Immigrant Amnesty Debate - Haymarket, VA

Discuss the national Immigrant Amnesty debate in Haymarket, VA.

Do you support Gingrich's suggestion to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants with deep roots in the U.S.?

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Nathanael Snow

Gainesville, VA

#1 Dec 30, 2011
I believe in open borders
s

Bristow, VA

#2 Dec 30, 2011
The term is ILLEGAL ALIEN...every single one of them is a criminal
Susan

United States

#3 Dec 31, 2011
to us descendants of native americans, you are all illegal alians
woo

Bristow, VA

#4 Dec 31, 2011
Susan,
I've never heard the "native people" (who themselves are immigrants from across an ice bridge...) refer to themselves as "native americans"...
cut the racism

Haymarket, VA

#5 Dec 31, 2011
No one owns these lands except God. Cut the racism out. Make illegal aliens pay takes on their way to amnesty so we can help our troubled economy.

Make them pay a sizeable fine, like 15k, or join the military, in order to pass the amnesty test.

No criminal records allowed.
Glenkirk Estate

Bristow, VA

#6 Jan 1, 2012
Two wrongs don't make a right. If you are here illegally granting you amnesty doesn't make it ok.
Nathanael Snow

Gainesville, VA

#7 Jan 2, 2012
Glenkirk Estate wrote:
Two wrongs don't make a right. If you are here illegally granting you amnesty doesn't make it ok.
Calling something legal does not make it right.
Quotas on immigration are artificial protectionist measures that are contrary to liberty. They are evil laws, should be repealed, and ought to be broken when human life or liberty is at stake.
I will provide refuge to migrants facing deportation due to these evil laws, even if it means I have to go to jail.
Last of the White Racists

Haymarket, VA

#8 Jan 2, 2012
It is interesting all of the white racists who cheat on their taxes, and the small things like the speed limit and commit various other crimes also push so hard with illegality claims on immigration.

It is illegal if they dont do it.

Hey racists if I join the army,(I am latino) and my parents illegally brought me here -- am I ok now? Am I ok now as long as I pick up a rifle where lazy college white boys and others dont?

Can I have my green card then?

What a hypocritical nonsense.
Dave

Fairfax, VA

#9 Jan 3, 2012
Susan wrote:
to us descendants of native americans, you are all illegal alians
you mean siberian americans right? And didn't ya'll kill each other for land while it was just you siberian americans? Like really really brutally? I get it, indians were simple peace pipe smoking pacifists, yeah that's the ticket
Dave

Fairfax, VA

#10 Jan 3, 2012
Last of the White Racists wrote:
It is interesting all of the white racists who cheat on their taxes, and the small things like the speed limit and commit various other crimes also push so hard with illegality claims on immigration.
It is illegal if they dont do it.
Hey racists if I join the army,(I am latino) and my parents illegally brought me here -- am I ok now? Am I ok now as long as I pick up a rifle where lazy college white boys and others dont?
Can I have my green card then?
What a hypocritical nonsense.
Our border should be a open as any country that has majority latinos. Guess how open those borders are?
Glenkirk Estate

Bristow, VA

#11 Jan 4, 2012
Nathanael Snow wrote:
<quoted text>Calling something legal does not make it right.
Quotas on immigration are artificial protectionist measures that are contrary to liberty. They are evil laws, should be repealed, and ought to be broken when human life or liberty is at stake.
I will provide refuge to migrants facing deportation due to these evil laws, even if it means I have to go to jail.
Not having these "evil laws" means chaos and lawlessness. Every nation on the face of this planet controls its immigration quotas. You can't open the boarders to everyone, immigration will usually follow economic opportunities.
Glenkirk Estate

Bristow, VA

#12 Jan 4, 2012
Last of the White Racists wrote:
It is interesting all of the white racists who cheat on their taxes, and the small things like the speed limit and commit various other crimes also push so hard with illegality claims on immigration.

It is illegal if they dont do it.

