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#1490 Oct 23, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Are you kidding, cherry picking is what it's all about. would you like a few more? try these on for size.
CASE NEW HOLLAND INC COMPANY GTD CPN 7.750% DUE09/01/13 DTD 03/01/10 FC 09/01/10
CHESAPEAKE ENERGY CORP SENIOR NOTES CALLABLE CPN 7.250% DUE12/15/18 DTD 05/27/08 FC 12/15/08
COOPER TIRE & RUBBER NOTES NON CALLABLE CPN 8.000% DUE12/15/19 DTD 12/13/99 FC 06/15/00
EQUINIX INC SENIOR NOTES CALLABLE CPN 8.125% DUE03/01/18 DTD 03/03/10 FC 09/01/10 CALL 03/01/14 @ 104.063 CALL2 03/01/15 @ 102.031
ICAHN ENTERPRISES/FIN COMPANY GTD CALLABLE CPN 7.750% DUE01/15/16 DTD 07/15/10 FC 01/15/11 CALL 01/15/13 @ 103.875 CALL2 01/15/14 @ 101.938
Should I keep going.
This is what I do, it's called investing, however you got to have money. Get ya some.
You realize we're talking about Corporate Bonds overall, not just a few bonds...thus, cherry picking is not "what it's all about".

Furthermore, where did you receive these numbers from? Can you provide a link or source please.

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#1491 Oct 23, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Using the proper there,their, or they're, doesn't make you money. I don't boggle the mind with b.s. that doesn't pay good. Where did you come up with a 2% increase? Do you consider two months ample investment time, give me a break. I've been laddering purchases for my daughter for the last three years. You don't purchase everything in one lump sum, or all at one time. My daughter has been acquiring stock and bonds over the last three years and her maturity dates or laddered in case of interest rate increases. 1). The bond market is through the roof. Until the values start dropping interest rates aren't going any where. If they go up, bond values will move down, 2). and if you've laddered your investments you'll be able to take advantage of higher rates. It's called working while sitting down not standing up. Ask Romney he does it every day. Like I said he's not some little businessman or business owner. He transfers their wealth to himself. Smart guy. Get it yet, Big Shot.
1). Proof/Source? I've provided information from experts indicating that the "bond market" is not "through the roof" and that interest rates are not where they should be. All you have provided so far is your "say so" and random bond numbers without a source for the information.

I think I'll stick with the experts opinions on the matter of interests and bonds. Furthermore, proper grammar does in fact matter in the professional world.

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#1492 Oct 23, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
To What Sense:
You're another example of conservatives who redefine words to fit one's agenda at any cost.
Before I go any further let's define a lie.
To present false information with the intention of deceiving.
"Mitt Romney argued over when the president had declared the Libya attacks an "act of terror."
Romney merely expected the media and the American people to not pay close attention. He forgot words mean things. This has become a Romney lesson on politics. Romney is schooled on being a boss, not an attorney. Lawyers comprehend words and understand they mean things. Just suck it up, and realize Romney under estimated his opponent.
What Obama actually said, if you don't believe me check the transcript for yourself. Obama said, 1). I quote "I told the American people and the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened, that this was an act of terror." Now what
does that actually mean? Obama is saying it would be reckless to act upon any country with a tip of the hat. Let's step back and find the root cause so that we can bring the proper people to justice for this terrorist act. Romney is only interested in taking the ball and running with it. If he would have been more patient he may have seen he was running to the wrong end of the field. Opp's.
1). He never said that.

"Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks."

- He used the term "acts of terror" immediately after this quote. Clearly he is referring to the September 11 attacks and not the attack in Libya.

Now let's take a look at his opening statement:

"Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others."

followed by:

"But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. "

- Clearly he is implying it was in reaction to the Youtube film.

Let's also take note here:

"And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people."

- He refers to them as "killers" and not terrorists, thus, implying that it was not a terrorist attack, but a reaction to the aforementioned film.

