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TexasBuckeye 963

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Oct 3, 2009
 
We can't afford it after the trillions Obama already wasted and regardless of what they say, anyone with any smarts knows taxes will go up to pay for it and all of us resent them treating us like a bunch of idiots who can't read and figure things out on our own. Plus, if 85% have coverage they want and are happy with it, why force us to go on a plan we DON'T want ??!! If they feel the need to cover the 5 or 10,000 who need it, then cover them BUT LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE !! Why is that so hard to understand? Belgium let's people choose ~ they can sign up for the governement plan or they can have their own private health care !! Why can't those in D.C. do that here? This is America where we are supposed to have FREEDOM OF CHOICE and I resent you taking my choices away from me and millions of others who feel as I do. We aren't a bunch of dummies and THAT is why Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Baucus and the other crumbs don't want us to read what they are proposing because they don't care what WE want, they only care what they want. Let them move to Russia and enjoy the fruits of their labor over there ~ they are NOT TRUE AMERICANS to do this to others who have said NO NO NO NO NO !! What part of NO don't the idiots understand??? And above all else ~ DO NOT cover ILLEGALS !! What part of illegal don't you understand but then, you folks in Washington promised to uphold the Constitution and I don't see you doing that either. So Joe Wilson spoke the truth ~ Obama lies ~ Pelosi lies ~ Reid lies ~ Baucus lies ~ and on and on that list goes. All of you will answer to God for this mess and disrespectful you have created. And by the way Pelosi ~ I took out stock in Kleenex after your "wrenching" display of "tears" over the 70s in CA and guess what? It went bankrupt because they don't make fake Kleenex to go with fake tears. What a joke and embarrassment you all are to our country.
Mike

Garland, TX

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#2
Nov 10, 2009
 
Obama plan will increase my taxes and damages our current health care system which needs only some adjustments.
fiddlesticks

Garland, TX

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#3
Nov 12, 2009
 
The problem lies with the Dr office and paperwork.
And greed, I might add.
People who work and pay insurance and don't really use it a lot. Say me for example, I had a good job with insurance for yrs and when I lost my job I got sick and had to go to Parkland without insurance. I don't drink, smoke either. All the money I worked hard for and paid for insurance went for someone else, didn't help me when I needed it most. Now I can't work and get any insurance, so I have to wait til I am old enough to go on medicare or medicaid if I should have to go to Parkland again.

Working people need something done about this situation.

Don't look to the Dr's or the insurance or the companies to do anything.... they are on the gravy train, making money from those with insurance !!!!!

and the pharmaceutical companies... another story
smarty

Dallas, TX

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#4
Nov 17, 2009
 
Those of us who have health insurance are paying for those who don't. If the 46 million who are currently uninsured obtain insurance, the burden on us will be eased.
eddie vanhalen

Rowlett, TX

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#5
Nov 17, 2009
 
I cant TAKE IT ANY MORE GET ME A BEER
fiddlesticks

Garland, TX

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Nov 18, 2009
 
smarty wrote:
Those of us who have health insurance are paying for those who don't. If the 46 million who are currently uninsured obtain insurance, the burden on us will be eased.
Yes, and IF they get sick they have insurance.
There's loads of money being spent on corporate bonuses in the insurance business and hospital administration by those who have access to the money, just like the Wall St financial businesses.
I know my uncle was high up in the military years ago. He could splurge on anything and guess what he ate the most god-awful large steaks and drank 7-up and Pepsi's like water and wine too, I don't think he ever drank water or exercise. He was bigger than Elvis, food and drink was his "drug". He died at age 42, weighing over 300 lbs. He had a couple of heart attacks, diabetic as they can get. I don't know what kind of meds he was on, but he was in the hospital for bypass surgery before he died That was before the military told people to lose weight or get out. I would think a lot of money is spent on liquor in the military by those in high positions just like corporations.
These people are living in excess with other people's money.
l thomas

Chicago, IL

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#7
Dec 14, 2009
 
cost too high.
Questioner

Colorado City, TX

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Dec 14, 2009
 
l thomas wrote:
cost too high.
Now, under private insurance and medicare/medicade. or under HR 3590?(a vehicle for the senate to revise HR 3962)

Note: the right to my question is that nobody knows.
Noddog

Garland, TX

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Dec 22, 2009
 
People need something

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Since: Jul 07

Richardson, Texas

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Jan 7, 2010
 
fiddlesticks wrote:
The problem lies with the Dr office and paperwork.
And greed, I might add.
People who work and pay insurance and don't really use it a lot. Say me for example, I had a good job with insurance for yrs and when I lost my job I got sick and had to go to Parkland without insurance. I don't drink, smoke either. All the money I worked hard for and paid for insurance went for someone else, didn't help me when I needed it most. Now I can't work and get any insurance, so I have to wait til I am old enough to go on medicare or medicaid if I should have to go to Parkland again.
Working people need something done about this situation.
Don't look to the Dr's or the insurance or the companies to do anything.... they are on the gravy train, making money from those with insurance !!!!!
and the pharmaceutical companies... another story
Do you not remember Bush's plan that was establishing medical savings accounts so that the money would be there to pay the expense when it was needed most?