Hey racists if I join the army,(I am latino) and my parents illegally brought me here -- am I ok now? Am I ok now as long as I pick up a rifle where lazy college white boys and others dont?

Can I have my green card then?

What a hypocritical nonsense.
not all wrongs are equal, and there is no moral high ground you can take on this issue. It's simple, balance the number if foreigners coming in and stop illegal boarder crossing PERIOD.
Nathanael Snow

Washington, DC

#13 Jan 5, 2012
Immigration laws are relatively new to the landscape, actually. The earliest were passed in the late 1800s in order to keep Chinese workers out. Actually it was passed to kick the Chinese who helped build the railroads out so that they would not be able to take part in the CA gold rush.
Every subsequent migration law was designed to keep out racially or culturally undesired competition.
Matthew Sorens book, "Welcoming the Stranger" has a more detailed history of these awful protectionist laws.
Kik

Haymarket, VA

#14 Jan 5, 2012
Jobs
Durpa

Alexandria, VA

#15 Jan 6, 2012
Why would we further incentivize illegal immigration with an amnesty program for those with "deep roots"? It would just be one more motivation for people to come here illegally and establish a family dependent on tax-payer funded social services. And, for the record, my very best friends are Hispanic and I'm married to a LEGAL immigrant. She went through the trouble of doing it the legal way, and she has to pay her way. No more free rides or incentives on the backs of tax payers who aren't afforded the same free services they're covering for illegal immigrants.
Durpa

Alexandria, VA

#16 Jan 6, 2012
Nathanael Snow wrote:
I believe in open borders
So did the 9/11 hijackers and the attempted millennium bomber. Borders are what make a sovereign country. Do you believe in a single world government to go along with those open borders?
Durpa

Alexandria, VA

#17 Jan 6, 2012
Last of the White Racists wrote:
It is interesting all of the white racists who cheat on their taxes, and the small things like the speed limit and commit various other crimes also push so hard with illegality claims on immigration.
It is illegal if they dont do it.
Hey racists if I join the army,(I am latino) and my parents illegally brought me here -- am I ok now? Am I ok now as long as I pick up a rifle where lazy college white boys and others dont?
Can I have my green card then?
What a hypocritical nonsense.
"What a hypocritical nonsense" is right. So according to you only whites can be racists...nothing racist about that, huh? What about legal vs illegal do you fail to understand? Some of my closest friends are Latino, and many other races. I'm just as much against a white European coming here illegal than someone from Latin America, Asia, or the Middle East. Cut through the propaganda and think for yourself. It's not about race, it's about the law and people not wanting to foot the bill for folks here illegally. And before you resort to racist generalizations, I'm not a "lazy college white boy".
Cindy

Alexandria, VA

#18 Jan 6, 2012
Durpa wrote:
<quoted text>
"What a hypocritical nonsense" is right. So according to you only whites can be racists...nothing racist about that, huh? What about legal vs illegal do you fail to understand? Some of my closest friends are Latino, and many other races. I'm just as much against a white European coming here illegal than someone from Latin America, Asia, or the Middle East. Cut through the propaganda and think for yourself. It's not about race, it's about the law and people not wanting to foot the bill for folks here illegally. And before you resort to racist generalizations, I'm not a "lazy college white boy".
This joker has been whining about white college students for years cause his pretend girlfriend banged a bunch of them. He's a poseur, realizes it, and is simply lashing out.
Durpa

Alexandria, VA

#19 Jan 6, 2012
Cindy wrote:
<quoted text>
This joker has been whining about white college students for years cause his pretend girlfriend banged a bunch of them. He's a poseur, realizes it, and is simply lashing out.
Hahaha...That explains it. Thanks for the back story. I always love to see the blind hypocrisy of people who assume anybody opposed to illegal immigration is A) white, and B) a racist.
qurius

Alexandria, VA

#20 Jan 6, 2012
It is easier to welcome a citizen than try to seek out illegal people. We should know you every personliving in the US really is!

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