los Angeles in the 80's, I fit the profile of the prototypical gang member (young, black and male). Because of this, I was constantly stopped, detained, questioned, searched and sometimes handcuffed by police on the street. Illegal immigrants are an epidemic in Arizona much the same way that gangs were an epidemic in Los Angeles during the 80’s and 90’s. I've heard supporters say that this Arizona bill expressly forbids racial profiling. If you fit the profile of the prototypical illegal alien in Arizona, you will get stopped. What does the prototypical illegal alien in Arizona look like? Probably anyone with brown skin. Supporters of the law says that getting stopped by the police and questioned about your immigration status is no big deal if you are in the country legally. Most supporters will also tell you that they would have no problem showing officers their driver license or other documents to demonstrate residency status. I don’t know anyone who enjoys getting stopped by the police. I have never met anyone who was stopped by the police who ended up saying,“that was fun, I hope they stop me again soon.” Quite frankly, most people, if stopped by the police twice in the same month, would become annoyed. Yet, they dare to say that they would have no problem getting stopped and showing identification. It’s fairly easy to make declarations about what your reaction would be until you actually experience the situation firsthand. As far as I am concerned, ever encounter a person has with the police is dangerous and potentially deadly, even if the person being stopped is in the absolute right. Most people don’t understand this because it is not their reality but as a black man in Los Angeles, it was certainly my reality. Everytime I was stopped in Los Angeles, with one exception, was at gunpoint. I learned much later in life that the LAPD can’t stop you at gunpoint just for the hell of it…well, I shouldn’t say can’t because they obviously did. Supporters of the Arizona law also says that the police can’t just pull you over or stop you on the street for no reason. I am no legal expert of the laws of every municipality in the United States, but I would have to go out on a limb and say that probable cause in needed just about everywhere before the police can stop someone. Cops know how to get around that! I’m sure young, black and male wasn’t officially probable cause in Los Angeles to stop someone, but they did it. If a police officer wants to pull you over, they will find a reason to do it. A lot of Americans favor this law and say that we who opposes it are anti-American and supports of illegal aliens. I disagree. I, like many others who opposes this bill, have no problem supporting the enforcement of immigration laws. My problem is the method being used to enforce immigration laws. I understand the problem and what Arizona is trying to accomplish but I cannot support the means by which they are trying to accomplish their goal. When the LAPD was trying to eradicate gangs in the 80’s and 90’s, they basically criminalized all blacks in South Los Angeles, non-gang members and gang member alike. Did we want to see these gang-banging thugs off our streets? Of course, but I didn’t like LAPD pulling guns on me everytime they stopped me because I was young, black and male to accomplish this goal! The same thing will occur in Arizona. It may be their intention, but when this law goes into effect in Arizona, it will eventually lead to the criminalization of every Hispanic in Arizona. This law will sweep up legal Hispanics and illegal Hispanics alike, and as I previously stated, no encounter with the police is ever a pleasant one.
Whizper

Seaside, CA

#6 May 19, 2010
EJ Wrote: "This law will sweep up legal Hispanics and illegal Hispanics alike, and as I previously stated, no encounter with the police is ever a pleasant one."

Again I ask....When a latino breaks the law, who should be arrested? The lawbreaker.

Lawbreakers fear the law, law enforcement, jail and deportation.

If you spent half as much energy encouraging people to get their documents straight, and perhaps prepare them to defend themselves...like have a valid drivers license, insurance papers, green cards, etc.....you could be doing a much better service for the American Citizens of the United States and Arizona.

With your race baiting accusations of racial profiling you are taking the position that nobody can be stopped for breaking the law unless they are white....and that includes the first step an illegal immigrant steps foot in the USA....who by the way are predominantly Mexican.

Your position supports and welcomes more invaders.



browncoat

Altamonte Springs, FL

#7 May 19, 2010
Whizper wrote:
So if a latino breaks a law, should they arrest a Unbangy?
Since when do Mexicans qualify as a Latino? First they were then Chicanos now they are Latins!?!
A true Latino is a male from/or has ancestry from Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, Romania and other smaller countries and provinces in Europe.
American education strikes again!
Whizper

Seaside, CA

#9 May 19, 2010
browncoat - didn't answer the question either.

Can anyone answer the question? Appears Not.

