Health Care Debate - San Diego, CA

Discuss the national Health Care debate in San Diego, CA.

Do you support President Obama's health care policy?

San Diego opposes
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33

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ru kidding

Mattoon, IL

#246 Jan 20, 2012
FuckingObama wrote:
This damn health care has cost us billions.
So he reduced this cost with a bill.
The Congress has recently approved major health care legislation in the form of two pieces of legislation: the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA, Public Law 111-148); and, following that, the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 (H.R. 4872), which made a number of changes to provisions of PPACA along with significant changes to the federal postsecondary education programs.

On March 20, 2010, CBO released its final cost estimate for the reconciliation act, which encompassed the effects of both pieces of legislation. Table 1 (on page 5) provides a broad summary and Table 2 offers a detailed breakdown of the budgetary effects of the two pieces of legislation. CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) estimate that enacting both pieces of legislation will produce a net reduction in federal deficits of $143 billion over the 2010-2019 period. About $124 billion of that savings stems from provisions dealing with health care and federal revenues; the other $19 billion results from the education provisions. Those figures do not include potential costs that would be funded through future appropriations (those are discussed on pages 10-11 of the cost estimate).

CBO and JCT estimate that by 2019, the two pieces of legislation combined will reduce the number of nonelderly people who are uninsured by about 32 million, leaving about 23 million nonelderly residents uninsured. Those findings are presented in Table 4, along with the budgetary effects of the various provisions related to health insurance coverage. Table 5 shows the budgetary impact of the health care provisions that are not related to health insurance coverage (primarily involving the Medicare program). The impact of revenue provisions is reported separately by JCT.
http://www.cbo.gov/publications/collections/h...

And what some Republicans call the word of God agrees.
ru kidding

Mattoon, IL

#247 Jan 20, 2012
One year into the Obama administration and gun rights advocates have had little to fear. In fact, movements are underway across the country to adopt legislation aiding those who own firearms, contrary to fearful predictions early last year that the new presidency would spell bad news. In addition to President Barack Obama approving a federal plan to allow guns in national parks, the White House has done little to bring back the federal ban on assault rifles or close the loophole that allows unlicensed dealers at gun shows to sell firearms without background checks.
http://www.allgov.com/Top_Stories/ViewNews/Gu...
More of Obama being more to the right than previous Republicans.

Even as the Obama administration fights Arizona's extreme immigration law, it deports more illegal immigrants than previous administrations with tougher platforms on the topic. The Washington Post reports:

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...
Regan let them in by the millions, and made them citizens.

Posted on 12/12/2003 3:00:50 PM by Wolfstar

President Ronald Reagan was the first president in history to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. On November 6, 1986, he signed into law the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986,[PUB L 99-603]. In so doing, he set a precedent whereby the United States would not seek to deport illegal aliens, but to reward their lawbreaking by granting them full citizenship.

Following is a brief excerpt from lengthy remarks by none other than Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W-VA), speaking on the senate floor in July 2001 against proposals for another amnesty [DOCID:cr23jy01-105]:

Such an amnesty suggests that it is possible to gain permanent residency in the United States regardless of whether you are an alien who arrived here legally or illegally.

That is the message that was sent in 1986 when President Reagan proposed a blanket amnesty to 2.7 million illegal immigrants based largely on the mere fact that they had lived in this country at least since 1982. I supported that amnesty, after accepting the arguments of the Reagan administration that such an amnesty would reduce illegal immigration when combined with tougher sanctions on employers who hire illegal aliens.

What happened instead, was that the United States sent a message to the world that illegal immigrants could gain legal status in the United States without having to go through the normal processes. Consequently,
TV MAN

United States

#249 Jan 20, 2012
A Message for RU:

Hey RU, I spent News Years in ICU.
Heart congestion.
My heart rate reached 150.
I retained fluid.

The "Good News" all of my Arterys were perfect.
Zero blockage, not even a little.
No Diabetes.
No High Blood Pressure.
No High Cholesterol.
Perfect weight.

The Bad News:
A weak Left Ventricule, pumping only 20% of the blood. Ejection Rate.
Most likly caused by influenza bacteria.
The bacteria is gone, yet it left my Left Ventricule tired and weak.
If it doesn't regain strength to 35% or more, they might put in a de-fibulator.
The odds of my heart stopping are better then those above 35%.
To be on the careful side they might want me to have a De-Fibulator.
Most people have other compilations.
Since my arterys are healthy, and I don't have other compilations, they might let me fly with only a few meds.
All the congestion is gone and I'm feeling great.
You're the expert, what's my chances?


It could be 90 days to one year for the left ventricule to gain strength.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
ru kidding

Mattoon, IL

#250 Jan 23, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
A Message for RU:
Hey RU, I spent News Years in ICU.
Heart congestion.
My heart rate reached 150.
I retained fluid.
The "Good News" all of my Arterys were perfect.
Zero blockage, not even a little.
No Diabetes.
No High Blood Pressure.
No High Cholesterol.
Perfect weight.
The Bad News:
A weak Left Ventricule, pumping only 20% of the blood. Ejection Rate.
Most likly caused by influenza bacteria.
The bacteria is gone, yet it left my Left Ventricule tired and weak.
If it doesn't regain strength to 35% or more, they might put in a de-fibulator.
The odds of my heart stopping are better then those above 35%.
To be on the careful side they might want me to have a De-Fibulator.
Most people have other compilations.
Since my arterys are healthy, and I don't have other compilations, they might let me fly with only a few meds.
All the congestion is gone and I'm feeling great.
You're the expert, what's my chances?
It could be 90 days to one year for the left ventricule to gain strength.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Thoughts and prayers are with U TV.
TV MAN

