Health Care Debate - Massapequa Park, NY

[TV MAN]

Bruser wrote:

Watch out "Planned Parenthood", the govt may shut down your money!!!Are you now saying that a "Fetus"
is a person, and that Abortion is "MURDER?"
Planned Parenthood admits fetus is human lifeTuesday, May 29, 2012 at 6:29 PM EDT
by Dan Andros
Planned Parenthood wants you to know that they are horrified by the actions of an ‘entry level’ staffer who was caught on undercover camera coaching a client to abuse Medicaid and get a late term abortion solely based on gender preference:
“Planned Parenthood condemns sex selection motivated by gender bias, and urges leaders to challenge the underlying conditions that lead to these beliefs and practices, including addressing the social, legal, economic, and political conditions that promote gender bias and lead some to value one gender over the other.”
“Gender bias is contrary to everything our organization works for daily in communities across the country. Planned Parenthood opposes racism and sexism in all forms, and we work to advance equity and human rights in the delivery of health care,”
Do the folks at Planned Parenthood realize how ridiculous they sound? Here’s an organization that has no problem confidently defending their role in the murder of over 300,000 unborn babies each and every year (while facilitating less than 1,000 adoptions). But they go in full-fledged PR panic mode over fears the latest videos could possibly portray them as having a gender bias? Oh, the horror! Sure, dead babies are being stacked outside the office – but damned if we’ll let them say we favored one sex over the other!
Also, I thought Planned Parenthood believes the fetus in the womb is just a blob of cells, not a human life. Their website says life begins at first breath
The really hot question is,“When does being a person begin?” Most medical authorities and Planned Parenthood agree that it starts when a baby takes its first breath.
Here’s what I’d love to know: how can you have gender bias against a blob of cells? Caught in their own silly game of political correctness, it seems Planned Parenthood may have unwittingly admitted a fetus is a human life. How is aborting what they’ve now admitted is either a male or a female (aka a ‘person’) not murder?

You sound like some little boy that believes in fairy tales. Give us all a break. Im tired of the right wing religious nuts interpreting the bible in their favor. People like you are afraid of the unknown, you make it up as you go. It's time for you and your kind to step aside. You're old school, just like the guy that sold buggy whips. The world is more complicated then you can comprehend. Stop sounding like a little boy with a cell phone to God. Face the truth, it's ok. You don't know sh-t.

[Bruser]

TV MAN wrote:

<quoted text>You sound like some little boy that believes in fairy tales. Give us all a break. Im tired of the right wing religious nuts interpreting the bible in their favor. People like you are afraid of the unknown, you make it up as you go. It's time for you and your kind to step aside. You're old school, just like the guy that sold buggy whips. The world is more complicated then you can comprehend. Stop sounding like a little boy with a cell phone to God. Face the truth, it's ok. You don't know sh-t.

I guess the truth hurts doesn't it!!!

[Bruser]

They are doing fine, with their Daddy Obama,
and fools like TV Man are so blind and will not accept what everyone else knows. Standby for another venomus attack from TV , he can't accept the truth, so he attacks the posters. LOL

Where are Jim, Tim, and Franklin now?

Just in case you might have wondered how their ineptitude affected their
lives after they ruined so many dreams and lives.

Where are Jim, Tim and Franklin now?

Here's a quick look into the three former Fannie Mae executives who
brought down Wall Street.

Franklin Raines- was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie
Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when
auditing discovered severe irregularities in Fannie Mae's accounting
activities. Raines left with a "golden parachute valued at $240 Million
in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth
of the accounting scandal became clear.

Tim Howard- was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard "was
a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would
ensure a "stable pattern of earnings" at Fannie. Investigations by federal
regulators and the company's board of directors since concluded that
management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and
Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004. Howard's Golden Parachute
was estimated at $20 Million!

Jim Johnson- A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later
forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. Investigators found that
Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson's 1998
compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million
and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million." Johnson is currently under
investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as
CEO of Fannie Mae. Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at
$28 Million.
**********
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
FRANKLIN RAINES?
Raines works for the Obama Campaign as his Chief Economic Advisor.

TIM HOWARD?
Howard is a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama under Franklin Raines.

