Health Care Debate - Petersburg, VA

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Do you support President Obama's health care policy?

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Oldman2

AOL

#1 Oct 13, 2009
Too expensive & LESS mdeical coverage
Morgan

AOL

#3 Jan 5, 2010
It wont work & it's far too expensive & Obama LIED to everyone about it.
Pennsylvania st Resident

Colonial Heights, VA

#4 Aug 12, 2011
Politicians lie, that is a fact. lazy, overpaid, worthless
diane

Petersburg, VA

#5 Aug 12, 2011
yes yes yes
TV MAN

United States

#6 Aug 12, 2011
If not this health care plan, what would you recommend? Surley, not the status quo. Insurance companies are mostly scams. How to profit by legally not providing services. Is that what you want?
Pennsylvania st Resident

Colonial Heights, VA

#7 Aug 15, 2011
TV MAN wrote:
If not this health care plan, what would you recommend? Surley, not the status quo. Insurance companies are mostly scams. How to profit by legally not providing services. Is that what you want?
YOU SIMPLY KEEP A RUNNING AD FOR CNA'S AND THEN FIRE THE DEADWOOD, i AM GREAT AT THAT, A LOT OF PRACTICE. THE BEST FOR THE PATIENT IS THE GOAL AND THEY ARE THE BOSS. THE STAFF ARE THE SERVANTS FOR THE BEST IN PATIENT CARE. THESE LAZY CNA'S SEEM TO THINK THAT THE PATIENT IS THERE FOR THEM. QUITE THE OPPOSITE. CLEAN AND WELL TENDED TO WILL BRING UP THE MONTHLYS AND THE QUARTERLYS. YOU WANT RESULTS, I HAVE THE KEY. WORK AND MORE WORK, MEDS ON TIME FOOD GOOD AND TASTY AND WARM ENOUGH. NO DEHYDRATION NO DIRTY DIAPERS, NO PLUGGED G-TUBES. GET THE PIC???!!!
TV MAN

United States

#8 Aug 15, 2011
Pennsylvania st Resident wrote:
<quoted text> YOU SIMPLY KEEP A RUNNING AD FOR CNA'S AND THEN FIRE THE DEADWOOD, i AM GREAT AT THAT, A LOT OF PRACTICE. THE BEST FOR THE PATIENT IS THE GOAL AND THEY ARE THE BOSS. THE STAFF ARE THE SERVANTS FOR THE BEST IN PATIENT CARE. THESE LAZY CNA'S SEEM TO THINK THAT THE PATIENT IS THERE FOR THEM. QUITE THE OPPOSITE. CLEAN AND WELL TENDED TO WILL BRING UP THE MONTHLYS AND THE QUARTERLYS. YOU WANT RESULTS, I HAVE THE KEY. WORK AND MORE WORK, MEDS ON TIME FOOD GOOD AND TASTY AND WARM ENOUGH. NO DEHYDRATION NO DIRTY DIAPERS, NO PLUGGED G-TUBES. GET THE PIC???!!!
I agree, Pennsylvania. You sound like someone that could make a difference. Good for you. Common Sense always wins.
wondering about wow

Petersburg, VA

#9 Dec 9, 2011
he has no idea
TV MAN

United States

#10 Dec 9, 2011
wondering about wow wrote:
he has no idea
What's your idea?
Slurpee Summit

Petersburg, VA

#11 Dec 10, 2011
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>What's your idea?
Look at the national map, those in opposition are very small and don't represent much in electoral votes.

Very interesting poll to discover the truth of the wants of the American people. VERY VERY INTERESTING.
TV MAN

United States

#12 Dec 10, 2011
Slurpee Summit wrote:
<quoted text> Look at the national map, those in opposition are very small and don't represent much in electoral votes.
Very interesting poll to discover the truth of the wants of the American people. VERY VERY INTERESTING.
What is it, that American people want? Do they think the top 1% are responsible for creating most of our jobs? Do Americans think government is bad and free markets don't need their help? Tell me what you think.
UNKNOWN

Petersburg, VA

#13 Dec 10, 2011
when he pays his fAIR SHARE
The German Jew

Petersburg, VA

#14 Dec 10, 2011
Slurpee Summit wrote:
<quoted text> Look at the national map, those in opposition are very small and don't represent much in electoral votes.
Very interesting poll to discover the truth of the wants of the American people. VERY VERY INTERESTING.


iN REALITY, IN CASE IT EVADED YOU FROM THE BEGINNING, 30 PERCENT VOTE AND THE REST REALIZE THEIR VOTE DOES NOT MEAN A THING, WHICH IS THE TRUTH BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE A BIG RIGGED EVENT, WHEREUPON THE WINNER KNOWS HE WILL WIN
wondering about wow

Petersburg, VA

#15 Dec 10, 2011
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>What is it, that American people want? Do they think the top 1% are responsible for creating most of our jobs? Do Americans think government is bad and free markets don't need their help? Tell me what you think.


slurpee summit needs to drink more slurpee because it might bring sense to the thinks that are randomly spouted out by this entity
wondering about wow

