Health Care Debate - Deer Park, TX

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One Nut

Brentwood, NY

#17328 Dec 20, 2013
Bruser wrote:
I wonder if "That's all" (other than name calling) can explain this, no other Liberals (liberal = no intelligent thoughts of their own) can!
http://healthrevelations.net/HTML5/Encode_S_O...
I believe if anyone is ill, they should at least check this out, it may just save someone's life.
Merry Christmas, God loves you!
One Nut Bruser
Avoid the penalty

Bronx, NY

#17329 Jan 7, 2014
Now that it's 2014, most people will have to have health insurance or be subject to that we've been hearing so much about. This first year the penalty is fairly small — if you're without insurance for the entire year it's the larger of $95 or 1 percent of (taxable income in excess of the IRS filing threshold) for an individual. It goes up in future years.

If you don't have insurance, you have until the end of March to buy coverage and still avoid the penalty. That's because you can be without insurance for up to three consecutive months before penalties are applied. If you don't earn enough to file income taxes, you're not subject to the penalty.

The penalty is prorated on a monthly basis. For every month you lack insurance beyond three months, each family member pays a monthly penalty.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17330 Jan 7, 2014
I totally agree wrote:
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Two Nut Bags


Instead of posting like the babbling idiot that you are, you need to try real hard to sound somewhat literate. I'm going to give you the libtards playbook on how to have a debate. No need to thank me. I'm offering it as a free public service.

BTW: Don't worry. It's only 8 lines so it won't overtax your 3 remaining brain cells.

1. Ad Hominem (Name-Calling aka “You’re a Racist!” etc.)

2. Distracting (aka “Pivoting” aka “Changing the Subject”)

3. Somebody Else Did It Before (aka Two Wrongs Make a Right)

4. Obama Doesn’t Know What’s Going On (Or Did I Do That?)

5. It’s a Far-Right Conspiracy (Or The Koch Brothers Did It)

6. You Heard That on Faux News

7. Argumentum Ad Misericordium (Or “Do it for the Children”)

8. It’s Bush’s Fault
TV MAN

United States

#17331 Jan 7, 2014
Avoid the penalty wrote:
Now that it's 2014, most people will have to have health insurance or be subject to that we've been hearing so much about. This first year the penalty is fairly small — if you're without insurance for the entire year it's the larger of $95 or 1 percent of (taxable income in excess of the IRS filing threshold) for an individual. It goes up in future years.
If you don't have insurance, you have until the end of March to buy coverage and still avoid the penalty. That's because you can be without insurance for up to three consecutive months before penalties are applied. If you don't earn enough to file income taxes, you're not subject to the penalty.
The penalty is prorated on a monthly basis. For every month you lack insurance beyond three months, each family member pays a monthly penalty.
It's interesting how concerned you are about the penalty, however you don't seem concerned with the involuntary case of illness. Don't you think you should take that in consideration?
TV MAN

United States

#17332 Jan 7, 2014
Defiant1 wrote:
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Instead of posting like the babbling idiot that you are, you need to try real hard to sound somewhat literate. I'm going to give you the libtards playbook on how to have a debate. No need to thank me. I'm offering it as a free public service.
BTW: Don't worry. It's only 8 lines so it won't overtax your 3 remaining brain cells.
1. Ad Hominem (Name-Calling aka “You’re a Racist!” etc.)
2. Distracting (aka “Pivoting” aka “Changing the Subject”)
3. Somebody Else Did It Before (aka Two Wrongs Make a Right)
4. Obama Doesn’t Know What’s Going On (Or Did I Do That?)
5. It’s a Far-Right Conspiracy (Or The Koch Brothers Did It)
6. You Heard That on Faux News
7. Argumentum Ad Misericordium (Or “Do it for the Children”)
8. It’s Bush’s Fault
Wrong again Defiant1. It's your anger that get's in the way.The problem with your opinion, it doesn't take in consideration both sides. You're no better then the side you talk about. You're the type of person that doesn't stop tell the jury agrees. Until then you're not happy. In fact it's people like you that help the media with all the negative feelings. The personality is based on a lack of happiness. I've told you that before. In many cases, once a loser always a loser.
TV MAN