JIM JOHNSON?
Johnson was hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to
run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee

[Chuck]

Bruser wrote:

They are doing fine, with their Daddy Obama,
and fools like TV Man are so blind and will not accept what everyone else knows. Standby for another venomus attack from TV , he can't accept the truth, so he attacks the posters. LOL
Where are Jim, Tim, and Franklin now?
Just in case you might have wondered how their ineptitude affected their
lives after they ruined so many dreams and lives.
Where are Jim, Tim and Franklin now?
Here's a quick look into the three former Fannie Mae executives who
brought down Wall Street.
Franklin Raines- was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie
Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when
auditing discovered severe irregularities in Fannie Mae's accounting
activities. Raines left with a "golden parachute valued at $240 Million
in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth
of the accounting scandal became clear.
Tim Howard- was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard "was
a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would
ensure a "stable pattern of earnings" at Fannie. Investigations by federal
regulators and the company's board of directors since concluded that
management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and
Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004. Howard's Golden Parachute
was estimated at $20 Million!
Jim Johnson- A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later
forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. Investigators found that
Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson's 1998
compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million
and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million." Johnson is currently under
investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as
CEO of Fannie Mae. Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at
$28 Million.
**********
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
FRANKLIN RAINES?
Raines works for the Obama Campaign as his Chief Economic Advisor.
TIM HOWARD?
Howard is a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama under Franklin Raines.
JIM JOHNSON?
Johnson was hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to
run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee

You're such a Green Horn!

[Bruser]

The last thing we needed, like throwing water on a drowning person!

[Bruser]

Bama Booed During Own Fundraiser:‘I Understand, My Mistake’(Updated with White House Spin)

Posted on June 26, 2012 at 7:26am by Jonathon M. Seidl Jonathon M. Seidl

One thing about Boston: the city loves its Red Sox baseball. The president learned that the hard way on Monday during a fundraiser.

While trying to connect with the crowd, Obama thanked the city for recently dealing one of its beloved stars — Kevin Youkilis — to his hometown Chicago White Sox. It didn’t go over well:

“Finally Boston, I just want to say, thank you for Youkalis.” The crowd booed.

“I’m just saying, he’s going to have to change the color of his socks,” the president said laughing.

“I didn’t think I was going to get any boos out here,” he said.“I should not have brought up baseball, I understand, my mistake, my mistake, you got to know your crowd.”

UPDATE: Press Secretary Jay Carney tried early in the day to spin the incident by saying that “(A)nyone who knows Boston, knows the Red Sox and anyone who was in that room last night knows that the preponderance of people shouting in response to what the President said about Kevin Youkilis were saying ‘Yoooook and not Booo’ for God’s sake.”

But later he admitted (after being confronted about the official White House transcript noting the “boos”) that even if that was true, there were some “boos”

What an embarrassment to the Presidency, and the USA.

[Chuck]

Bruser wrote:

The last thing we needed, like throwing water on a drowning person!

Get back on the boat and go home!

[lifes a beach]

TV MAN wrote:

<quoted text>Really! I guess will find out, however polls show Obama receiving 66% of womens vote. Guess what? More women vote then men.

Not mine. And honestly, I don't trust those polls all that much. I can't stand Romney but I like Obama even less and as much as I would love to see a successful third party candidate, I realize that unfortunately, that is not in the near future. Therefore my vote won't be for Romney but against Obama. Most of the younger voter demographic that voted for Obama the first time is entirely turned off by reality of "hope and change" and that it doesn't pay the bills or fix the broken education system.

[Bruser]

THEY IMPEACHED NIXON, AND BECAUSE OF FAST AND FURIOUS, THE SAME SHOULD HAPPEN TO OBAMA. WATCH
THIS PRESS INTERVIEW,IT IS FROM THEIR OWN MOUTHS.
Eric Holder, and Napolitano, should go with him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[TV MAN]

lifes a beach wrote:

<quoted text>
Not mine. And honestly, I don't trust those polls all that much. I can't stand Romney but I like Obama even less and as much as I would love to see a successful third party candidate, I realize that unfortunately, that is not in the near future. Therefore my vote won't be for Romney but against Obama. Most of the younger voter demographic that voted for Obama the first time is entirely turned off by reality of "hope and change" and that it doesn't pay the bills or fix the broken education system.