Parkland was there for you, no one is going without treatment now.

Also, were you saving money for your retirement during your career? That seems to be a clue some people miss: Living below your means.

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Since: Jul 07

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Jan 7, 2010
 
Socialism fails whenever it's tried, surprises me that people have to relearn their own history.

This program is modeled after Great Britain and Canada's systems; Places that frequently have citizens coming to America for the higher quality health care.
Bubba

Rowlett, TX

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Jan 7, 2010
 
You know, all of you have no concept of the many people who die each day because they do not have health care. Yes, they could go to a Parkland, IF they had access to one. Yes, they could go to a doctor IF they were dying...maybe. People who cannot afford health insurance often put things off because they know they cannot afford the costs associated with medical care. As a result their illnesses and injuries often result in worsening conditions.

My mom and dad were wiped out by a catastophic illness about ten years ago. The bills so were high that even their insurance wouldn't take care of it. Had to sell the house, move in with us, and the trauma from it all soon took both of them.

You may think YOU have decent healthcare too, but let one major medical problem come up, and you could be wiped out in a matter of days.

I always find in interesting that those who complain about healthcare for all are those who have never had a major medical problems. Sorry, but no one should die because they don't have health insurance, and no one should go broke when they get sick.
MJayM wrote:
Socialism fails whenever it's tried, surprises me that people have to relearn their own history.
This program is modeled after Great Britain and Canada's systems; Places that frequently have citizens coming to America for the higher quality health care.
Mercy

Garland, TX

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Jan 7, 2010
 
MJayM wrote:
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Do you not remember Bush's plan that was establishing medical savings accounts so that the money would be there to pay the expense when it was needed most?
Parkland was there for you, no one is going without treatment now.
Also, were you saving money for your retirement during your career? That seems to be a clue some people miss: Living below your means.
Ole Bush wanted to save money for medical expenses.... that's a joke, people making less money don't live like those making a
"salary". Lots of people cannot keep a job and pay their living
expenses. Some may have to be "below your means" Whatever that means.
Rising health cost include price of medical test, and pharmaceuticals.
I know a 60 yr old man who has some kind of tumor, found out from his yearly blood work. He is still smoking, which the doc told him to quit. Personal responsibility goes a long way to helping, whether or not we have government, socialism or whatever involved in health care. This mess of insurance carries a lot of responsibility for people, they don't want to quit bad health habits.

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Jan 7, 2010
 
Bubba wrote:
You know, all of you have no concept of the many people who die each day because they do not have health care. Yes, they could go to a Parkland, IF they had access to one. Yes, they could go to a doctor IF they were dying...maybe. People who cannot afford health insurance often put things off because they know they cannot afford the costs associated with medical care. As a result their illnesses and injuries often result in worsening conditions.
My mom and dad were wiped out by a catastophic illness about ten years ago. The bills so were high that even their insurance wouldn't take care of it. Had to sell the house, move in with us, and the trauma from it all soon took both of them.
You may think YOU have decent healthcare too, but let one major medical problem come up, and you could be wiped out in a matter of days.
I always find in interesting that those who complain about healthcare for all are those who have never had a major medical problems. Sorry, but no one should die because they don't have health insurance, and no one should go broke when they get sick.
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Interesting you should say that. I'm 39. I pay 85 a month, Blue Cross Blue Shield (BCBS). My wife is 32, and had 3 internal surgeries last year with 19 days in the hospital. Bill? 117,000 dollars. My fee? a little over 3K. I asked them if I could pay it out over a little time, and they said sure. I paid them about 275 a month for a year. Her monthly premium is 139. I consider that good care. Our upper limit is 5 million, deductible is 2500 per annum.

What did both of your parents have? Their carrier? Total cost?

I mean, I'm sorry and all, but I bought this policy myself, not through an employer and I'm just a few miles from Flower Mound, your ISP addy.

I really am curious what your particulars were in this event.

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Since: Jul 07

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Jan 7, 2010
 
Mercy wrote:
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Ole Bush wanted to save money for medical expenses.... that's a joke, people making less money don't live like those making a
"salary". Lots of people cannot keep a job and pay their living
expenses. Some may have to be "below your means" Whatever that means.
Rising health cost include price of medical test, and pharmaceuticals.
I know a 60 yr old man who has some kind of tumor, found out from his yearly blood work. He is still smoking, which the doc told him to quit. Personal responsibility goes a long way to helping, whether or not we have government, socialism or whatever involved in health care. This mess of insurance carries a lot of responsibility for people, they don't want to quit bad health habits.
Living below your means equals discipline.