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#1493 Oct 23, 2012
what sense wrote:
Candy Crowley validates Obama?s lie
10:02 AM
From the Desk of:
David Martin, Executive Vice President
Media Research Center
Hubert,
During last week’s town hall debate, the American people who were watching saw one of the most stunning and disgraceful single examples of moderator malpractice in the history of presidential debates. CNN’s Candy Crowley allowed Barack Obama to lie to the American people about his administration’s Libya cover-up.
Even worse, she then validated this lie of extraordinary magnitude by certifying it as honest and by attacking Mitt Romney when he pressed the president on his administration's cover-up.
Crowley robbed tens of millions of Americans of the truth on national primetime television. Real journalists – who were fed the Obama Administration's Libya lies for two weeks – should be furious.
Crowley was solely responsible for choosing the questions, meaning that it was her decision that there be only one question about Libya and nothing about anything else dealing with foreign policy.
Her question selection process was typically left wing. Going into the debate, the Media Research Center has documented that since 1992, moderators have called upon voters with a liberal agenda twice as often as those with a conservative agenda.
The citizens selected by Crowley matched that tilt exactly, with six pro-Obama/liberal-themed questions, vs. three pro-Romney questions, and two others scored as neutral.
Crowley was an utter disaster, and was, by far, the worst moderator of the 2012 election.
The Libya cover-up continues, and the national news media need to start asking some tough questions – including questions about one of their own.
If Obama was correct that on Day 1 he said it was a terrorist attack, why did his UN ambassador say on five different national interviews that it was a YouTube video that was responsible, and who put her up to it? If he saw this as a terrorist attack from the very beginning, why did the president himself blame it on a video six times during a UN speech?
Why has he made the statement so many times, as has Hillary Clinton, as has Jay Carney, as have others?
And why did Candy Crowley validate this lie?
She WAS the worst, until we saw the reprehensible display put forth by the Bob Scheiffer last night. Crowley was also in error when she stated Obama called the attack in Libya a "terrorist attack". As noted in my other post, he did not indicate that the attack in Libya was a "terrorist" attack, rather, it was a response to the Youtube video criticizing Islam.
TV MAN

United States

#1494 Oct 23, 2012
Helion Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
1). Proof/Source? I've provided information from experts indicating that the "bond market" is not "through the roof" and that interest rates are not where they should be. All you have provided so far is your "say so" and random bond numbers without a source for the information.
I think I'll stick with the experts opinions on the matter of interests and bonds. Furthermore, proper grammar does in fact matter in the professional world.
You're providing more proof of one's lack of knowledge. If you traded bonds you would've realized these read outs can't be processed without an owners pass code. In other words, I can't fake it. You're most likely talking to experts paid with fee's or premiums. It's not in their best interest to guide you in this direction. Many analysts call these bonds junk. They lead you to believe its much to risky. However it's all a matter of interpretation. I love it when the money mangers and risk mangers call companies high risk. This allows me to cherry pick what I contend to be fair return based on risk vs reward. I've never considered myself an English teacher, and I don't make excuses for my written language, however it doesn't stop me from creative insight, or experiences on the ground floor. I'm not trying to compete with your ideas, merely displaying results that are real.
TV MAN

United States

#1495 Oct 23, 2012
Helion Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
1). He never said that.
"Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks."
- He used the term "acts of terror" immediately after this quote. Clearly he is referring to the September 11 attacks and not the attack in Libya.
Now let's take a look at his opening statement:
"Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others."
followed by:
"But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. "
- Clearly he is implying it was in reaction to the Youtube film.
Let's also take note here:
"And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people."
- He refers to them as "killers" and not terrorists, thus, implying that it was not a terrorist attack, but a reaction to the aforementioned film.
Are you saying the trans script is wrong, or it doesn't exist? Are you saying my interpretation shouldn't be considered? Besides, even if you're correct it doesn't show planned intentions to destroy Americans. Stop playing gotcha, it's not important to the issues in front of us. Sh-t happens. If you have an accident by running a red light, should we contend you did it on purpose? Should we destroy your right to drive. Don't accidents happen? As I said Shi-t happens yet you can't admit it.
TV MAN

