Health Care Debate - Seattle, WA

Discuss the national Health Care debate in Seattle, WA.

Do you support President Obama's health care policy?

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Since: Mar 10

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#178 Mar 3, 2011
T.V MAN-THANK YOU OH WISE ONE FOR ENLIGHTENING ME YES INDEED IGNORANCE IS BLISS!
TV MAN

United States

#179 Mar 3, 2011
orkin33 wrote:
T.V MAN-THANK YOU OH WISE ONE FOR ENLIGHTENING ME YES INDEED IGNORANCE IS BLISS!
You must be speaking of your own ignorance, I make choices based on results. Results don't lie.
Patricia Emerick

Seattle, WA

#180 Aug 22, 2012
I understand that people fear change, but this will be a change for the better - making sure that more people have health coverage. There will be problems as there always are with new programs, but they will be worked out.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#181 Aug 23, 2012
Patricia Emerick wrote:
I understand that people fear change, but this will be a change for the better - making sure that more people have health coverage. There will be problems as there always are with new programs, but they will be worked out.
I really hate to counter this, because I seriously need better health care, but the bill was one written specifically to generate higher profits for the insurance companies and addresses none of the truly serious problems often ignored in the health care industry. Insurance can work as an industry, health care itself cannot, and that's the root of the problem. I predicted the bill would be taken apart like this, and now all that remains is the profit for insurance companies. I am very disappointed in this outcome, but I expected it.

Since: Dec 10

Seattle

#182 Aug 27, 2012
It's better than nothing! It makes sense to have Universal health care for all!
Jeremy

Spokane, WA

#183 Sep 3, 2012
Anything to help sick people is ok for me.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#184 Sep 3, 2012
-Farah- wrote:
It's better than nothing! It makes sense to have Universal health care for all!
There is a serious flaw in this thinking. Initiating a system that is ripe for corruption makes it worse than nothing, initiating a system that's ripe for corruption when something really needs to be fixed is insanity. Doctors will still be denying patients care, they'll just find different reasons for it. Doctors will still be controlling who gets what treatment, they'll just have more ways to collect money for it. Medical procedures will still cost ten times what other countries charge, it will just be paid for from a pool instead of the individual. Not that Mitt's crap is any better smelling, considering it's the exact same bill.

Since: Dec 10

Seattle

#186 Sep 12, 2012
Obviously a single payer type system is the best! A mandate for health care is what ALL first world nations have!*rollseyes*

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#187 Sep 14, 2012
Government is incapable of keeping expenses down. Bureaucrats will have the final say in what level of healthcare one will receive. The only thing known about his program is that we all have received a massive tax hike and likely will have to pay out of pocket for everything or face much higher insurance costs. After a certain age you will cut out of the healthcare system. This policy will undoubtedly slow down the progression of medical technology.
RockyS

Seattle, WA

#188 Dec 10, 2012
affectively, turns a for profit industry into a cost containment program run by the government, and paid for by taxation.
ronone

Pittsburgh, PA

#189 Dec 12, 2012
youtube.com/watch... … I really want to know if the Homeless are covered and Aborition under Obamacare?

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#190 Jan 18, 2013
Did you know that no matter what gun control laws are passed by the federal government, they can only be enforced in your area if your county sheriff allows them to be.

Most people, including politicians fail to realize that the ultimate legal authorities in the land are the county sheriffs. This was established from the time of the Founding Fathers and upheld by the US Supreme Court in the 1997 case of Printz v. United States. Initially, the case was Mack v. United States, but by the time it reached the Supreme Court it was renamed.

The case involved new federal regulations involved with the Brady Bill and gun control. FBI agents went around to the various county sheriffs and demanded that they follow the new federal guidelines. Then Graham County (AZ) Sheriff Richard Mack and several others saw the Brady Bill as being unconstitutional and refused to impose the new federal guidelines. Part of their defense was that the county sheriff was the supreme law enforcement officer over their county and that the federal government could not supersede their legal authority.

In the court’s decision, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote:

“... The great innovation of this design was that ‘our citizens would have two political capacities, one state and one federal, each protected from incursion by the other’”–“a legal system unprecedented in form and design, establishing two orders of government, each with its own direct relationship, its own privity, its own set of mutual rights and obligations to the people who sustain it and are governed by it.”(P.920)

Justice Scalia then quoted the man considered to be the Father of the US Constitution, President James Madison, when he wrote in the decision:

“[T]he local or municipal authorities form distinct and independent portions of the supremacy, no more subject, within their respective spheres, to the general authority than the general authority is subject to them, within its own sphere.” The Federalist, No. 39 at 245.

Scalia then referred to Gregory, 501 US at 458 when he wrote:

“This separation of the two spheres is one of the Constitution’s structural protections of liberty:‘Just as the separation and independence of the coordinate branches of the Federal Government serve to prevent the accumulation of excessive power in any one branch, a healthy balance of power between the States and the Federal Government will reduce the risk of tyranny and abuse from either front.’...”

