Health Care Debate - San Diego, CA

[TV MAN]

Sweet Bennie is done, turn him over. Health care will not be repealed,suck it up Bennie.

[Kay Elam]

It's a Tax! It's a Tax! It's a Tax!!!

[TV MAN]

Kay Elam wrote:

It's a Tax! It's a Tax! It's a Tax!!!

So what, So what, So what. Taxes are lower then they've been in 60 years, look where it got you. In debt up to your ears. Seventy percent of all debt is due to social security, medicare, medicade, and mandatory programs. You can't cut enough, and gain the votes one needs. Almost all of the independents understand. Smart people get it. You need taxes, and cut backs to achieve your goal. Obama is willing. Republicans will lose the majority of independent votes. Independents will decide this election.

[get lost loser]

TV MAN wrote:

<quoted text>So what, So what, So what. Taxes are lower then they've been in 60 years, look where it got you. In debt up to your ears. Seventy percent of all debt is due to social security, medicare, medicade, and mandatory programs. You can't cut enough, and gain the votes one needs. Almost all of the independents understand. Smart people get it. You need taxes, and cut backs to achieve your goal. Obama is willing. Republicans will lose the majority of independent votes. Independents will decide this election.

And they said it wouldn't happen.

Obamacare-like “Death Panels” are already emptying out hospital beds in the United Kingdom. According to one report last year the UK’s National Health Service (NHS) euthanized 130,000, mostly expendable seniors. Its benignly named “Care Pathways”, kills almost 360 people every day.
Now it’s Obamcare’s turn to euthanize undesirables. The Supreme Court gave Barack Obama the right to start his own extermination program. Anybody who needs “a little bit too much care” will get put on Obama’s list. If you were born before January 1, 1953 he has put a target on your back. You had better not get sick and you had better pray someone derails Obamcare’s euthanasia train before a “Death Panel” gavel comes down on your life. When Obama’s verdict is death for you there can be no appeal – that’s in the bill.

This system needs your death to appear to work. That is the reality of the Supreme Court’s ruling – make believe that’s not a clear and present danger and you are fooling yourself – it’s that simple and that serious.
Government programs NEVER cost near what the liars in Washington tell us they will. Simple observation tells us Obamacare is a giant Ponzi scheme. Under Obamacare, you will become a number and government bureaucrats will kill off “numbers” to make their program seem to work. They will ration care and kill off the old (60 plus) the mentally and the physically challenged.
Democrats rightly claim the phrase “Death Panels” does not appear in Obamacare’s 2000 plus pages, but why should it? They don’t want us to recognize what they are really up to; liberals never do. Saying Obamacare has no “Death Panels” because those two words aren’t in the bill is a cynical lie. The Nazis never sent Jews to “Extermination camps” or gas chambers; they sent them to “Work camps and showers.”
Liberal Paul Krugman got it right when he slipped and said,“Some years down the pike, we’re going to get the real solution, which is going to be a combination of death panels and sales taxes…..”
Obamacare is early death wrapped in government double talk disguised to keep us from understanding the truth. Some years down the pike, we’re going to get the truth. That truth is that to these people we’re all just numbers they will spend their careers trying to find ways to reduce. Let’s do something about it now. Vote conservative in November.

[get lost loser]

I just checked with English NHS svc. They have verified the above. In addition their cost reduction is due to people speaking "Over the "Tele" instead of speaking to their Doctors face to face. This is one of the many stories I had gotten from their own website:

About NHS Direct
• NHS Direct’s aim is to provide people in England with expert health advice,
information and reassurance to care for themselves at home or access
appropriate healthcare, using world class telephone and website services.
• The NHS Direct health information and advice line handles 15,000 calls a day.
That’s over 5 million calls a year.
• The NHS Direct website (www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk ) receives around 1.5 million visits
each month.
• NHS Direct employs over 3,400 staff, over 1,400 of whom are trained nurses.

You can see where this is going. You soon enough will not be allowed to speak, or chose to visit your PC doctor, as the Government health service will screen your calls, and advise you to speak to a trained NURSE. Would you rather speak to your MD instead of a "Trained Nurse"?
AARP had instituted this on a minor level, and now that Obama-care has passed, he will cut the services to the elderly, inorder to make room for the 56 million additional people he will pay for.
In case any of you are 65 or older, find out for yourself if starting in 2014, you will not have to meet with a health panel run by the government, every 6 months. They will go over all of the treatments you receive, and what medication you can take. Ask your representative to explain this feature to you. If he is a Democrat, you had better speak "Double-talk". Remember, Nancy Pewlosy
had told the House members "you have to pass the health bill, inorder to know what is in it". Research it for yourself, if you doubt that is what had happened, because the House, and the Senate were controlled by the Democrats who had the majority in both houses, and there was no way for the Republicans to stop it.
Wake up America, you will be killing your parents, and your grandparents. The last two years of Bush, he couldn't get anything done because the Democrats controlled both houses.
And even with that, Obama still hasn't passed a budget since he took office. He will blame everyone for his failings, and I guess the only person yet he hasn't blamed is GOD(because I doubt that he believes in HIM)

[SSgt Scott E Dickinson]

The Department of Defense announced today the death of Staff Sgt. Scott E. Dickinson, 29, of San Diego, Calif., who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
       Staff Sgt. Dickinson, died Aug. 10 while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force.
           The Marines’ parent command was 3rd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, 3rd Marine Division, III Marine Expeditionary Force in Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii.