United States

#1496 Oct 23, 2012
Helion Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
She WAS the worst, until we saw the reprehensible display put forth by the Bob Scheiffer last night. Crowley was also in error when she stated Obama called the attack in Libya a "terrorist attack". As noted in my other post, he did not indicate that the attack in Libya was a "terrorist" attack, rather, it was a response to the Youtube video criticizing Islam.
Again your interpretation. Prove it, or allow the investigation to proceed without your speculation and judgement. Don't hang a President until all the evidence is out. There's a good chance this could've happened to anyone. Even you, MR. perfect. It's conservatives like you that sour my taste for Republicans. Republicans were different in the past. I know, because I was one. However people like yourself that panic, and look for cracks to run their agenda, sour my taste.
TV MAN

United States

#1497 Oct 23, 2012
Helion Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
You realize we're talking about Corporate Bonds overall, not just a few bonds...thus, cherry picking is not "what it's all about".
Furthermore, where did you receive these numbers from? Can you provide a link or source please.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Of course these are corp. bonds fool. Of course bond are not all the same. However, bond values are at a all time high. Why? Bond value is controlled by risk, and interest rates. Interest rates are the lowest they've been in my life. Risk is high based on economic issues. Bonds respond to both. High risk and low interest can equal increased value. Baby boomers are looking for income, and the stock market hasn't delivered in over ten years. Income is what you live on, not capital gains. More and more baby boomers are looking for income, not capital gains. Bingo the bond market. However not triple AAA bonds, junk corporate bonds. If you want to question my style you won't find many experts that will agree. I pay a 6 dollar fee per bond, a 6 dollar fee for the sale of a bond. Unless you can deal in the volume of 250,000 or more you can't receive the same deal. You see I understand Romney very clearly, it's you and your kind that can't comprehend my side of the fence. If your goal is to argue with my results, and how this system works, Romney will continue to think of you as leverage. Romney would think of me as a trader. I'm giving away information only used in the Romney world.
TV MAN

United States

#1498 Oct 23, 2012
Have your so called experts look at these:
This is Romney world, welcome to my club.
We love employees that bring in the milk.

WINDSTREAM CORP SENIOR NOTES CALLABLE CPN 7.000% DUE03/15/19 DTD 02/27/07 FC 09/15/07 CALL 03/15/13 @ 102.333 CALL2 03/15/14 @ 101.167

VULCAN MATERIALS SENIOR NOTES CALLABLE CPN 7.000% DUE06/15/18 DTD 06/20/08 FC 12/15/08

US STEEL CORP SENIOR UNSECURED NOTES CPN 7.000% DUE02/01/18 DTD 12/10/07 FC 08/01/08

UNION CARBIDE CORP DEBENTURES CPN 7.500% DUE06/01/25 DTD 06/01/95 FC 12/01/95

TREEHOUSE FOODS INC SR UNSECURED CPN 7.750% DUE03/01/18 DTD 03/02/10 FC 09/01/10 CALL 03/01/14 @ 103.875 CALL2 03/01/15 @ 101.938

TEREX CORP SR SUB NOTES CALLABLE CPN 8.000% DUE11/15/17 DTD 11/13/07 FC 05/15/08 CALL 11/15/13 @ 102.667

TEEKAY CORP SENIOR NOTES CPN 8.500% DUE01/15/20 DTD 01/27/10 FC 07/15/10

SUBURBAN PROPANE PARTNRS SENIOR NOTES CALLABLE CPN 7.375% DUE03/15/20 DTD 03/23/10 FC 09/15/10 CALL 03/15/15 @ 103.688 CALL2 03/15/16 @ 102.458

SMITHFIELD FOODS INC SENIOR NOTES CPN 7.750% DUE07/01/17 DTD 06/22/07 FC 01/01/08

SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY HDD H SENIOR NOTES CPN 6.800% DUE10/01/16 DTD 09/20/06 FC 04/01/07

ROYAL CARIBBEAN CRUISES SENIOR NOTES CPN 7.250% DUE06/15/16 DTD 06/12/06 FC 12/15/06

RANGE RESOURCES CORP SENIOR NOTES CALLABLE CPN 7.250% DUE05/01/18 DTD 05/06/08 FC 11/01/08 CALL 05/01/13 @ 103.625 CALL2 05/01/14 @ 102.417
TV MAN

United States

#1499 Oct 23, 2012
OK, I'm TV MAN, I've got a deal for you. Don't worry, I'm defined as a free market. I believe in Capitalism. Send me your money, and I'll make sure it's invested properly. Don't worry any longer about that mean old government. You got TV MAN, the free market. Welcome to reality. It's great to be on your own.