Petersburg, VA

#16 Dec 10, 2011
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>What's your idea?
the common man looks at the hands of the would be worker of the craft, lets say drywall hanging, brand new tools and no callouses on the hands with manicured nails and the yellowing of the cigarette fingers. this does not fit the duty and responsibility criteria.
then look at the professional, degrees and gpa, and, if there are callouses and workers hands on the person, another very desirable trait as that person has no fear of real work, absolutely no one can do a job with a coffee cup in one hand.
as for me, 3 university degrees, and. 5 rows of callouses on each hand. the would be employer listens to the applicant spout out a diatribe that would knock over a rhino, but, when the numbers come in, this tells all. There have been verbose folks, well versed in the use of the thesaurus, only to sit and point their finger, spout verbosity, and continue to drink coffee. What ever happened to the manager getting out to the work and helping out the underling, commanding respect from expertise the underling can attest to and then giving the subordinate a good pat on the back for a job well done. This management system now-a days is composed of one sitting behind a desk and threatening one with their job, the making of one feel small and unimportant. Wrong way, pal. The good manager will get into the trenches with the subordinate and experience the face of work, not just some overinflated ideal. When I wrote about the Nursing Homes and the workers therein, I speak from experience and have been scalded with some philosophical desk sitter spouting verbose phrases made to make me feel inadequate. callouses, on their posterior and out of shape with a bad back because the strati-lounger does not fit any more. Big words do not impress, action does. so WOW and Slurpee summit, before you speak your many syllabled pile of verbage, made to make someone look or feel inadequate, that is the result of an inadequate self. Too bad for you.
Slurpee Summit

Petersburg, VA

#17 Dec 10, 2011
wondering about wow wrote:
<quoted text>
the common man looks at the hands of the would be worker of the craft, lets say drywall hanging, brand new tools and no callouses on the hands with manicured nails and the yellowing of the cigarette fingers. this does not fit the duty and responsibility criteria.
then look at the professional, degrees and gpa, and, if there are callouses and workers hands on the person, another very desirable trait as that person has no fear of real work, absolutely no one can do a job with a coffee cup in one hand.
as for me, 3 university degrees, and. 5 rows of callouses on each hand. the would be employer listens to the applicant spout out a diatribe that would knock over a rhino, but, when the numbers come in, this tells all. There have been verbose folks, well versed in the use of the thesaurus, only to sit and point their finger, spout verbosity, and continue to drink coffee. What ever happened to the manager getting out to the work and helping out the underling, commanding respect from expertise the underling can attest to and then giving the subordinate a good pat on the back for a job well done. This management system now-a days is composed of one sitting behind a desk and threatening one with their job, the making of one feel small and unimportant. Wrong way, pal. The good manager will get into the trenches with the subordinate and experience the face of work, not just some overinflated ideal. When I wrote about the Nursing Homes and the workers therein, I speak from experience and have been scalded with some philosophical desk sitter spouting verbose phrases made to make me feel inadequate. callouses, on their posterior and out of shape with a bad back because the strati-lounger does not fit any more. Big words do not impress, action does. so WOW and Slurpee summit, before you speak your many syllabled pile of verbage, made to make someone look or feel inadequate, that is the result of an inadequate self. Too bad for you.
You've calmed down and even simplified the words for us common folk.

I don't like to spar with people whom use multiple monikers to give themselves an opportunity to answer another post. I'll play along for the moment. I wouldn't say, "rigged". Unwanted presidency? More than likely. The GOP doesn't want this election, no different from 2008. Hold on, a sec.

When Riley asked me, " Do you mind if we raise the tax on cigs to pay for repair of the water infrastructure? " I pondered for 3 seconds and said, " They could be $100 per pack and I'd still smoke 'em." I'm not fighting to live any longer than I have to. I've been sick twice in my; once from polio and the second, from the measles. I'm not running from death, not in bad shape and I still prefer rather than like anything.

Obama already knows that he wins. The media is geared towards projecting a need for people to act on behalf of their chosen one. They make it appear as if he's behind, more voters rally to ensure he has a better chance and as the underdog, he pulls it off.

The economic growth of the early 2000's wasn't sustainable but the false sense of security led to people turning away from saving and venturing into the gamble. The U.S lost a lot of ground. Blame it on Clinton for deregulating loans for underqualified applicants? Ronald Reagan, Grover Norquist, Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch implemented that concept. Look deeper, Tax Reform Act of 1986.
Slurpee Summit

Petersburg, VA

#18 Dec 10, 2011
I really don't want to get into this crap too deeply, I want you to be capable of comprehending.

The problem in America is the inability to repair the unnatural infusion of credit as the guidelines of what is deemed, " Successful ". Sustainable growth is impossible without constant tinkering. Imagine a system capable of operating flawlessly for 30 years, no way possible. Sub-prime didn't just injure the gambles, it injured the people who refinanced their homes and purchased new vehicles as well. Who in their right mind would pay for a car for 30 years? Look at your neighbors.

Healthcare is beyond repair but it can't be revamped nor repaired because the State has already borrowed too much money against it's future revenues. Residents belong to States, not a flag which identifies The Union. If the fed dissolved, States couldn't begin to develop 50 different replacement organizations to operate as independents as well as check and balance without the central banking system.