“Traveling man”

Since: Nov 09

Las Vegas Nevada

#10 May 19, 2010
The illegals have taken over the country.
Electricidad

Las Vegas, NV

#12 May 19, 2010
Someone has to have a spine, AZ hasn't had a chance to act on the law yet. Obama won't. so who is left to secure the countries borders?
Daniel

Newport Beach, CA

#13 May 19, 2010
Whizper wrote:
EJ Wrote: "This law will sweep up legal Hispanics and illegal Hispanics alike, and as I previously stated, no encounter with the police is ever a pleasant one."
Again I ask....When a latino breaks the law, who should be arrested? The lawbreaker.
Lawbreakers fear the law, law enforcement, jail and deportation.
If you spent half as much energy encouraging people to get their documents straight, and perhaps prepare them to defend themselves...like have a valid drivers license, insurance papers, green cards, etc.....you could be doing a much better service for the American Citizens of the United States and Arizona.
With your race baiting accusations of racial profiling you are taking the position that nobody can be stopped for breaking the law unless they are white....and that includes the first step an illegal immigrant steps foot in the USA....who by the way are predominantly Mexican.
Your position supports and welcomes more invaders.
Well said. Thank you.
Boycot LA

Los Angeles, CA

#14 May 19, 2010
browncoat wrote:
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Since when do Mexicans qualify as a Latino? First they were then Chicanos now they are Latins!?!
A true Latino is a male from/or has ancestry from Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, Romania and other smaller countries and provinces in Europe.
American education strikes again!
There is definitely an identity issue here as well. I spend a lot time in Mexico and most people in Mexico can't really identify what they are, other than Mexican. Spanish, Indian, indiginous...they can't identify themeselves - so who are they. This is a fun topic to discuss with them because most of the time they'll look at you with a puzzled look on their face, because they don't know.

You're absolutely correct, if you look at the root of Latin, it doesn't originate in South America. Most people don't realize that fact.
Daniel

Newport Beach, CA

#15 May 19, 2010
browncoat wrote:
<quoted text>
Since when do Mexicans qualify as a Latino? First they were then Chicanos now they are Latins!?!
A true Latino is a male from/or has ancestry from Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, Romania and other smaller countries and provinces in Europe.
American education strikes again!
Your brown coat is because your full of crap. Don't ever call an Italian or the French a LATINO. That would be an insult.
Spytheweb

Charlotte, NC

#16 May 20, 2010
Every country in the world have these types of laws. If you go to France you must provide a passport and visa to enter, illegals think they don't need to cross the border. Countries have a right to know who's entering for their safety.

Since: Apr 10

Charlotte, NC

#17 May 20, 2010
Here in Las Vegas NV we have 230,000 illegals. NV is looking into enacting the AZ law. NV does not want the over flow of illegals coming from AZ to come here, plus the ones here to move on, hopefully back to their country.

Turn them into ICE!!!
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
(1-866-347-2423)
http://www.ice.gov

Since: Apr 10

Charlotte, NC

#18 May 20, 2010
EJ, Mesquite, TX,

Illegals are playing you, they have you on their side. Every country in the world have laws that govern visitors to their country. Illegals bypass these laws with your approval. Ever been outside of the US? You are required to carry ID with you along with a passport/visa, even in Mexico.

Illegals don't have a defense for being here illegally but profiling will provide them cover, they do not want to be identified and deported, they don't care about your rights as a citizen. I favor national ID cards for US citizens to receive any social services, to get a job, driver license, vote, fly on a plane, schools and school funding. ID cards would be better than a fence along with e-verify for employees and employers, heavy fines and jail time for employers.

So people can stop the vision of people being stopped for a ID check. There are of illegals breaking laws now who will be found out and deported. This law 73% of American approve it.

596 criminal aliens arrested by ICE.

Arrests in Florida and Puerto Rico accounted for the largest number of apprehensions during the operation where a total of 258 aliens were taken into custody. The Atlanta Field Office recorded the next highest number of arrests with 232. The arrestees, 544 men and 55 women, represent 60 different nations, including countries in Latin America, Asia, Europe, Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

http://www.ice.gov/pi/nr/1004/100430washingto...
B Phillips

Las Vegas, NV

#19 May 20, 2010
Arizona should have the right to secure it's southern border. In any other country you have to show your passport or visa to cross into that country. As a Citizen of this country I am asked for my identification for many things that I do. I do not see this as an infringment on my rights nor should those in Arizona.
chris jones

Las Vegas, NV

#20 May 20, 2010
all for it make them come into America legally
Edward W Morgan

Las Vegas, NV

#21 May 20, 2010
I think ALL illegals should be checked! sent back! go threw the proper, legal channels! Speak English!!
FED UP!!

Las Vegas, NV

#22 May 20, 2010
We have broken borders with no help from the fed's!! Arizona has a huge problem with cartels ,drugs, human smugglers, and Illegals. The citizens in Arizona are fed up and so is America!!!

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