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#1500 Oct 23, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>You're providing more proof of one's lack of knowledge. If you traded bonds you would've realized these read outs can't be processed without an owners pass code. In other words, I can't fake it. You're most likely talking to experts paid with fee's or premiums. It's not in their best interest to guide you in this direction. Many analysts call these bonds junk. They lead you to believe its much to risky. However it's all a matter of interpretation. I love it when the money mangers and risk mangers call companies high risk. This allows me to cherry pick what I contend to be fair return based on risk vs reward.2). I've never considered myself an English teacher, and I don't make excuses for my written language, however it doesn't stop me from creative insight, or experiences on the ground floor. I'm not trying to compete with your ideas, merely displaying results that are real.
1). So you're releasing private corporate information out into the public?

You're claiming that citing expert opinions on a topic is "proof of one's lack of knowledge"...

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#1501 Oct 23, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Are you saying the trans script is wrong, or it doesn't exist? Are you saying my interpretation shouldn't be considered? Besides, even if you're correct it doesn't show planned intentions to destroy Americans. Stop playing gotcha, it's not important to the issues in front of us. Sh-t happens. If you have an accident by running a red light, should we contend you did it on purpose? Should we destroy your right to drive. Don't accidents happen? As I said Shi-t happens yet you can't admit it.
I read the entire transcript, that's where those quotes came from, and where did I state there were "planned intentions to destroy Americans"?

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#1502 Oct 23, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Again your interpretation. Prove it, or allow the investigation to proceed without your speculation and judgement. Don't hang a President until all the evidence is out. There's a good chance this could've happened to anyone. Even you, MR. perfect. It's conservatives like you that sour my taste for Republicans. Republicans were different in the past. I know, because I was one. However people like yourself that panic, and look for cracks to run their agenda, sour my taste.
I did prove it. I assume you read the quotes and analysis provided in my other post since you responded. Can you provide a rebuttal to the argument posed?

It is quite evident that Obama never state the attack was an "Act of Terror", on the contrary, he opened his speech with a remark clearly referring to the Youtube video and then he attributed the violence as a reactionary response.

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#1503 Oct 23, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text> 1). Stop embarrassing yourself. Of course these are corp. bonds fool. Of course bond are not all the same. However, bond values are at a all time high. Why? Bond value is controlled by risk, and interest rates. Interest rates are the lowest they've been in my life. Risk is high based on economic issues. Bonds respond to both. High risk and low interest can equal increased value. Baby boomers are looking for income, and the stock market hasn't delivered in over ten years. Income is what you live on, not capital gains. More and more baby boomers are looking for income, not capital gains. Bingo the bond market. However not triple AAA bonds, junk corporate bonds. If you want to question my style you won't find many experts that will agree. I pay a 6 dollar fee per bond, a 6 dollar fee for the sale of a bond. Unless you can deal in the volume of 250,000 or more you can't receive the same deal. You see I understand Romney very clearly, it's you and your kind that can't comprehend my side of the fence. If your goal is to argue with my results, and how this system works, Romney will continue to think of you as leverage. Romney would think of me as a trader. I'm giving away information only used in the Romney world.
Can you show me where in my post I stated that they weren't corporate bonds please? They are junk bonds, if we take into account corporate bonds as a whole, the numbers are rather dire (as stated multiple times). Merely looking at junk bonds provides an incredibly skewed picture of the market, which was, and has been, my point for the last few posts.
TV MAN

