Immigrant Amnesty Debate - Oklahoma City, OK

Discuss the national Immigrant Amnesty debate in Oklahoma City, OK.

Do you support Gingrich's suggestion to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants with deep roots in the U.S.?

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“Jesus beat satan”

Since: Nov 07

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#1 Nov 30, 2011
Stupid people, the wicked ETs are going to use that and some of these hispanics ARE ETs!! The evil ones!
Snark Sucks Bad

Oklahoma City, OK

#2 Nov 30, 2011
Zenis, they let you out too soon. You're still not anywhere near balanced yet. Not even for you.

“Jesus beat satan”

Since: Nov 07

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#3 Dec 5, 2011
Snark Sucks Bad wrote:
Zenis, they let you out too soon. You're still not anywhere near balanced yet. Not even for you.
Are you a being of light who supports GOD'S divine plan?

“Jesus beat satan”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#4 Dec 5, 2011
And when are there going to be additional laws and enforcement of immigration laws the the Sky border?
Zena Sucked Me It Was Bad

Oklahoma City, OK

#5 Dec 7, 2011
Zena Princess wrote:
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Are you a being of light who supports GOD'S divine plan?
Are you?

“Jesus beat satan”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#6 Dec 9, 2011
Zena Sucked Me It Was Bad wrote:
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Are you?
Clearly you are not and are a lying, cowardly satanist changing your name. You must leave now.
Snark Faither

Oklahoma City, OK

#8 Dec 10, 2011
Zena Princess wrote:
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Clearly you are not and are a lying, cowardly satanist changing your name. You must leave now.
Make me, South Robinson Street Walker
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#10 Dec 15, 2011
Fast and Furious Scandal wrote:
1) International bankers
2) Guns are outlawed
3) The corrupt church (Catholic in this case)
4) The international banker's private security force ,In this case the CIA,
5) Kids are forced to take a live cancer shot (Gardasil)

The ellites and their bought out government puppets are out of control.
This is the constant crap put out my fanatics.
Blame everyone for all the problems. Look at that list.
The Catholic Church ( bet he ain't Catholic ) and the CIA.
There's always some nut like this is every crowd.

Usually they're the ones with the aluminum hats
and the fear of aliens.
Truth For Dummies

Arcadia, CA

#11 Dec 15, 2011
WarForOil wrote:
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This is the constant crap put out my fanatics.
Blame everyone for all the problems. Look at that list.
The Catholic Church ( bet he ain't Catholic ) and the CIA.
There's always some nut like this is every crowd.
Usually they're the ones with the aluminum hats
and the fear of aliens.
So fast and furious doesn't exist? You better get of the meds skippy.
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#12 Dec 15, 2011
Truth For Dummies wrote:
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So fast and furious doesn't exist? You better get of the meds skippy.
Who cares about 'Fast and Furious'. Bushette
started 2 wars on lies and no one noticed.
You failed to mention the accompaning complaints
about Catholics and the CIA so you must agree
and wear a tin hat too.

Tell us again how you were probed by aliens.
Americans InThis Together

Duarte, CA

#13 Dec 16, 2011
WarForOil wrote:
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Who cares about 'Fast and Furious'. Bushette
started 2 wars on lies and no one noticed.
You failed to mention the accompaning complaints
about Catholics and the CIA so you must agree
and wear a tin hat too.
Tell us again how you were probed by aliens.
What do you mean failed to mention complaints about the CIA and Catholics? I can't stand both. Read it again...

The reason Fast and Furious is important is can get Obama ousted.

And look I can't stand the Bushes either. They started Fast and Furious, Obama continued it. Bush's went into Iraq, Obama went into Libya and wants war with Iran. All this is a waste of money and boom for oil companies.

A few years ago I thought this stuff was crap just like you -conspiracy crap. Now I'm watching things go nuts in this country.

Look, download one Alex Jones show and judge for yourself. We all have a right to our opinions. Keep an open mind. Take care, we might have more in common than you think.
Jane

Euless, TX

#14 Jan 9, 2012
It's the most common sense thing to do.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#15 Jan 12, 2012
Jane wrote:
It's the most common sense thing to do.
Where does it stop?

“Resident Husky”

Since: Aug 09

Ralphie

#16 Jan 12, 2012
On topic: If your illegal you need to get legal or get out, plain and simple.

“Hooah!”

Since: Jan 12

OKC

#17 Mar 10, 2012
Just give them amnesty and actually enforce the laws that are on the books now. Make their penalty be no income tax refund for 10 years or something like that.
The Nazi's tried to round up millions at one point and we (USA) didn't do anything to stop it until it was too late for 6 million Jews. So from a historical standpoint, that option would never fly across the US. Too much collective guilt, and rightly so.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#18 Mar 11, 2012
El Guapo89 wrote:
Just give them amnesty and actually enforce the laws that are on the books now. Make their penalty be no income tax refund for 10 years or something like that.
The Nazi's tried to round up millions at one point and we (USA) didn't do anything to stop it until it was too late for 6 million Jews. So from a historical standpoint, that option would never fly across the US. Too much collective guilt, and rightly so.
Enforce the laws on the books, no amnesty. Amnesty was tried in 1986 and now look at the mess we have.

