Health Care Debate - New Hyde Park, NY

[What Losers]

(Remember, those on SS income, that Obama and crew have held back our normal Cost of Living Adjustment raises for two years. We have been increased by AARP for our medicare advantage payments(which Obama promised would go DOWN) The cap and trade tax will increase our heating costs and electricity.
Guaranteed that the $250 bribery will not cover even half of the increases Obama,Reid,and Pelosi, have put on us. Do not fall for their tricks again! Don't forget, it was the DEMOCRATS(Lyndon B Johnson) hat raped the Social Security Fund, by putting it into the General Fund to be used by Him and Congress on their own spending spree's)
 Bribery, with money they simply do not have
Crazed Democrats in Ploy to Buy Senior Votes
By John Lillpop Tuesday, October 19, 2010
There they go again!

Unable to campaign on legislative achievements, the state of the union, or the Obamanization of America, liberals have resorted to their customary electoral strategy:


Bribery, with money they simply do not have.

In this case, it is votes cast by older Americans that liberals seek to shake loose with the munificent sum of $250 per codger.

As reported at Yahoo.com , in part:

“WASHINGTON – Democrats are making a pre-election pitch to give Social Security recipients a one-time payment of $250, part of a larger effort to convince senior voters that their party, and not Republicans, will best look out for the 58 million people who get the government retirement and disability benefits.

“The $250 check is meant to make up for a second year without a cost-of-living increase due to low inflation.

“It’s clearly a last-ditch election-year Hail Mary,” said Michael Steel, a spokesman for House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio. If supplementing the incomes of seniors was really a priority, he said, Democrats would have acted on it before they adjourned for the campaign”

Of course, the great unanswered question is:

Where is the $14 billion dollars to fund this scheme?

Shall we cut defense by $14 billion? Raise taxes on the wealthy?

Here’s a thought: Illegal aliens cost America over $100 billion dollars a year. By the way, most of the invading criminals are from Mexico.

Why not send Mexican President Felipe Calderon an invoice for $14 billion to fund the Codger Coddling Act of 2010?

Or why not pay the bill by a combination of cutting off aid to Mexico and billing them directly for any shortfall?

The Democrats’ bankrupt proposal reminds me of an associate who opened a new checking account with a deposit of $100. Not the most meticulous records keeper, he quickly drove his account into the red.

Summoned by the bank to atone for the negative balance, this young man agreed and was in the process of writing a check to even the score, when the bank manager reminded him that writing a check against an already over- drawn account would not solve anything, and, in fact, would make matters worse!

So it is that the Obama-Pelosi-Reid financial mobster gang would like to buy votes by using an account (federal budget) that, because of excessive spending by Democrats, is already ensnared in deep red

[What Losers]

TV MAN wrote:

<quoted text>First, you're glad I'm here, then you call me stupid. Can you make up your mind.

First you're on the Left, then you are on the Right. Why don't you make up your mind. You are nothing more than a Topix spammer.
Get a life, you must spam about 50 topix sites a day.

[What Losers]

TV MAN wrote:

Hey "Doomers and Gloomers" get this:
Judge George Caram Steeh in detroit said the mandate to get insurance by 2014 and the financial penalty for skipping coverage are legal. He said Congress was trying to lower the overall cost of insurance by requiring participation. "Without the minium coverage provision, there would be an incentive for some individuals to wait to purchase health insurance until they needed care, knowing that insurance would be avaiable at all times," the judge said.
Looks like the Bunker boys lost on the first round.LOL.

Once the Republicans win back the majority in the House and the
Senate, it will not make any difference what some liberal judge
thinks. LOL. 20 states are objecting to the Obuma-Care bill, and
more are joining in. I doubt that we will reach the 57 STATES THAT
OBAMA SAYS WE HAVE!

Your voice heard: Judge rules against ObamaCare!
Not long ago, we urged you to contact your state governor and attorney general to urge them to challenge the constitutionality of ObamaCare in court.
Your voice was heard! Over 20 state attorneys general filed a lawsuit charging that ObamaCare is flatly unconstitutional.
The great news is that they were told by a federal judge late last week the lawsuit you helped inspire can go forward.
Judge Roger Vinson said that the states "have most definitely stated a plausible claim" that the federal government has absolutely no authority under the Constitution to require people to purchase health insurance.
He also indicated that the sovereign right of states under the 10th Amendment have likely been violated by the federal government's order under ObamaCare to increase their Medicare budgets, which will, in the words of the lawsuit, "run [state] budgets off a cliff."
Even better, the judge said that President Obama's attorneys were making "Alice in Wonderland" arguments as they tried to defend the indefensible.
This lawsuit is likely on its way to the Supreme Court, and you will have helped to get it there. Thanks for weighing in on a critical issue at a critical time!
Don't forget that we have an election of historic importance coming up in just two weeks. AFA Action has prepared a scorecard that includes the vote of your representative and your two senators on ObamaCare. You can view the scorecard for your state here.
Please forward this Scorecard to your family members and friends. You can readily print or share the Scorecard on Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, Google, Messenger, etc.
Sincerely,
Donald E. Wildmon

[TV MAN]

What Losers wrote:

<quoted text>
First you're on the Left, then you are on the Right. Why don't you make up your mind. You are nothing more than a Topix spammer.
Get a life, you must spam about 50 topix sites a day.

I'm on the left when their ideas seem good, and I'm on the right when their ideas seem good. I'm against the left when they have bad ideas, and I'm against the right when they have bad ideas. Don't put me in your cubicle. No party is perfect without balance from the other. Just like you aren't always right, and neither am I. I have my opinions, and you're welcome to disagree. However, I'm very happy with my life and have no regrets.

[Native American]

Peter King might consider investigating prominent U.S. citizens who were involved with groups designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations by the State Department in his quest to get to the bottom of the “radicalization” of America’s Muslim community. It turns out the New York Representative wouldn’t need to look very far to find Americans giving “material support” to terrorist organizations.

Just before Christmas, The Washington Post reported that former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, former secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge and two other former Bush officials took a trip to France, home of the “cheese eating surrender monkey’s,” to demand President Obama take the MEK (Mujaheddin) off the FTO list. The MEK supported Saddam Hussein in Iraq, killed U.S. soldier’s in the 70’s in Iran and has been known to “routinely aim its attacks at government buildings in crowded cities.” Rudy, Tom and friends want the MEK cleared off the list because they wish to depose the current Iranian regime. In other words, the MEK engaged in terroristic activities – some in support of America’s enemies and some which killed American soldiers – but that’s water under the bridge because the hard right needs someone to do the dirty work.

As Glenn Greenwald at Salon points out, even the Bush administration declared the group to “maintain the capacity and will to commit terrorist acts.” Now officials from that administration are doing exactly what they criticized non-conservatives from doing. Worse yet, this is exactly the type of behavior which has endangered U.S. citizens and servicemen and women in the past, from our support of the Afghan Mujahideen to Manuel Noriega and beyond.

[That's Right !]

Not even government officials who voted for it fully understand it.Who ever heard of a health care bill that has a student loan bill buried in it !!The notion that the government will force people to buy health care or fine them is hardly representative of a democracy. It's already falling apart as big companies have figured out it's cheaper to drop health care and pay the fine rather than adhere to this absurd policy. The Government is already making exceptions before it's even started !What was the big accomplishment? The joker in the WH couldn't even get his own party to approve it until they took several Democrats into the back room and bought them off or threatened them.

[TV MAN]

Don't repeal it, fix it.

[Bruser]

TV MAN wrote:

Don't repeal it, fix it.

What reply from "TV Mouth?":
Monday, April 25, 2011
IMF bombshell: Age of America Nears End!

BOSTON (MarketWatch)— The International Monetary Fund has just dropped a bombshell, and nobody noticed.

For the first time, the international organization has set a date for the moment when the “Age of America” will end and the U.S. economy will be overtaken by that of China.
IMF sees China topping U.S. in 2016
According to the latest IMF official forecasts, China's economy will surpass that of America in real terms in 2016 — just five years from now. Brett Arends looks at the implications for the U.S. dollar and the Treasury market. And it’s a lot closer than you may think.

According to the latest IMF official forecasts, China’s economy will surpass that of America in real terms in 2016 — just five years from now.Put that in your calendar.

It provides a painful context for the budget wrangling taking place in Washington, D.C., right now. It raises enormous questions about what the international security system is going to look like in just a handful of years. And it casts a deepening cloud over both the U.S. dollar and the giant Treasury market, which have been propped up for decades by their privileged status as the liabilities of the world’s hegemonic power.
According to the IMF forecast, whomever is elected U.S. president next year — Obama? Mitt Romney? Donald Trump?— will be the last to preside over the world’s largest economy.

Most people aren’t prepared for this. They aren’t even aware it’s that close. Listen to experts of various stripes, and they will tell you this moment is decades away. The most bearish will put the figure in the mid-2020s.

China’s economy will be the world’s largest within five years or so.
But they’re miscounting. They’re only comparing the gross domestic products of the two countries using current exchange rates.

That’s a largely meaningless comparison in real terms. Exchange rates change quickly. And China’s exchange rates are phony. China artificially undervalues its currency, the renminbi, through massive intervention in the markets.

The comparison that really matters
The IMF in its analysis looks beyond exchange rates to the true, real terms picture of the economies using “purchasing power parities.” That compares what people earn and spend in real terms in their domestic economies.

Under PPP, the Chinese economy will expand from $11.2 trillion this year to $19 trillion in 2016. Meanwhile the size of the U.S. economy will rise from $15.2 trillion to $18.8 trillion. That would take America’s share of the world output down to 17.7%, the lowest in modern times. China’s would reach 18%, and rising.
Just 10 years ago, the U.S. economy was three times the size of China’s.