United States

#17333 Jan 7, 2014
Bruser wrote:
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Buffett: Scrap Obamacare and Start All Over
By Money Morning Staff Reports Updated 11:08am EDT 10/01/2013
When asked, "Are you in favor of scrapping [Obamacare] and going back to start over?", famed investor Warren Buffett said on CNBC March 1, 2010, "I would be — if I were President Obama.”
Buffett insisted that without changes to America's health system average citizens will suffer.
"We have a health system that, in terms of costs, is really out of control," he added. "And if you take this line and you project what has been happening into the future, we will get less and less competitive. So we need something else."
Three debate-ridden years later, millions of Americans still agree.
But now that the exchanges are open, Obamacare has finally kicked off.
The government program, which some economists call the biggest tax increase ever in the United States, is also one of the most hated bills in history.
Ask millions of Americans what they think about the new law, and chances are they're ready to pop a jugular.
Critics heavily oppose the mandate requiring them to purchase health insurance. They're also furious at all the new taxes, fees, and higher premiums they'll be stuck paying, thanks to Obamacare.
Yet, while millions of Americans loathe every facet of The Affordable Care Act, as it's officially titled, another group of Americans see it as a once-in-a lifetime opportunity to get rich: Investors.
Obamacare may cost Americans 25% of their paycheck or more on January 1st. Are you at risk? Find out here.
According to Wall Street expert and Money Map Press Chief Investment Strategist, Keith Fitz-Gerald, Obamacare will create unheard of riches for investors who tap into the right companies.
"Obamacare is one of the single biggest wealth creation opportunities to hit the markets in decades," says Fitz-Gerald. "That's because huge amounts of money - trillions - will be spent as Obamacare gets rolling."
"And trillions more will be reallocated," he adds.
Not all companies will benefit - but a select few are primed for higher returns on a scale that was simply unimaginable before this legislation was passed.
These companies, and their investors, are set to make a fortune in the next several months - and years - as the full Obamacare plan gets underway.
Fitz-Gerald says main street investors will have a chance to reap big paydays - provided they know which sectors stand to benefit most.
Publisher's Note: Fitz-Gerald reveals the two sections of Obamacare that will create a new generation of millionaires.
With the implementation of Obamacare quickly approaching, Americans are asking what they can do to prepare for all the new costs and rules.
One expert, Betsy McCaughey, former Lieutenant Governor of New York and constitutional scholar with a Ph.D. from Columbia University, recently wrote a best-selling book showing Americans how they can survive Obamacare.
McCaughey is one of the only people in the country -- including members of Congress - who has actually read the entire 2,572 page law.
Her book, titled Beating Obamacare: Your Handbook for Surviving the New Health Care Law breaks down the complicated bill into 168 pages of actionable advice.
(And just about every congressman and Senator has not read the Obama-care law. Nancy Pewlousy told House reps " you have to vote for it inorder to know what is in it" anyone want to buy gold in a bag and not open the bag until you get home?)
More non-productive rant. Yawning.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17334 Jan 7, 2014
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text> It's interesting how concerned you are about the penalty, however you don't seem concerned with the involuntary case of illness. Don't you think you should take that in consideration?
President Obama’s famous vow —“If you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan. Period.”— isn’t the only broken promise of ObamaCare.

Now that the Affordable Care Act has actually been in effect for a week, Americans are discovering more pitfalls associated with the massive overhaul.

Lie #1:“Affordable” Care. Even the president’s ideological allies — like Michael Moore — acknowledge that the Affordable Care Act is far from inexpensive for most Americans and that it “risks being a cruel joke.”

