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#1447
Oct 5, 2012
 
Guess what Bruser, you've been set up. Your herd mentality is working. So is the media. You've all been set up. Media included. Romney is looking like a bully with no detailed plan. Obama has him talking and promising. Lawyers love people to talk and act aggressive. However Obama has a surprise. stay tuned and watch the strategy unfold.
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#1448
Oct 5, 2012
 
The challenger always wins the first debate. This is just one of many of the clips that came from the debates. Adds are being made to run in the battle ground states from, Romney in his own words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

That first round was a rope a dope for sure.

Did I mention more jobs gains and a drop in unemployment?

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#1449
Oct 7, 2012
 
ru kidding wrote:
The challenger always wins the first debate. This is just one of many of the clips that came from the debates. Adds are being made to run in the battle ground states from, Romney in his own words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
That first round was a rope a dope for sure.
Did I mention more jobs gains and a drop in unemployment?
Obviously you realize the video you posted is spliced, thus, nullifying it in any type of serious discussion on the debate, correct?

"Gallup noted that it's seasonally adjusted September unemployment rate remained at 8.1 percent."

Furthermore, any drop in unemployment can be attributed to a fluctuating market, if we look at the unemployment rate from 2000-2008 it was considerably lower than it is now, but it still changed slightly on a month by month basis. Unemployment almost always decreases before a presidential election as well.

Can you cite where you acquired your information on job gains please?
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#1451
Oct 7, 2012
 
Michelle Obama:'Get to the Polls on November the 2'
7:30 AM, Aug 23, 2012 • By DANIEL HALPER
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Michelle Obama, speaking yesterday at a campaign event in Florida:

So that one new voter that you register in your precinct -- think about it -- that one neighbor that you get to the polls on November the 2 I want you to understand, that could be the one that makes the difference. That one conversation, that one new volunteer you recruit, that could be the one that puts this over the top.

The presidential election this year is November 6.

All Obama supporters should get out and vote on Novemeber 2nd.......LOL
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#1453
Oct 10, 2012
 

Black Faith Leaders Plan $1M anti-Obama Effort Over Same-Sex Marriage

Tuesday, 09 Oct 2012 08:04 PM

By Todd Beamon
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A group of African-American faith leaders plan to spend $1 million on an effort to strip President Barack Obama of 25 percent of the black vote that he garnered in 2008.

The new nonprofit group, God Said, announced the campaign on Tuesday, saying it was upset with Obama’s support of same-sex marriage, The Daily Caller reports. The president won 95 percent of the black vote in 2008.

“The black community is among the most religious in America, and we are offended that President Obama has announced his support of same-sex marriage, that the NAACP has blindly supported the secular views of the Democratic Party, and that their national platform plainly supports same-sex marriage,” Apostle Claver Kamau-Imani, a God Said founder, said in a statement published by The Daily Caller.“I am confident that this message will be well received and acted upon on Election Day.”

The group, with 22 advisory board members, plans radio and television ads in Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Wisconsin and Florida. It also has a grass-roots component.

“During the 2008 elections, 70 percent of African-Americans voted to ban same-sex marriage in California while they also voted for Barack Obama for president,” Dr. Alveda King, niece of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., told The Daily Caller.

King also is black outreach director of the pro-life Priests for Life and is a Newsmax contributor.

“We fully intend to shift 25 percent of the black vote from the 2008 election by charging every voter to examine each candidate and vote for the one that supports their core belief in natural marriage.”

God Said has 22 advisory board members, including some affiliated with the Coalition of African-American Pastors, which has announced its own efforts to encourage blacks to not support Obama because of his stance on same-sex marriage.

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(I guess the Landslide is building up against Obama Big Time)
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#1454
Oct 10, 2012
 