You and Bruser are focusing on all the wrong issues. You were wrong about the Spureme Court, and you're wrong about this election. Do you want to go there again girlfriend. Your information was wrong on our Supremem Court, why can't it be wrong about elections. TV MAN was right on health care, and I'll be right about Obama. Allow me to explain. The only people listening to you are Republicans. They'll vote Republican know matter what. The only people listening to Dem's are Dem's. They'll vote Dem's know matter what. That equals about 70% of the people. Thirty five percent each. The independents will decide this election. Thirty percent are independent. Now, listen real close. Independents could give a a sh-t less about sex, religion, or rich people taxes. Independents understand 70% of our debt comes from social security, medicare, medicaid, and mandatory programs. Independents understand government can't possibly cut enough to bring down the debt. Higher taxes are a must. If Republicans think they can cut their way to a lower debt, good luck on receiving any votes. Who are you cutting. The 65 year olds that depend on younger people to keep the pipeline running. Or what about those baby boomers getting ready to go on medicare. Give me a break. Ain't happening brother. Most independents don't give a sh-t about rich people and their taxes. Most independents are smart enough to understand a civil society, is much more important then guys making millions. The millionaries aren't going anywhere. Where would they go, Cuba. LOL. With that being said Independents understand a mix of cuts and taxes are needed. Obama will do it. The Republicans are stuck in the mud. Don't test TV's abilities, you've both tried that, and you both lost.

[TV MAN]

Bruser wrote:

THEY IMPEACHED NIXON, AND BECAUSE OF FAST AND FURIOUS, THE SAME SHOULD HAPPEN TO OBAMA. WATCH
THIS PRESS INTERVIEW,IT IS FROM THEIR OWN MOUTHS.
Eric Holder, and Napolitano, should go with him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Good luck "FOOL". Why don't you do what smart people do? Stop the bashing, and figure out how to play a new game.Other wise you're blowing in the wind. Suck it Up loser.

[Bruser]

too costly, we are at the brink of bankruptcy

[Get lost loser]

Obamacare-like “Death Panels” are already emptying out hospital beds in the United Kingdom. According to one report last year the UK’s National Health Service (NHS) euthanized 130,000, mostly expendable seniors. Its benignly named “Care Pathways”, kills almost 360 people every day.
Now it’s Obamcare’s turn to euthanize undesirables. The Supreme Court gave Barack Obama the right to start his own extermination program. Anybody who needs “a little bit too much care” will get put on Obama’s list. If you were born before January 1, 1953 he has put a target on your back. You had better not get sick and you had better pray someone derails Obamcare’s euthanasia train before a “Death Panel” gavel comes down on your life. When Obama’s verdict is death for you there can be no appeal – that’s in the bill.


This system needs your death to appear to work. That is the reality of the Supreme Court’s ruling – make believe that’s not a clear and present danger and you are fooling yourself – it’s that simple and that serious.
Government programs NEVER cost near what the liars in Washington tell us they will. Simple observation tells us Obamacare is a giant Ponzi scheme. Under Obamacare, you will become a number and government bureaucrats will kill off “numbers” to make their program seem to work. They will ration care and kill off the old (60 plus) the mentally and the physically challenged.
Democrats rightly claim the phrase “Death Panels” does not appear in Obamacare’s 2000 plus pages, but why should it? They don’t want us to recognize what they are really up to; liberals never do. Saying Obamacare has no “Death Panels” because those two words aren’t in the bill is a cynical lie. The Nazis never sent Jews to “Extermination camps” or gas chambers; they sent them to “Work camps and showers.”
Liberal Paul Krugman got it right when he slipped and said,“Some years down the pike, we’re going to get the real solution, which is going to be a combination of death panels and sales taxes…..”
Obamacare is early death wrapped in government double talk disguised to keep us from understanding the truth. Some years down the pike, we’re going to get the truth. That truth is that to these people we’re all just numbers they will spend their careers trying to find ways to reduce. Let’s do something about it now. Vote conservative in November. Go Conservative, Go USA.

[Get lost loser]

If TV Man likes Obama-care so much, why doesn't he volunteer to be first on the line with the Death Panel???? When he thought he had heart troubles, they never would have looked much further, and would tell him to WAIT, we'll see what happens. The problem wasn't his heart, but his MOUTH, and Thick Head.
What a loser!

[TV MAN]

Get lost loser wrote:

If TV Man likes Obama-care so much, why doesn't he volunteer to be first on the line with the Death Panel???? When he thought he had heart troubles, they never would have looked much further, and would tell him to WAIT, we'll see what happens. The problem wasn't his heart, but his MOUTH, and Thick Head.
What a loser!