Paucity comes to mind, when a person is reading something I write and looking for concepts and ideals; they're just not going to be there. I'm fine with the system as is but I'll welcome the development of China's rinminbi as a world currency. You really don't want to know what I think; I am for America defaulting. Not because I don't like America, because war will lead to population reduction. A country this big could fight for 20 years and some semblance of a life would still be had.

When people vote, next year, they'll be casting ballots for sacrifice or to not sacrifice and the outcome will determine if America keeps it's name or get's redistributed and renamed by it's creditors. Whoever you owe owns you. The capital in America isn't real, it's all credit. Noone is paying to live in America, they're just going through the motions and those motions are giving people something to do.

See, what's not happening as usual is growth for the capital investors. America is about one thing and one thing only, taking care of the people whom supply the idea of a quality of life. Starve those people and life as we know it will suck. Until they are restored to receiving sufficient gains for their investments, people making less than $250k can't advance.

You're wanting to argue; whereas, I'd prefer to debate. You know that mediocre number crunching stuff without calloused hands? My hands are pretty smooth but my fingers are dry from turning pages and playing with old money. 3 degrees and you're an RN? BSN? and still tending to wound care? What kind of callouses are on your hands, ringing your pens to death?

Before you begin to think about thinking, do a cost analysis on one minute section of the overall thing that you're looking to alter. Thousands of people work on those legislative documents presented by each branch. We call them 'Thinktanks' and they don't debride pressure ulcers nor consult with people that do. Healing is anti-business, get a clue but I'm out of my league talking to a grunt, you'll be the laugh of my next function.
Slurpee Summit

Petersburg, VA

#19 Dec 10, 2011
Verbosity? Utterings? I'm long winded due to the lack of understanding of the audience. The fact that you see it as an uttering confirms my first premise.

I will deal with you fairly, until I can deal with you squarely. Or did that jump over your head as well? Thomas Jefferson wouldn't have created a system which led Babylonia and Assyria to part; therefore, he created the democratic-republican party. One party at inception, one party at it's end. President Obama said, " I'm not the democratic president, I'm the President of The United States of America. "

I please only one person per day, today is not your day and tomorrow isn't looking good either. Verbosity at it's finest.
Slurpee Summit

Petersburg, VA

#20 Dec 10, 2011
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>What is it, that American people want? Do they think the top 1% are responsible for creating most of our jobs? Do Americans think government is bad and free markets don't need their help? Tell me what you think.
Excuse me for overlooking your post.

You can find the answers to the second question in one of the other posts. As far as wants of Americans, they want to feel as if they're working is producing for them.

America is a business entity, sort of like a mafia, just big enough to deal with other criminal organizations.

There aren't any free markets, they just don't work. Growth has to be controlled. It has to be controlled because demand is limited everywhere else in the World except for here. This is what Americans don't understand.

In a free market they would be capable of working as many hours as they could withstand and taking home or retaining as much as they'd like. A more intelligent economist sees those excessive productions as waste, in return, they don't get produced. There's not enough capital to have stock sitting for 2-3 years, not in abundance.

Americans don't recognize the difference between want and need nor understand the difference between sustainable ( Obama's Economic Outlook ) and unsustainable ( Free Market ). Every dollar that trickles off of the wheel needs to head back up through evaporation or whatever process that gets it back up.

Take for instance, illegal drug revenue. When those dollars are sent outside of the original investors' collection plates, the government has to find ways to replace those losses. This is why law enforcement efforts for drug distribution seems to be extreme. The consequences are actually bigger than average people realize. Now, add counterfeiting of currency and goods.

The American consumer is the culprit. Nobody wants to simply say, " Hey, we're selling you the dream, can we get paid now! " The real terrorists are living here with us and they don't even know they're terrorists. I tend to make people angry with my rants because they just don't want to believe that a person whom knows would tell them anything, they trust in god.
TV MAN

United States

#21 Dec 10, 2011
TO Slurpee Summit:

The world economy is not in depression; it probably won't fall into depression, despite the manitude of the current crisis. But while depression itself has not returned, depression economics, the kinds of problems that characterized much of the world economy in the 1930's but have not been seen since, has staged a stunning comeback. How did the world become this dangerous? More important, how do we get out of the current crisis, and what can we do to prevent such crises from happening in the first place? Essentially it means that for the first time in two generations, failures on the demand side of the economy, insufficient private spending to make use of the avaiable productive capacity, have become the clear and present limitation on prosperity for a large part of the world. The obvious solution is to put in more capital. A financial rescue along similar lines is now underway in the United States and other advanced economies, although it was late in coming, thanks in part to the ideological tilt of the Republican party. My guess is that the recapitalization will eventually have to get bigger and broader, and that there will eventually have to be more assertion of government control, in effect, it will come closer to a full temporary nationalization of a significant part of the financial system. I won't try to lay out the details of a new regulatory regime, but the basic principle should be clear. Anything that has to be rescued during a financial crisis, because it plays an essential role in the financial mechanism, should be regulated when there isn't a crisis so that it doesn't take excessive risks.

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