No one has an excuse to stay in poverty. Go paint curbs, go sell newspapers on the corner, go rake some leaves or cut some firewood.

I started a landscape company 15 years ago to pay my taxes. Yep, pushing a lawnmower after work for about 20 a yard. I also continued my education in construction, irrigation, and also volunteered to work for other companies for no money in order to learn skills. This was all after my other full time job.

Today I run 4 trucks and have 10 employees.

Need some cheese with that whine?
Mercy

Garland, TX

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Jan 9, 2010
 
MJayM wrote:
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Living below your means equals discipline.
No one has an excuse to stay in poverty. Go paint curbs, go sell newspapers on the corner, go rake some leaves or cut some firewood.
I started a landscape company 15 years ago to pay my taxes. Yep, pushing a lawnmower after work for about 20 a yard. I also continued my education in construction, irrigation, and also volunteered to work for other companies for no money in order to learn skills. This was all after my other full time job.
Today I run 4 trucks and have 10 employees.
Need some cheese with that whine?
I see where you say you're 39. Your attitude will change after
50, or maybe 55.
May God keep you well and working.
Time has ways of changing everything. Of course people do need to keep working as long as possible. It helps to start young,
learn as much as you can. And manage to save a little of what you earn.
Mercy

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Jan 9, 2010
 
MJayM wrote:
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Interesting you should say that. I'm 39. I pay 85 a month, Blue Cross Blue Shield (BCBS). My wife is 32, and had 3 internal surgeries last year with 19 days in the hospital. Bill? 117,000 dollars. My fee? a little over 3K. I asked them if I could pay it out over a little time, and they said sure. I paid them about 275 a month for a year. Her monthly premium is 139. I consider that good care. Our upper limit is 5 million, deductible is 2500 per annum.
What did both of your parents have? Their carrier? Total cost?
I mean, I'm sorry and all, but I bought this policy myself, not through an employer and I'm just a few miles from Flower Mound, your ISP addy.
I really am curious what your particulars were in this event.
Your wife is 32 and has 3 surgeries.
I didn't have any til I was 45, had a fibroid tumor growing large. I had insurance then. Since then I've been to Parkland with a much worse illness at age 50. but the magic number for
medicare insurance is 65, not before unless you can get Social Security disability.
My grandparents lived to be in their 90's. When they paid into
Social Security, long before medicare. People didn't want to pay into it. But somewhere along the 1980's it served my grandpa very well, he had never been in the hospital in his life. But at age 90 he had to have gall bladder surgery. His farm was sold to pay his nursing home bill. You see, my grandparents lived thru the 1930's depression, raised 11 children responsibly.
Sometimes you cannot see far enough ahead in life for everything.

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Jan 9, 2010
 
TexasBuckeye 963 wrote:
And by the way Pelosi ~ I took out stock in Kleenex after your "wrenching" display of "tears" over the 70s in CA and guess what? It went bankrupt because they don't make fake Kleenex to go with fake tears. What a joke and embarrassment you all are to our country.
Not like Glen Becks tears....they were real man. He just loves his country....well sort of. But hey, lets watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Heres Glen telling us what a bad medical system we have....before he says it's the best. It takes a real man to watch this.....do your best.

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Jan 9, 2010
 
MJayM wrote:
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Interesting you should say that. I'm 39. I pay 85 a month, Blue Cross Blue Shield (BCBS). My wife is 32, and had 3 internal surgeries last year with 19 days in the hospital. Bill? 117,000 dollars. My fee? a little over 3K. I asked them if I could pay it out over a little time, and they said sure. I paid them about 275 a month for a year. Her monthly premium is 139. I consider that good care. Our upper limit is 5 million, deductible is 2500 per annum.
What did both of your parents have? Their carrier? Total cost?
I mean, I'm sorry and all, but I bought this policy myself, not through an employer and I'm just a few miles from Flower Mound, your ISP addy.
I really am curious what your particulars were in this event.
Please pass more info on about your plan...never have I seen such low premiums. Are you serious?
AmeriBrit

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Jan 9, 2010
 
MJayM wrote:
Socialism fails whenever it's tried, surprises me that people have to relearn their own history.
This program is modeled after Great Britain and Canada's systems; Places that frequently have citizens coming to America for the higher quality health care.
In my experience of healthcare, in both US and UK, I have received excellent care in both countries. However, I paid less out of my wage towards the NHS than the insurance premiums cost me in the US. My family also struggles to pay the deductibles but I never paid a penny extra in England. I worked in healthcare for many years too and never saw anyone that had to wait for an operation. The NHS isn't perfect at all and really needs to be updated but the British public will never swap it for the healthcare system that is in place at the moment in the US. I would agree that the healthcare that is available here is wonderful, but it isn't any good to anyone in the US if the citizens can't afford it but the rich from abroad can!

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