We don't have to round anybody up. Just wait for them to break the law, driving drunk, document fraud, e-Verify, traffic stops, close down 14th amendment no birthright citizenship. I have no guilt, deport illegal aliens and their children.

“Hooah!”

Since: Jan 12

OKC

#19 Mar 12, 2012
spytheweb wrote:
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Enforce the laws on the books, no amnesty. Amnesty was tried in 1986 and now look at the mess we have.
We don't have to round anybody up. Just wait for them to break the law, driving drunk, document fraud, e-Verify, traffic stops, close down 14th amendment no birthright citizenship. I have no guilt, deport illegal aliens and their children.
The vast majority will not commit further violations as they are honest citizens (in the sense that all they want to do is provide for their family). That is the point that most people (anti-illegals) cannot admit to. Those that do should be punished and deported as the law already requires. As far as birthright citizenship goes, that is a Constitutional right, and has been interpreted as such. It will not change, nor should it. People should research the debates that went on throughout the 1800's in Germanay regarding birthright citizenship for Jew's. The same points are brought up time and time again (by anti-illegals). That's why I always say that the rhetoric of the anti-illegals could be a sound-bite from Goebbels' propaganda machine. Read "Hitler's willing executioners, Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust" by Daniel J. Goldhagen for an insight that is chilling.

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#20 Mar 13, 2012
El Guapo89 wrote:
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The vast majority will not commit further violations as they are honest citizens (in the sense that all they want to do is provide for their family). That is the point that most people (anti-illegals) cannot admit to. Those that do should be punished and deported as the law already requires. As far as birthright citizenship goes, that is a Constitutional right, and has been interpreted as such. It will not change, nor should it. People should research the debates that went on throughout the 1800's in Germanay regarding birthright citizenship for Jew's. The same points are brought up time and time again (by anti-illegals). That's why I always say that the rhetoric of the anti-illegals could be a sound-bite from Goebbels' propaganda machine. Read "Hitler's willing executioners, Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust" by Daniel J. Goldhagen for an insight that is chilling.


No country wants illegal aliens. I'am black and traveled to many countries, Korea, Japan, Philippines, Germany, Denmark, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Mexico and Canada. I never had any problems entering any country and you know why? Because i had my paperwork in order.

"The vast majority will not commit further violations as they are honest citizens (in the sense that all they want to do is provide for their family)."

They have to pay for violations they have done. They are not citizens, they are illegal aliens. I don't care if they want to provide for their families.

"As far as birthright citizenship goes, that is a Constitutional right, and has been interpreted as such."

You mean you are hoping it will not, but it will. It's not a Constitutional right.

"Supreme Court decisions

The correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment is that an illegal alien mother is subject to the jurisdiction of her native country, as is her baby.

Over a century ago, the Supreme Court appropriately confirmed this restricted interpretation of citizenship in the so-called "Slaughter-House cases" [83 US 36 (1873) and 112 US 94 (1884)]13. In the 1884 Elk v.Wilkins case12, the phrase "subject to its jurisdiction" was interpreted to exclude "children of ministers, consuls, and citizens of foreign states born within the United States." In Elk, the American Indian claimant was considered not an American citizen because the law required him to be "not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance."

The Court essentially stated that the status of the parents determines the citizenship of the child. To qualify children for birthright citizenship, based on the 14th Amendment, parents must owe "direct and immediate allegiance" to the U.S. and be "completely subject" to its jurisdiction. In other words, they must be United States citizens.

Congress subsequently passed a special act to grant full citizenship to American Indians, who were not citizens even through they were born within the borders of the United States. The Citizens Act of 1924, codified in 8USCS▀1401, provides that:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe."
http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citize...

The Snyder Act of 1924 allowed Indians to be born US citizens. There is no such act for illegal aliens.
Sue

Mcloud, OK

#21 Mar 13, 2012
I have worked at co. in okla. that dose hire undocumented immigrants.At one of them immigrantion came in and 50 people ran out the back door.Most of that co. is in mexcio now.At other co.one of the works had 4 ID's.Don't you think Americans want or need these jobs( By the way the co.s cash their ck so there is little to no document of their working there.
Sue

Mcloud, OK

#22 Mar 13, 2012
El Guapo89 wrote:
Just give them amnesty and actually enforce the laws that are on the books now. Make their penalty be no income tax refund for 10 years or something like that.
The Nazi's tried to round up millions at one point and we (USA) didn't do anything to stop it until it was too late for 6 million Jews. So from a historical standpoint, that option would never fly across the US. Too much collective g.uilt, and rightly so.
DON'T compare illegal aliens to the the Jews.You need to read alot more about what the Jews when though.Americans are not killing,are cutin off parts of their bodies for fun,puting them in work camps and working them in death camps,or making sure they never have babies.When you learn a lot more about the Nazi's then you might be able see what you said is so wrong,Americans just want illegal aliens to go back where they came from and come in the legal way.

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