[Sgt Camella M Steedley]

The Department of Defense announced today the death of a Marine who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

Sgt. Camella M. Steedley, 31, of San Diego, Calif., died Oct. 3, while supporting combat operations in Helmand province, Afghanistan. She was assigned to Combat Logistics Regiment 17, 1st Marine Logistics Group, I Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Pendleton, Calif.

The cause of death is under investigation.

[potato tree]

It took courage and leadership to do what he did.

[save your souls]

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we petition the obama administration to:
Put an end to the destruction of unborn babies through Abortions.

women are now having abortions because they do not like the sex of the fetus. If they had to pay for those abortions we will see how quickly the abortions would diminish.

The government is wasting millions of dollars, to permit women to act as prostitutes, and have no fear of becoming pregnant, for they can get an abortion. This act not only destroys the unborn child, but also destroys the woman that has them. Their minds, and morals will suffer because of an act sanctioned by the US Government.
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we petition the obama administration to:
Put an end to the destruction of unborn babies through Abortions.
women are now having abortions because they do not like the sex of the fetus. If they had to pay for those abortions we will see how quickly the abortions would diminish.
The government is wasting millions of dollars, to permit women to act as prostitutes, and have no fear of becoming pregnant, for they can get an abortion. This act not only destroys the unborn child, but also destroys the woman that has them. Their minds, and morals will suffer because of an act sanctioned by the US Government.
Created: Nov 13, 2012
Issues: Human Rights
Learn about Petition Thresholds
Signatures needed by December 13, 2012 to reach goal of 25,000
24,998
Total signatures on this petition
2
Sign this Petition
A whitehouse.gov account is required to sign Petitions, and that only requires you to give your email address, thats all.

no gov. money goes here fool why do you bare false witness nothing in the Bible about having a rapist's baby or dying to have a child

[T. Wood]

It is bad for companies and everyone is going to close or lay off their employees or lessen their hours

[fact check]

[QUOTE who="T. Wood"]It is bad for companies and everyone is going to close or lay off their employees or lessen their hours[/QUOTE]BS

[Bruser]

fact check wrote:

<quoted text>no gov. money goes here fool why do you bare false witness nothing in the Bible about having a rapist's baby or dying to have a child

Fact Idiot
Know what you are talking about both the New testatment and the old Testament are against abortions, only thing in their time it was called he Murder of unborn. Fool, read the Bible before you try to make statements.

[Bruser]

More of this in the next 4 years. Embarrassed by him yet?
"Stupid is, as Stupid does" Way to go Obama!

By: Nile Gardiner

Original Article: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardine...

It is only two weeks since his re-election, and his second term remains two months away, but Barack Obama is already blundering again on the world stage, with the kind of gaffes that would have been plastered on the front page of The New York Times if they had been committed by George W. Bush when he was in the White House. Obama’s first term was littered with foreign policy gaffes, and there is every chance the second term will be more of the same.

On his trip to Asia this week, President Obama struggled to pronounce the name of Aung San Suu Kyi, the most prominent human rights activist in the world. As The Associated Press reports (hat tip: Drudge Report):

As Obama stood next to the world’s most recognized democracy icon, he mispronounced her name repeatedly.

Ever gracious, Suu Kyi did not correct her American guest for calling her Aung YAN Suu Kyi multiple times during his statement to reporters after their meeting.

Proper pronunciation for the Nobel laureate’s name is Ahng Sahn Soo Chee.

Obama also “botched” his greeting of Burma’s new president, according to the AP:

The meeting came after Obama met with Myanmar’s reformist new President Thein Sein – a name he also botched.

As the two addressed the media, Obama called his counterpart “President Sein,” an awkward, slightly affectionate reference that would make most Burmese cringe.

Note to presidential advisers: For future rounds of diplomacy, the president of Myanmar is President Thein Sein – on first and second reference.

In addition, as The Weekly Standard notes, Obama was quick to use the Burmese regime’s preferred word “Myanmar”, to describe Burma, which is not the term officially used by the US government, or by Burma’s opposition activists.

President Barack Obama called Burma ‘Myanmar’ after a bilateral meeting with Thein Sein, the president of that country. From the pool report:

Obama used the word “Myanmar,” the preferred terminology of the former military government and currently nominally civilian government, in a spray following the bilat, rather than use “Burma,” the former name of the country, and the one preferred by Aung San Suu Kyi as well as the name the U.S. uses.

“I’ve shared with him the fact that I recognize this is just the first steps on what will be a long journey,” Obama told reporters, with Thein Sein at his side.“But we think a process of democratic and economic reform here in Myanmar that has been begun by the president is one that can lead to incredible development opportunities.

It is rather embarrassing, as well as sad, that the leader of the free world can’t even pronounce the name of the most famous human rights activist on the planet. Or that he is so quick to appease Burma’s authoritarian regime by calling it “Myanmar”. Barack Obama’s gaffes demonstrate not only a marked lack of attention to detail and a high degree of amateurishness on the part of the White House, but also a disturbing willingness to curry favour with unsavoury regimes. Hardly a good omen for Obama’s second term.

Do research on these FACT CHECK, and choke on it!!

[Spc Trinidad Santiago]

The Department of Defense announced today the death of Spc. Trinidad Santiago Jr., 25, of San Diego, Calif. who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. 

Spc. Santiago died May 2, in Camp Buehring, Kuwait, of injuries sustained in a vehicle accident.  He was assigned to 4th Battalion, 42nd Field Artillery Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo.