Health Care Debate - Massapequa Park, NY
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Since: Jul 10
HISTORIC RECORD OF GUN CONTROL
The Human Cost of "Gun Control" Seizures
"Gun Control" Laws Passed
Features of Over-all Gun Control Scheme
1 - 1.5 million
Art. 166, Pen. Code, 1866
& 1911 Proclamation, 1915
• Permits required •Government list of owners
•Ban on possession
1929 - 1945
* Resolutions, 1918
* Decree, July 12, 1920
* Art. 59 & 182,
* Penal code, 1926
•Licensing of owners
•Ban on possession
& Occupied Europe
1933 - 1945
* Law on Firearms & Ammun., 1928
* Weapon Law, March 18, 1938
* Regulations against Jews, 1938 •Registration & Licensing
•Stricter handgun laws
•Ban on possession
army conscripts; others
* Art. 205, Crim. Code, 1914
* Art. 186-87, Crim. Code, 1935 •Government permit system
•Ban on private ownership
* 1951- 1952
* 1957- 1960
Enemies of the state
Act of Feb. 20, 1951
Act of Oct. 22, 1957 * Prison or death to "counter-revolutionary criminals" and anyone resisting any government program
* Death penalty for those who supply guns to such "criminals"
Mayans & other Indians; plus
100,000 - 200,000
* Decree 36, Nov 25 Act of 1932
* Decree 386, 1947
* Decree 283, 1964 •Register guns & owners •Licensing with high fees
•Prohibit carrying guns
•Bans on guns, sharp tools •Confiscation powers
* Firearms Ordinance, 1955
* Firearms Act, 1970 •Register all guns & owners •Licenses for transactions
•Warrentless searches •Confiscation powers
2 million (C/E Note: 66% population reduction)
* Art. 322-328, Penal Code
* Royal Ordinance 55, 1938
•Licenses for guns, owners, ammunition & transactions
•Photo ID with fingerprints •License inspected quarterly
Decree-Law No. 12, 1979
•Register guns, owners, ammunition
•Owners must justify need
•Concealable guns illegal •Confiscating powers
In just these nine instances, between 74,200,000 - 89,800,000 people died once they had given over their guns to their government! This means that an average of 8,244,000 to 9,978,000 people died per country in which they allowed their government to take control of their individual arms.
The historical truth: evil governments did wipe out 170,000,000 innocent non-military lives in the 20th Century alone. Almost 1/5 of a BILLION people have died last century when guns were rounded up."
["Death By Gun Control", by Aaron Zelman and Richard W. Stevens]
Those who do not learn by their past mistakes,
will repeat their mistakes over and over again.
How soon we we forget Oshwitz, Russian Goologs,
Hitler, Stalin, & Mao.
"Never again?" It is about to happen again!!!
Since: Jul 10
This from one of the top Democrats who was a key architecht of the Healthcare reform act!!!!
Baucus warns of 'huge train wreck' enacting ObamaCare provisions
By Sam Baker - 04/17/13 12:33 PM ET
Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) said Wednesday he fears a "train wreck" as the Obama administration implements its signature healthcare law.
Baucus, the chairman of the chamber's powerful Finance Committee and a key architect of the healthcare reform law, said he fears people do not understand how the law will work.
"I just see a huge train wreck coming down," he told Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius at a Wednesday hearing. "You and I have discussed this many times, and I don't see any results yet."
Baucus pressed Sebelius for details about how the Health Department will explain the law and raise awareness of its provisions, which are supposed to take effect in just a matter of months.
"I'm very concerned that not enough is being done so far — very concerned," Baucus said.
He pressed Sebelius to explain how her department will overcome entrenched misunderstandings about what the healthcare law does.
"Small businesses have no idea what to do, what to expect," Baucus said.
Citing anecdotal evidence from small businesses in his home state, Baucus asked Sebelius for specifics about how it is measuring public understanding of the law.
"You need data. Do you have any data? You've never given me data. You only give me concepts, frankly," he said.
Sebelius said in response that the administration is not independently monitoring public awareness of specific provisions but will be embarking on an education campaign beginning this summer.
Baucus is facing a competitive reelection fight next year, and Republicans are sure to attack him over his role as the primary author of the healthcare law.
A messy rollout of the law's major provisions, months before Baucus faces voters, could feed into the GOP's criticism.
Wednesday's hearing wasn't the first time Democrats, including Baucus, have raised concerns about the implementation. But while other lawmakers have toned down their public comments as they've gotten answers from the Health secretary, Baucus said Sebelius has not addressed his fears.
"I'm going to keep on this until I feel a lot better about it," Baucus told Sebelius.
it will destroy our economy
This story is being updated. Glenn said on radio that the suspect’s prior event referenced in the cover letter was also tagged 212 3 B, but corrected when he returned from break that they are still investigating the prior event #1648067 .
Glenn spent the night tweeting that he had big news on the Saudi national story, and he delivered it this morning when he read from a copy of the event file on Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi and delivered new information on this story.