Republicans are defining medical directives as death panels. I've already got one. Obama didn't need to make it law for me. However stop re-defining words to fit your agenda. Do you even know what a medical directive is? If you did, you wouldn't call them death panels "FOOL".

[save your souls]

I just checked with English NHS svc. They have verified the above. In addition their cost reduction is due to people speaking "Over the "Tele" instead of speaking to their Doctors face to face. This is one of the many stories I had gotten from their own website:

About NHS Direct
• NHS Direct’s aim is to provide people in England with expert health advice,
information and reassurance to care for themselves at home or access
appropriate healthcare, using world class telephone and website services.
• The NHS Direct health information and advice line handles 15,000 calls a day.
That’s over 5 million calls a year.
• The NHS Direct website ( www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk ) receives around 1.5 million visits
each month.
• NHS Direct employs over 3,400 staff, over 1,400 of whom are trained nurses.

You can see where this is going. You soon enough will not be allowed to speak, or chose to visit your PC doctor, as the Government health service will screen your calls, and advise you to speak to a trained NURSE. Would you rather speak to your MD instead of a "Trained Nurse"?
AARP had instituted this on a minor level, and now that Obama-care has passed, he will cut the services to the elderly, inorder to make room for the 56 million additional people he will pay for.
In case any of you are 65 or older, find out for yourself if starting in 2014, you will not have to meet with a health panel run by the government, every 6 months. They will go over all of the treatments you receive, and what medication you can take. Ask your representative to explain this feature to you. If he is a Democrat, you had better speak "Double-talk". Remember, Nancy Pewlosy
had told the House members "you have to pass the health bill, inorder to know what is in it". Research it for yourself, if you doubt that is what had happened, because the House, and the Senate were controlled by the Democrats who had the majority in both houses, and there was no way for the Republicans to stop it.
Wake up America, you will be killing your parents, and your grandparents. The last two years of Bush, he couldn't get anything done because the Democrats controlled both houses.
And even with that, Obama still hasn't passed a budget since he took office. He will blame everyone for his failings, and I guess the only person yet he hasn't blamed is GOD(because I doubt that he believes in HIM)

[TV MAN]

save your souls wrote:

I just checked with English NHS svc. They have verified the above. In addition their cost reduction is due to people speaking "Over the "Tele" instead of speaking to their Doctors face to face. This is one of the many stories I had gotten from their own website:
About NHS Direct
• NHS Direct’s aim is to provide people in England with expert health advice,
information and reassurance to care for themselves at home or access
appropriate healthcare, using world class telephone and website services.
• The NHS Direct health information and advice line handles 15,000 calls a day.
That’s over 5 million calls a year.
• The NHS Direct website ( www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk ) receives around 1.5 million visits
each month.
• NHS Direct employs over 3,400 staff, over 1,400 of whom are trained nurses.
You can see where this is going. You soon enough will not be allowed to speak, or chose to visit your PC doctor, as the Government health service will screen your calls, and advise you to speak to a trained NURSE. Would you rather speak to your MD instead of a "Trained Nurse"?
AARP had instituted this on a minor level, and now that Obama-care has passed, he will cut the services to the elderly, inorder to make room for the 56 million additional people he will pay for.
In case any of you are 65 or older, find out for yourself if starting in 2014, you will not have to meet with a health panel run by the government, every 6 months. They will go over all of the treatments you receive, and what medication you can take. Ask your representative to explain this feature to you. If he is a Democrat, you had better speak "Double-talk". Remember, Nancy Pewlosy
had told the House members "you have to pass the health bill, inorder to know what is in it". Research it for yourself, if you doubt that is what had happened, because the House, and the Senate were controlled by the Democrats who had the majority in both houses, and there was no way for the Republicans to stop it.
Wake up America, you will be killing your parents, and your grandparents. The last two years of Bush, he couldn't get anything done because the Democrats controlled both houses.
And even with that, Obama still hasn't passed a budget since he took office. He will blame everyone for his failings, and I guess the only person yet he hasn't blamed is GOD(because I doubt that he believes in HIM)

Yawning.

[buffer]

Right , Kill off all of those elderly people , to make room for the 56 million illegals. Check out how many people in England have been euthanized.

[Bruser]

We are out of money, and they want to spend even more of OUR MONEY.

[what sense]

Listen to this interview, and save it. You will be able to explain to your grandchildren and their children why they are Muslim Slaves!

http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/07/19/developin...