United States

#252 Jan 23, 2012
ru kidding wrote:
<quoted text>Thoughts and prayers are with U TV.
Thanks, however I'm feeling great. The med's are working and I feel normal. I musy admit, I miss a good glass of wine. One more thing. I'm glad I had insurance.
ru kidding

Mattoon, IL

#253 Jan 24, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks, however I'm feeling great. The med's are working and I feel normal. I musy admit, I miss a good glass of wine. One more thing. I'm glad I had insurance.
The stuff is a must, I would guess you received better care because of having it. That is not always true but at times it is so true.
ru kidding

Mattoon, IL

#254 Jan 24, 2012
It is good to know you are feeling good; if you are off the water pills you are probably doing less running.
TV MAN

United States

#255 Jan 24, 2012
ru kidding wrote:
It is good to know you are feeling good; if you are off the water pills you are probably doing less running.
Still on one, however walking works. Go back for a check up Thursday. Everything seems fine. By the way, the hospital team and doctors, were great. Great room and great food. Yet, no fine wine!
American!

San Diego, CA

#256 Jan 24, 2012
keep the big O out of my business
TV MAN

United States

#257 Jan 25, 2012
[QUOTE who="American!"]keep the big O out of my business[/QUOTE]The big O isn't in your business, it's the insurance and drug companys. Trusting those companys are like trusting Wall Street. Government makes law, Insurance companys run health care. get your facts right if you want to complain.
justsayN

San Diego, CA

#258 Jan 25, 2012
[QUOTE who="American!"]keep the big O out of my business[/QUOTE]

Your business is everybody's business including the government's. It's been like that since the founding of America. Don't like it, then get the Puck out.
TV MAN

United States

#259 Jan 26, 2012
justsayN wrote:
<quoted text>
Your business is everybody's business including the government's. It's been like that since the founding of America. Don't like it, then get the Puck out.
I'm not the one complaining, maybe it's you that needs to get the puck out. I'm stating a fact. Insurance and drug companys run health care. Not Obama. The top 1% run America, including the large corporations that own 70% of all assets. Get it straight if you want to complain. The proof is in front of you. It's called results. Look who owns everything.
get lost loser

Massapequa, NY

#260 Feb 1, 2012
Obama Eligibility Challenges Spread To 6 States
Posted by Breaking News on January 31, 2012 ∑ Comments (45)

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An administrative law judge in Georgia could decide as early as this week whether voters in the state convinced him Barack Obamaís name should be removed from the 2012 presidential ballot because he is not qualified to hold the office.

But win, lose or draw, the fight isnít going to be over, as other cases are erupting across the nation, with challenges being raised anew even in Obamaís own adopted political network in Illinois
TV MAN

United States

#261 Feb 2, 2012
get lost loser wrote:
Obama Eligibility Challenges Spread To 6 States
Posted by Breaking News on January 31, 2012 ∑ Comments (45)
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An administrative law judge in Georgia could decide as early as this week whether voters in the state convinced him Barack Obamaís name should be removed from the 2012 presidential ballot because he is not qualified to hold the office.
But win, lose or draw, the fight isnít going to be over, as other cases are erupting across the nation, with challenges being raised anew even in Obamaís own adopted political network in Illinois
Yawning again.
ru kidding

Mattoon, IL

#263 Feb 2, 2012
get lost loser wrote:
Obama Eligibility Challenges Spread To 6 States
Posted by Breaking News on January 31, 2012 ∑ Comments (45)
inShare.8
An administrative law judge in Georgia could decide as early as this week whether voters in the state convinced him Barack Obamaís name should be removed from the 2012 presidential ballot because he is not qualified to hold the office.
But win, lose or draw, the fight isnít going to be over, as other cases are erupting across the nation, with challenges being raised anew even in Obamaís own adopted political network in Illinois
even trump would say to you........you know

Since: May 12

Carlsbad, CA

#264 May 1, 2012
I have governmnet health insurance and through the VA, and my disability claim is being screwed... imagine they wil screw everyone through some governmnet asgency that has no person helping you, just fighting you..

Since: May 12

Carlsbad, CA

#265 May 1, 2012
governmnet health care, Veterans disability claims deny deny until you die, they ignore evidence then you are put on a backlog for many years, while you die and your claim rots.. dey, deny, appeal,, then you die waiting...
Sgt Nicholas C Fredsti

Huntington Station, NY

#268 Jun 17, 2012
Sgt. Nicholas C. Fredsti, 30, of San Diego, Calif., died June 15, in Spedar, Afghanistan, when insurgents attacked his unit with small arms fire. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.
Sweet Bennie

Massapequa, NY

#269 Jun 30, 2012
Pass this one around to anyone you know.
THEY IMPEACHED NIXON, AND BECAUSE OF FAST AND FURIOUS, THE SAME SHOULD HAPPEN TO OBAMA. WATCH
THIS PRESS INTERVIEW,IT IS FROM THEIR OWN MOUTHS.
Eric Holder, and Napolitano, should go with him.

Sgt Nicholas C Fredsti

Hicksville, NY

#270 Jun 30, 2012
Sgt. Nicholas C. Fredsti, 30, of San Diego, Calif., died June 15, in Spedar, Afghanistan, when insurgents attacked his unit with small arms fire. He was assigned to 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.

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