Immigrant Amnesty Debate - Keyport, NJ

Discuss the national Immigrant Amnesty debate in Keyport, NJ.

Do you support Gingrich's suggestion to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants with deep roots in the U.S.?

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Dave77

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Feb 28, 2012
 
Thank you. A thorough, intellectual answer that leaves no room for any of these liberals to double talk. I'll even go further. If you subtract the billions of dollars spent each year for health care provided to illegals then we really make out in the deal. Regardless. Illegals in this country cost us money and resources. For any person or group to openly support illegals entering and staying in this country is just crazy.

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Mar 1, 2012
 
Dave77 wrote:
Thank you. A thorough, intellectual answer that leaves no room for any of these liberals to double talk. I'll even go further. If you subtract the billions of dollars spent each year for health care provided to illegals then we really make out in the deal. Regardless. Illegals in this country cost us money and resources. For any person or group to openly support illegals entering and staying in this country is just crazy.


I'am a liberal. The illegal alien issue is not a democrat or republican issue, it's a American issue that should unite us.
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Mar 1, 2012
 
You're absolutely right. But it has to start with those who claim it affects them most. Hispanic Americans. I don't like any of those terms because I think it furthers racial problems. Americans who came from Hispanic roots. They're the ones who have to step up and fight back against those who make life difficult for them. The illegals. Not the police. Not the government or ICE, but the illegals. Illegals are sheltered and protected based soley on their race. I've always said i wish people would choose a side. Americans or illegals. As far as I'm concerned when anyone protects illegals and allows them to stay in this country it borders on treason. They're siding with citizens from other countries instead of Americans.
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Mar 3, 2012
 
No, thats a falsehood. Children born here from illegal immigrants are not citizens. First line of the 14th Amendment. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. The second sentence after the word AND clearly states subject to the juristiction of. Since illegals are subject to the juristicition of other countries they're children do too. I always use the story of the mexican dipolmat who came to the US in 2007 with his pregnant wife on a diplomatic mission. While here she delivered her child in a Dallas hospital. The diplomat was asked, since his child was born in the US is he an American? The diplomat said, ACCORDING TO YOUR 14TH AMENDMENT I FALL UNDER THE JURISTICTION OF THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT. THEREFORE MY SON IS MEXICAN NOT AMERICAN. Plain and simple. The man gave no doubt that our 14th Amendment is abused and interpreted for liberals to allow anchor babies to stay in this country. Illegals have to leave. Until the Amendment is upgraded with better wording illegals should be given the option. Leave the children with an American family or take them back to the parents home until they turn legal age. No one is seperating them. The illegals put themselves in that position. let them figure out what they want to do.
Dave77

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Mar 3, 2012
 
Because our laws are not being enforced properly. ICE is making arrests and conducting the deportations. If we fixed the amendment so it clearly stated anchor babies are not citizens illegals wouldn't come here for that purpose. health care is another matter. Like I said we shouldn't be making the decision of breaking up families. The illegals should have the situation thrown back in their laps. They put themselves into the situation not us. It is their problem, not ours. They need to take responsibility for putting themselves in a position where members of a family are separated. Not us. I'm pretty tired of people saying we're unfeeling because families are separated. NO THE ILLEGALS DID THE ENTIRE THINGS. They created the mess that follows after they violate our borders and they should be responsible for everything that happens. It's really not a negotiable issue.

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#30
Mar 6, 2012
 
Juan wrote:
We do the job american guy thro away.we work hard not like american guy take many long break no go work always call sick and go compensation.
If Mexicans work so hard, why is Mexico still a dump? Why can't Mexicans put together a system that works?

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Mar 6, 2012
 
HungryforBooty wrote:
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lol its not false,if you watch Univision and hispanic newsites,you will see illegal parents having to leave their kids behind as they get deported, the parents always get deported not the children,you are overthinking things.
Parents are always the parents and have the right to have their children with them, if they want them.
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#32
Mar 6, 2012
 
I read articles like this all of the time. Many posters absolve illegals from the responsibility of the problem they caused. They violated our borders. They hid in our country knowing full well the crimes they commit. AND MOST OF ALL THEY KNOW THE PENALTY IF THEY'RE CAUGHT. It's the United States fault that illegals put themselves in a situation where they could be deported and possibly be separated from their children. IT'S COMPLETELY THEIR FAULT!!! I wish during discussion people would at least acknowledge the role that illegals started in the first place. And then stop there.

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Mar 8, 2012
 
HungryforBooty wrote:
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Mexico has its problems, cant expect every society to achieve similar success, Mexico has a growing Economy, and despite having troubles is going to be a future great country.


In a thousand years, maybe.

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Mar 10, 2012
 
HungryforBooty wrote:
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When Im 70 years old Mexico will have achieved first world status. Id suggest you keep spying the web for porn.
Mexico better get moving then, they have alot of ground to cover.

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