“Now, you can tear me apart all you want. Bring it on. I’ve had my fill of it. I can take it. Bring it on. But it doesn’t make the facts go away. Any reporter, any journalist that might be listening, do not take my word for it. Take the facts that I just gave and ask the Department of Homeland Security security now:‘Excuse me, explain away this.’ And when they come to you with more lies, you come back here. Because we have more,” Glenn said.
Here is the new information that Glenn revealed on radio today:
1) The event file created on Abdul Rahman Ali Al-Harbi indicated on page two that he is armed and dangerous.
2) He was admitted into this country under a special advisory option which is usually reserved for visiting politicians, VIPs, or journalists.
3) One of the first excuses given by law enforcement when confronted about his pending deportation was expired VISA. According to the event file his visa is good until 11-Nov-2016.
4) Event file indicates he entered the United States on 08/28/12 in Boston, MA but says subject is a student at the University of Findlay in Findlay, Ohio. He never showed up.
5) When an event file is created in the system the author(s) are notified via email when it is accessed and given the email address of the person accessing. As a result we know the following: After the file was created it first amended to remove the terrorism and deportation reference and then someone went back in and tried to destroy both the original and amended versions. They didn’t know there were copies.
6) The original event file was reviewed and approved by two high level agents – Chief Watch Commander Maimbourg and Watch Commander Mayfield.
Here is the cover page of the event file:
ALHARBI, ABDULRAHMAN ALI E
COC SAUDI ARABIA
Since: Jul 10
Forward this to Governor Cuomo:
This article basically confirms what we all knew.
More Guns Equal Less Violent Crime
by Professor John R. Lott, Jr.
University of Chicago Law School
1111 East 60th Street, Chicago IL 60637
For the Democratic Party the solution to violent crime is clear - more regulation of guns. What is their net effect? Are more lives lost or saved? Do they deter crime or encourage it? I recently completed a study of one type of gun control law-laws on concealed handguns, also known as "shall-issue" laws. Thirty-one states give their citizens the right to carry concealed handguns if they do not have a criminal record or a history of significant mental illness.The FBI's crime statistics for all 3,054 American counties from 1977 to 1992. Our findings are dramatic. Our most conservative estimates show that by adopting shall-issue laws, states reduced murders by 8.5%, rapes by 5%, aggravated assaults by 7% and robbery by 3%. If those states that did not permit concealed handguns in 1992 had permitted them back then, citizens might have been spared approximately 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes, 60,000 aggravated assaults and 12,000 robberies.
The benefit of concealed handguns are not limited to just those who carry them or use them in self-defense. The very fact that these weapons are concealed keeps criminals uncertain as to whether a potential victim will be able to defend himself with lethal force. The possibility that anyone might be carrying a gun makes attacking everyone less attractive; unarmed citizens in effect "free-ride" on their pistol packing fellows.
Our study also provided some surprising information. While support for strict gun-control laws usually has been strongest in large cities, where crime rates are highest, that's precisely where right-to-carry laws have produced the largest drops in violent crimes. For example, in counties with populations of more than 200,000 people, concealed handgun laws produced an average drop in murder rates of more than 13%. The half of the counties with the highest rape rates saw that crime drop by more than 7%.
Concealed handguns also appear to help women more than men. Murder rates decline when either sex carries more guns, but the effect is especially pronounced when women are considered separately. An additional woman carrying a concealed handgun reduces the murder rate for women by about three to four times more than an additional armed man reduces the murder rate for men. Allowing a woman to defend herself with a concealed handgun makes a larger difference in her ability to defend herself. Guns are the great equalizer between the weak and the vicious. Our study is the first to provide direct empirical evidence of the Brady Law's effect on crime rates and we found just the opposite result: The law's implementation is associated with more aggravated assaults and rapes. Mrs. Brady's exaggerated estimates of the number of felons denied access to guns are a poor measure of the law's impact on crime rates.
We also collected data on whether owners of concealed handguns are more likely to use them in committing violent crimes. The rarity of these incidents is reflected in Florida's statistics: More than 300,000 concealed- handgun licenses were issued between October 1, 1987 and December 31, 1945, but only five violent crimes involving permitted pistols were committed in this period. And none of these resulted in fatalities. That's of 1% misuse rate for permitted pistols in an eight year period or LESS than 1/1000 of 1% misuse rate per year.
And what about accidental deaths? The number of accidental handgun deaths each year is fewer than 200. Our estimates imply that if the states without "shall issue" laws were to adopt them, the increase in accidental handgun deaths would be at most nine more deaths per year. This is small indeed when compared to the at least 1,570 murders that would be avoided.
Bruser the Brown Shirt your time has passed.
Since: Jul 10
Maybe if you stop smokin pot your brain will clear. The brown shirts
(NAZI) group first action was to confiscate guns. I am pro-gun ownership fool.
Since: Jul 10
an international perspective
per 100 residents6
per 100,000 residents7
A recent study published in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy concluded that there is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally (more guns = less crime).
Nations with strict gun control laws have substantially higher murder rates than those who do not in general. In fact, the 9 European nations with the lowest gun ownership rate have a combined murder rate 3x that of the 9 European nations with the highest gun ownership rate!