United States

#1504 Oct 23, 2012
Helion Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
I read the entire transcript, that's where those quotes came from, and where did I state there were "planned intentions to destroy Americans"?
Conservatives like you are implying Obama's intentions are planned. If your not, then give it a rest, sh-t happens. Or maybe you're implying the Obama administration made bad decisions. Ok, No one is perfect. Those Americans that died understood the danger before they went. As I've been saying sh-t happens.
TV MAN

United States

#1505 Oct 23, 2012
Helion Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
I did prove it. I assume you read the quotes and analysis provided in my other post since you responded. Can you provide a rebuttal to the argument posed?
It is quite evident that Obama never state the attack was an "Act of Terror", on the contrary, he opened his speech with a remark clearly referring to the Youtube video and then he attributed the violence as a reactionary response.
You didn't prove sh-t. You created a theory based on your interpretation. Tell us something, what has Obama done wrong? Why should it matter in this election? All your evidence can be questioned, and interpreted in different ways. Are you saying Obama did something illegal, or stupid? Are you saying he should be fired over this? Tell me what your trying to say.
TV MAN

United States

#1506 Oct 23, 2012
Helion Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
1). So you're releasing private corporate information out into the public?
You're claiming that citing expert opinions on a topic is "proof of one's lack of knowledge"...
That's right, I'm releasing private corporate information as proof of ownership. What do you want to do about it? Are you difficult based on ignorance, or just trying to make conversation? I never said my style was proof of anything. What I did say is experts will not promote my style. For good reason. It doesn't fit into their scheme of things. Besides the bond market is up. Banks and corporations are exercising their options to release their obligations of paying high interest. How do I know? Their buying me out with premiums. Values are up across the board. If your receiving other information, show me.
TV MAN

United States

#1507 Oct 23, 2012
Helion Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you show me where in my post I stated that they weren't corporate bonds please? They are junk bonds, if we take into account corporate bonds as a whole, the numbers are rather dire (as stated multiple times). Merely looking at junk bonds provides an incredibly skewed picture of the market, which was, and has been, my point for the last few posts.
Dire compared to what? CD's aren't making it. Stocks aren't making it. It's nothing to receive 3 or more percent on class A bonds. Show me where anything with less risk is returning bond interest income.
TV MAN

United States

#1508 Oct 23, 2012
Helion Prime wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you show me where in my post I stated that they weren't corporate bonds please? They are junk bonds, if we take into account corporate bonds as a whole, the numbers are rather dire (as stated multiple times). Merely looking at junk bonds provides an incredibly skewed picture of the market, which was, and has been, my point for the last few posts.
To the contrary, I said don't explain to me what I own. Don't put words in my mouth. You know as well as I, you were merely questioning my knowledge of what I have. It's obvious you're out of your league. It's ok, you can't know everything. Why do you choose to act like it. Sit back and learn something, I'll sit back and let you teach me something. Maybe you could help me in areas I'm weak, but don't be-little me on the bond market.
Bruser

Massapequa, NY

#1509 Oct 24, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>To the contrary, I said don't explain to me what I own. Don't put words in my mouth. You know as well as I, you were merely questioning my knowledge of what I have. It's obvious you're out of your league. It's ok, you can't know everything. Why do you choose to act like it. Sit back and learn something, I'll sit back and let you teach me something. Maybe you could help me in areas I'm weak, but don't be-little me on the bond market.
Slow down greedy one, you will upset your pea brain. What happened?
I haven't been here for a while, I guess someone is taking you down a few steps, and taking the tarnish off of your GOLD. As you were told by someone, "You can't take it with you", not unless you tell them to bury you with your GOD $$$$$$.
Are you going to show your bankbook next idiot??? Now I know why you are in love with Barry Obama Soetoro, you can not stand or recognize the truth. Don't panic yet you have 2 more weeks left before all of your bonds tank fool, still time to sell them to some unsuspecting greedy person like you. Your bankbook must be as empty as your head. Calm down, everyone loses money in the stock market sooner or later, unless you are willing to go public and sell your advice, and make a complete fool of yourself. I didn't realize that you were a genius in your own mind. There too just like Barry Soetoro. I wonder if I can entice Chris Christie to make this speech about you????:

The truth about Barack Barry Soetoro Obama:



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