Referring once again to President Madison, Scalia wrote:

“In the compound republic of America, the power surrendered by the people is first divided between two distinct governments, and then the portion allotted to each subdivided among distinct and separate departments. Hence a double security arises to the rights of the people. The different governments will control each other, at the same time that each will be controlled by itself.”(P. 922).

In other words, the county sheriff is the highest governmental authority in his county and he does not have to bow to the tyranny of the federal government if he deems such actions to be unconstitutional or unlawful. In essence, the county sheriff has more legal authority within his county than the governor or the state or even the president of the United States.
Pfc Daniel A Benedett

Centereach, NY

#195 May 14, 2013
Marine Missing from Vietnam War to be Buried with Crew

The Department of Defense POW/Missing Personnel Office announced today that the remains of a serviceman, missing from the Vietnam War, was recently accounted for and will be buried along with the 12 other servicemen who were lost in the same crash.

Marine Corps Pfc. Daniel A. Benedett of Seattle, Wash., will be buried May 15, at Arlington National Cemetery, along with Air Force 2nd Lt. Richard Vandegeer of Cleveland, Ohio; Navy Hospital Corpsman 1st Class Bernard Gause Jr., of Birmingham, Ala.; Hospitalman Ronald J. Manning of Steubenville, Ohio; Marine Corps servicemen Lance Cpl. Gregory S. Copenhaver of Lewistown, Pa.; Lance Cpl. Andres Garcia of Carlsbad, N.M.; Pfc. Lynn Blessing of Lancaster, Pa.; Pfc. Walter Boyd of Portsmouth, Va.; Pfc. James J. Jacques of La Junta, Colo.; Pfc. James R. Maxwell of Memphis, Tenn.; Pfc. Richard W. Rivernburgh of Schenectady, N.Y.; Pfc. Antonio R. Sandoval of San Antonio, Texas; and Pfc. Kelton R. Turner of St. Louis, Mo.

On May 12, 1975, Khmer Rouge gunboats captured the S.S. Mayaguez in the Gulf of Thailand, approximately 60 nautical miles off the coast of Cambodia. After the vessel was taken to Koh Tang Island, U.S. aircraft began surveillance flights around the island. When efforts to secure the release of the ship and its crew failed, U.S. military forces began a rescue mission.

Three days after the Mayaguez seizure, the Air Force dispatched six helicopters to the island. One of the helicopters came under heavy enemy fire and crashed into the surf with 26 men on board. Thirteen of the men were rescued at sea, leaving Benedett and 12 other service members unaccounted-for from the crash.

Between 1991 and 2008, investigators conducted more than 10 investigations and excavations, led by Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC). On three occasions, Cambodian authorities turned over remains believed to be those of American servicemen. In 1995, U.S. and Cambodian specialists conducted an underwater recovery of the helicopter crash site where they located remains, personal effects and aircraft debris associated with the loss. Between 2000 and 2004, all of the missing service members from this helicopter, except Benedett, were accounted-for.

On Jan. 30, 2013, Benedett was accounted-for. Scientists from JPAC and the Armed Forces Identification Laboratory (AFDIL) used circumstantial evidence and DNA process of elimination to account for his remains.

Today, more than 1,600 Americans remain unaccounted for from the Vietnam War. The U.S. government continues to work closely with the governments of Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia to recover Americans lost during the Vietnam War.
Kathie

Bellevue, WA

#196 May 15, 2013
It's far from affordable! We won't have enough DR to go around. Why should they stay? A terrible bill.

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#197 May 15, 2013
Kathie wrote:
It's far from affordable! We won't have enough DR to go around. Why should they stay? A terrible bill.
Medical insurance premiums are expected to go up 400% due to Obamacare, plus we get to pay the Obamacare tax on top of that. It's like having a second mortgage payment.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#198 Jun 17, 2013
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>Medical insurance premiums are expected to go up 400% due to Obamacare, plus we get to pay the Obamacare tax on top of that. It's like having a second mortgage payment.
Keep watching....World will probably explode someday....what about that?

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#199 Jun 17, 2013
Got Blue Balls Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Keep watching....World will probably explode someday....what about that?
Who cares what you have to say. You're nothing more than a paid DNC hack. Go back to your campaign fund raisers, little shill. <¦-o

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#200 Jun 18, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
I really hate to counter this, because I seriously need better health care, but the bill was one written specifically to generate higher profits for the insurance companies and addresses none of the truly serious problems often ignored in the health care industry. Insurance can work as an industry, health care itself cannot, and that's the root of the problem. I predicted the bill would be taken apart like this, and now all that remains is the profit for insurance companies. I am very disappointed in this outcome, but I expected it.
This is just the Fox mantra.....i already have fox on cable.....Too partisan for me....

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#201 Jun 18, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>This is just the Fox mantra.....i already have fox on cable.....Too partisan for me....
Where did I mention parties? You brought up parties, not I.
Reagan In Hell

Seattle, WA

#202 Jun 19, 2013
The hard right and their minions will do anything to defeat affordable health care.

Why?

Think about it!

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