[Charlie]

Bruser wrote:

<quoted text>
What reply from "TV Mouth?":
Monday, April 25, 2011
IMF bombshell: Age of America Nears End!
BOSTON (MarketWatch)— The International Monetary Fund has just dropped a bombshell, and nobody noticed.
For the first time, the international organization has set a date for the moment when the “Age of America” will end and the U.S. economy will be overtaken by that of China.
IMF sees China topping U.S. in 2016
According to the latest IMF official forecasts, China's economy will surpass that of America in real terms in 2016 — just five years from now. Brett Arends looks at the implications for the U.S. dollar and the Treasury market. And it’s a lot closer than you may think.
According to the latest IMF official forecasts, China’s economy will surpass that of America in real terms in 2016 — just five years from now.Put that in your calendar.
It provides a painful context for the budget wrangling taking place in Washington, D.C., right now. It raises enormous questions about what the international security system is going to look like in just a handful of years. And it casts a deepening cloud over both the U.S. dollar and the giant Treasury market, which have been propped up for decades by their privileged status as the liabilities of the world’s hegemonic power.
According to the IMF forecast, whomever is elected U.S. president next year — Obama? Mitt Romney? Donald Trump?— will be the last to preside over the world’s largest economy.
Most people aren’t prepared for this. They aren’t even aware it’s that close. Listen to experts of various stripes, and they will tell you this moment is decades away. The most bearish will put the figure in the mid-2020s.
China’s economy will be the world’s largest within five years or so.
But they’re miscounting. They’re only comparing the gross domestic products of the two countries using current exchange rates.
That’s a largely meaningless comparison in real terms. Exchange rates change quickly. And China’s exchange rates are phony. China artificially undervalues its currency, the renminbi, through massive intervention in the markets.
The comparison that really matters
The IMF in its analysis looks beyond exchange rates to the true, real terms picture of the economies using “purchasing power parities.” That compares what people earn and spend in real terms in their domestic economies.
Under PPP, the Chinese economy will expand from $11.2 trillion this year to $19 trillion in 2016. Meanwhile the size of the U.S. economy will rise from $15.2 trillion to $18.8 trillion. That would take America’s share of the world output down to 17.7%, the lowest in modern times. China’s would reach 18%, and rising.
Just 10 years ago, the U.S. economy was three times the size of China’s.

Mangi la merda

[TV MAN]

Bruser wrote:

<quoted text>
What reply from "TV Mouth?":
Monday, April 25, 2011
IMF bombshell: Age of America Nears End!
BOSTON (MarketWatch)— The International Monetary Fund has just dropped a bombshell, and nobody noticed.
For the first time, the international organization has set a date for the moment when the “Age of America” will end and the U.S. economy will be overtaken by that of China.
IMF sees China topping U.S. in 2016
According to the latest IMF official forecasts, China's economy will surpass that of America in real terms in 2016 — just five years from now. Brett Arends looks at the implications for the U.S. dollar and the Treasury market. And it’s a lot closer than you may think.
According to the latest IMF official forecasts, China’s economy will surpass that of America in real terms in 2016 — just five years from now.Put that in your calendar.
It provides a painful context for the budget wrangling taking place in Washington, D.C., right now. It raises enormous questions about what the international security system is going to look like in just a handful of years. And it casts a deepening cloud over both the U.S. dollar and the giant Treasury market, which have been propped up for decades by their privileged status as the liabilities of the world’s hegemonic power.
According to the IMF forecast, whomever is elected U.S. president next year — Obama? Mitt Romney? Donald Trump?— will be the last to preside over the world’s largest economy.
Most people aren’t prepared for this. They aren’t even aware it’s that close. Listen to experts of various stripes, and they will tell you this moment is decades away. The most bearish will put the figure in the mid-2020s.
China’s economy will be the world’s largest within five years or so.
But they’re miscounting. They’re only comparing the gross domestic products of the two countries using current exchange rates.
That’s a largely meaningless comparison in real terms. Exchange rates change quickly. And China’s exchange rates are phony. China artificially undervalues its currency, the renminbi, through massive intervention in the markets.
The comparison that really matters
The IMF in its analysis looks beyond exchange rates to the true, real terms picture of the economies using “purchasing power parities.” That compares what people earn and spend in real terms in their domestic economies.
Under PPP, the Chinese economy will expand from $11.2 trillion this year to $19 trillion in 2016. Meanwhile the size of the U.S. economy will rise from $15.2 trillion to $18.8 trillion. That would take America’s share of the world output down to 17.7%, the lowest in modern times. China’s would reach 18%, and rising.
Just 10 years ago, the U.S. economy was three times the size of China’s.

What are you trying to say? America is coming to an end. Wrong Doomer, America is only changing. For those that comprehend trends, they'll become winners. Those that Doom and hide in Bunkers will lose. It's time for you to get a plan, and stop living life by accident.