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Health Care in Europe far superior to ours. We need Universal Health Care.
You mean the Healthcare bill that Nancy Pewlousy said " You have to vote for it, to know what is in it"?????
They still have the "Death Panel" that will decide for you what medication you will take(if you are on medicare) what treatment you may be "Allowed to take". What plans in your area you are "Allowed to join" (which is why the cost is so high, and why Romney's plan to give vouchers will open up a huge drop in cost as all healthcare providers will have to compete no matter what state they are in)
Obama-death-care, is following the English NHS health care, who by the way according to the UK NHS webside EUTHANIZED 130,000 SENIORS LAST YEAR!!!!! Do not be blinded by the Democratic Lies, or the Falseness of Barry Soetoro Obama, who is a Dumb puppet, that can not speak without a tele-prompter. Stupid voters like you forget all of his promises, and lies that he told, I would need 5 pages here to repeat them all. I was a registered Democ-rat for over 50 years, and these phonies are nothing like the Democrats of the past. They had pride in America. This group is attempting to pander to the lazy ones looking to live on government checks, food stamps, food hand-outs, and live on Obama's lies of the Government takeing care of your from birth to Death. The cost of that is going to End the United States of America, and make us a less than a 3 world country. Obama's answer? Same sex marriage= no children.
Continue pushing Abortions= less births and people to care for.
Healthcare death panels for the people on Medicare= kill them off as they age, they are bothersome because they get sick more often.
Remember this you "Baby-Boomers" you will enter that stage just as the full effect of the Obama-Death-care goes into full swing.
Those of you just going into the 60 yrs old, will be facing the same treatment, but by that time, they will have if perfected, and accepted, and have everyone conditioned to accept it, as they will have no choice by then, as we will have become GREECE-USA.
Barry Soetoro is following what Norman Matoon Thomas said in 1944:

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism.
But, under the name of "Liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened"
He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party.
The Democratic Party has adopted our platform".

The Prediction Of Norman Mattoon Thomas Is Coming True

Today, even the most socialist Dems will still deny that their policies and the policies of Barack Obama are socialist.

Thomas was right. We Americans will never “knowingly” adopt socialism.

Wake up America, Socialism is here already!!! You will be nailing the coffin shut if you vote for Obama again.

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#1455
Oct 10, 2012
 
Helion Prime wrote:
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Obviously you realize the video you posted is spliced, thus, nullifying it in any type of serious discussion on the debate, correct?
"Gallup noted that it's seasonally adjusted September unemployment rate remained at 8.1 percent."
Furthermore, any drop in unemployment can be attributed to a fluctuating market, if we look at the unemployment rate from 2000-2008 it was considerably lower than it is now, but it still changed slightly on a month by month basis. Unemployment almost always decreases before a presidential election as well.
Can you cite where you acquired your information on job gains please?
"The economy had 3.56 million available jobs at the end of August – meaning there are about 3.5 unemployed people for every opening -- the Labor Department reported Wednesday. The number of jobs open equals 2.6% of the total jobs in the economy.

The report was a slight disappointment, said Moody's Analytics economist Sophia Korpeckyj. Employers are hiring more than they were, but that was offset by a slight increase in layoffs, she said, as weakness in manufacturing offset some modest improvement in services hiring.

``It's not really that good,'' she said.``If you look at a several months' average in hiring, we're moving in the wrong direction.''"

What job gains are you referring to? According to this report, taken from USA Today, we're "moving in the wrong direction."
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#1456
Oct 10, 2012
 
Helion Prime wrote:
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"The economy had 3.56 million available jobs at the end of August – meaning there are about 3.5 unemployed people for every opening -- the Labor Department reported Wednesday. The number of jobs open equals 2.6% of the total jobs in the economy.
The report was a slight disappointment, said Moody's Analytics economist Sophia Korpeckyj. Employers are hiring more than they were, but that was offset by a slight increase in layoffs, she said, as weakness in manufacturing offset some modest improvement in services hiring.
``It's not really that good,'' she said.``If you look at a several months' average in hiring, we're moving in the wrong direction.''"
What job gains are you referring to? According to this report, taken from USA Today, we're "moving in the wrong direction."
Yawning!!!!!!!

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#1457
Oct 10, 2012
 
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Yawning!!!!!!!
It's sad to see that the truth bores you.
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#1458
Oct 12, 2012
 
Helion Prime wrote:
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It's sad to see that the truth bores you.
Wrong Helion, stupidity bores me.

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#1459
Oct 13, 2012
 
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong Helion, stupidity bores me.
Can you elaborate a little more please? What about my post is "stupid"?
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#1460
Oct 13, 2012
 
Helion Prime wrote:
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Can you elaborate a little more please? What about my post is "stupid"?
Speculative, Bias interpretations, assuming, unchallenged by law, if you believe so strong in your arguments sue them. Other wise it's only your opinion. I think your reason for concern is unfounded, and stupid.