“Most violent country in EU”
POSSESSION OF HANDGUNS
2,034 violent crimes
per 100,000 people in UK**9
466 violent crimes
per 100,000 people in USA
In the decade following the Labor party's election and banning of handguns in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77% to 1.2 million in '07- or more than 2 attacks every minute!9
Kitchen knives are being used in as many as half of all stabbings in the United Kingdom and has prompted a group of doctors to call for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives.
An analysis of the FBI crime statistics found that states that adopted
concealed carry laws REDUCED:
gun free zone
With just one exception, every public mass shooting in the USA since 1950 has taken place where citizens are banned from carrying guns. Despite strict gun regulations, Europe has had 3 of the worst 6 school shootings.
total police officers
avg. deaths of a shooting
rampage stopped by police
criminals killed each year
gun owning citizens
avg. deaths of a shooting
rampage stopped by a citizen
criminals killed each year
In 1982, Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89% in Kennesaw, compared to just 10.4% drop in Georgia as a whole.
Today, the violent crime rate in Kennesaw is still 85% lower than Georgia's or the national average.
in burglaries after
MANDATORY gun law
Oh Smokin Joe, sorry for bringing up FBI facts, I know how you Liberals hate Facts. Just like Obama and Hillary hate to have the facts about Benghazi
brought up. Too bad the Media is so Liberal that they HATE TO PRINT THE FACTS.
House Republicans Have Spent 15 Percent of Their Time Trying to Repeal Obamacare ( thecontributor.com )
55 million dollars spent in taxpayer money to do this.
See?! We told you passing ObamaCare would be expensive!
Since: Jul 10
From the green gas smell, thats not Yawning, thats farting:
Since: Jul 10
Hello Liberals, ready to learn to speak Russian???
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Obama Requests 15,000 Russian Troops For “Upcoming” Disaster
Posted by EU Times on Jun 27th, 2013 // 197 Comments
Click on this link and read it for yourselves, and choke it you Liberal/Democraps, wake up and realize what you have created, and the upcoming enslavement of your children and grandchildren.
We have our own resources and American troops that are the finest soldiers in the world. I guess Obama doesn't trust them right?
Hey liberal Seniors.
I just got notified by AARP(the left arm of Obama)
that they are increasing the Medicare supplement
monthly payments(so much for Obama's lies that the healthcare would decrease). They have increased the payments since 1998(when I retired at 65)to the recent increase which brings the payments for Medicare supplement to $242.50 X 2 = to $485.00 per
month and Annual payment of $5820 for a couple with the adjusted income of $5854. Way to go Obama, you are really taking care of the middle class......NOT.
How many of you Seniors voted for Obama????? Are you hurting yet??? Wait until the full Obama-care kicks in, due to start in 2014 . Still voting for your Democratic Party? Don't complain then!
Oh you young people wait until you see your increased cost......remember you voted for this also, and to make matters worse, Harry Reidiculous
wants to push through the Illegal Immigrant laws.
What effect will that have on the Obama-care????
Want to take a guess? Does anyone know how high the retirement age is going up to? What happens if there is no Medicare coverage for you as the Bankrupt Obama government can not afford to cover you. More good news, Obama is pushing for the U.N.
guns treaty that will supersede our constitution and dictate that Americans can not own guns.
Oh what a great President. Fanning the flames of
racial hate, bankrupting our country, looking to do away with our constituion. And those are the things that we know about, imagine what we don't know about(thanks to the Socialistic media).
Have a good day. GOD BLESS AMERICA,GOD PROTECT US.
'Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the White House
Not a creature was working, not even his spouse;
No stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
because Michelle and the kids were in Hawaii spending 7 million there;
The Obama voters were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of free cell phones danced in their heads;
And mamma with her free healthcare, and unemployment benefits with no cap,
Had just settled down for a free winter's nap,
When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the mail box I flew like a flash,
Tore open the mail and got my free cash.
The welfare check hadn't got wet in the snow
Obama was still passing out free dough,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a sign I must not work, at all of next year,
With a Socialist driver, so conniving and quick,
I knew in a moment he was their Saint Nick.
More taxes for the working and spending pretty much the same,
and he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;
"Now, Daschle! Now, Boxer! Now, Franken and Reid!
On, Pelosi! On Feinstein! On, Baucus and Biden!
To the top of the debt ceiling! No spending fire wall!
Now tax away! Tax away! Tax away all!"
I guess you are looking into your own mouth! Is that the best you can do? Like all Liberal
Democraps, when there is nothing intelligent to say, attack......LOL
I wonder if "That's all" (other than name calling) can explain this, no other Liberals (liberal = no intelligent mind of their own) can!
Sun of god...
Since: Jul 10
Terrorists living right here in New York , the Liberal capital of the USA, and Mario Cuomo is doing nothing to stop this, and neither is the Police department. Where is all of the Liberal NOW woman and their supposed protection of Woman all around the world, and this is happening right in their own back yard, and not a peep from them???
Bruser is the Terrorist! Neocons are not welcome in Massapequa.
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