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#1461
Oct 13, 2012
 
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text> Speculative, Bias interpretations, assuming, unchallenged by law, if you believe so strong in your arguments sue them. Other wise it's only your opinion. I think your reason for concern is unfounded, and stupid.
That wasn't an argument. It was a fact posted by the Labor Department and then an analysts interpretation of the numbers.

Moody's is a corporate finance, banking, managed funds and risk management company. I don't understand how it can be considered "biased, speculative, and unchallenged by law."

Labor Department:

"The economy had 3.56 million available jobs at the end of August – meaning there are about 3.5 unemployed people for every opening -- the Labor Department reported Wednesday. The number of jobs open equals 2.6% of the total jobs in the economy."
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#1462
Oct 14, 2012
 
Helion Prime wrote:
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That wasn't an argument. It was a fact posted by the Labor Department and then an analysts interpretation of the numbers.
Moody's is a corporate finance, banking, managed funds and risk management company. I don't understand how it can be considered "biased, speculative, and unchallenged by law."
Labor Department:
"The economy had 3.56 million available jobs at the end of August – meaning there are about 3.5 unemployed people for every opening -- the Labor Department reported Wednesday. The number of jobs open equals 2.6% of the total jobs in the economy."
The unemployment is under 8% "period". It's just that simple.

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#1463
Oct 14, 2012
 
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>The unemployment is under 8% "period". It's just that simple.
According to Gallup the unemployment remains over 8%. You can search for yourself or oyu can look at my post for the information.
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#1464
Oct 14, 2012
 
Helion Prime wrote:
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According to Gallup the unemployment remains over 8%. You can search for yourself or oyu can look at my post for the information.
I don't care about the gallup. The unemployment rate is less then 8% period. I'm not arguing over creative accounting. It is what it is. Believe it, you would if it was over 8%.

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Oct 14, 2012
 
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>I don't care about the gallup. The unemployment rate is less then 8% period. I'm not arguing over creative accounting. It is what it is. Believe it, you would if it was over 8%.
According to what sources is it below 8%?

"Gallup, Inc., is primarily a research-based performance-management consulting company."

You can't get much more accurate than that.
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#1466
Oct 15, 2012
 
Helion Prime wrote:
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According to what sources is it below 8%?
"Gallup, Inc., is primarily a research-based performance-management consulting company."
You can't get much more accurate than that.
The Labour Department

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#1467
Oct 15, 2012
 
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>The Labour Department
Here's some more information from the Labor Department:

"The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for
27 weeks or more) was little changed at 4.8 million and accounted for 40.1 percent of the unemployed."

"The overall trend in the employment-population ratio for this year has been flat."

"In September, 2.5 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force, essentially unchanged from a year earlier.(These data are not seasonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey."

"Among the marginally attached, there were 802,000 discouraged workers in September. Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining 1.7 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in September had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities."

Here's a table representing the data:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.ht...

The only place where unemployment decreased was for those unemployed for less than 5 weeks. Unemployment rose amongst all other categories since August 2012.
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Oct 15, 2012
 
Helion Prime wrote:
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Here's some more information from the Labor Department:
"The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for
27 weeks or more) was little changed at 4.8 million and accounted for 40.1 percent of the unemployed."
"The overall trend in the employment-population ratio for this year has been flat."
"In September, 2.5 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force, essentially unchanged from a year earlier.(These data are not seasonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey."
"Among the marginally attached, there were 802,000 discouraged workers in September. Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining 1.7 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in September had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities."
Here's a table representing the data:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.ht...
The only place where unemployment decreased was for those unemployed for less than 5 weeks. Unemployment rose amongst all other categories since August 2012.
I could care less about your creative accounting. It doesn't really matter for those without a job. Comprehending the reasons are important. Your goofy party including you, want to make this a Presidential thing, and much of it has been created by the internet. The internet has taken the monopoly out of business. Entrepreneurs are very savvy creating lower costs with better technology. Welcome to the future. Figure it out idiot. Free markets are very unforgiving. Welcome to true Capitalism. What's wrong Fido need protection, and Obama wants to take it away. Try competing and using your brain. Change is good. Traditional methods are on their way out. It's called being pro active, yet you might call it progressive thinking. Exactly what the doctor has ordered.

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