For average Americans, the results are prohibitively expensive.“The cheapest plan available to a 60-year-old couple making $65,000 a year in Hartford, Conn., will cost $11,800 in annual premiums,” according to Moore’s math, as published in a New York Times editorial.“If both become seriously ill, they might have to pay almost $25,000 in a single year.”

http://nypost.com/2014/01/05/4-biggest-lies-a...
TV MAN

United States

#17335 Jan 7, 2014
Defiant1 wrote:
<quoted text>
President Obama’s famous vow —“If you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan. Period.”— isn’t the only broken promise of ObamaCare.
Now that the Affordable Care Act has actually been in effect for a week, Americans are discovering more pitfalls associated with the massive overhaul.
Lie #1:“Affordable” Care. Even the president’s ideological allies — like Michael Moore — acknowledge that the Affordable Care Act is far from inexpensive for most Americans and that it “risks being a cruel joke.”
For average Americans, the results are prohibitively expensive.“The cheapest plan available to a 60-year-old couple making $65,000 a year in Hartford, Conn., will cost $11,800 in annual premiums,” according to Moore’s math, as published in a New York Times editorial.“If both become seriously ill, they might have to pay almost $25,000 in a single year.”
http://nypost.com/2014/01/05/4-biggest-lies-a...
It depends on what you consider expensive. Many Americans consider 2500 dollars expensive. Mostly because their cheap on the sick side. If you bet on not getting sick your in trouble. If you take the high deductible plan and you don't get sick your premiums are low. If you get sick on the low deductible side your not in much better shape. A 4000 dollar deductible for a 60 year old pays 100 percent after the 4000 dollars. If you have a 125,000 dollar bill you pay four grand. However, cheap people don't like the 4000 dollar deductible, so they pay the price when they get sick. You don't know enough about getting sick to debate the subject. You're nothing more then a victim of losers.
Texas Ranger

Bronx, NY

#17336 Jan 8, 2014
Defiant1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Instead of posting like the babbling idiot that you are, you need to try real hard to sound somewhat literate. I'm going to give you the libtards playbook on how to have a debate. No need to thank me. I'm offering it as a free public service.
BTW: Don't worry. It's only 8 lines so it won't overtax your 3 remaining brain cells.
1. Ad Hominem (Name-Calling aka “You’re a Racist!” etc.)
2. Distracting (aka “Pivoting” aka “Changing the Subject”)
3. Somebody Else Did It Before (aka Two Wrongs Make a Right)
4. Obama Doesn’t Know What’s Going On (Or Did I Do That?)
5. It’s a Far-Right Conspiracy (Or The Koch Brothers Did It)
6. You Heard That on Faux News
7. Argumentum Ad Misericordium (Or “Do it for the Children”)
8. It’s Bush’s Fault
Hey Yankee it's time you learned a little history about Texas.

TV MAN

United States

#17337 Jan 8, 2014
Defiant1 has no defense. He or she never has. It's all about him or her. Typical mental midget. He or she isn't happy with he or she's life. They always look for reasons to excuse their own mistakes. They do a lot of talking but not much listening. They put very little thought into reality. Why? They have a problem dealing with reality. That's why most don't own anything of value. What they do own isn't of any significance. Most can't see a liability even when it hits them between the eyes. They label everyone. If you don't think like them you're automatically labeled as the other side. Defiant1 is a dying breed. Twenty years from now he or she will be in the same place. Whining.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17338 Jan 8, 2014
TV MAN wrote:
Defiant1 has no defense. He or she never has. It's all about him or her. Typical mental midget. He or she isn't happy with he or she's life. They always look for reasons to excuse their own mistakes. They do a lot of talking but not much listening. They put very little thought into reality. Why? They have a problem dealing with reality. That's why most don't own anything of value. What they do own isn't of any significance. Most can't see a liability even when it hits them between the eyes. They label everyone. If you don't think like them you're automatically labeled as the other side. Defiant1 is a dying breed. Twenty years from now he or she will be in the same place. Whining.
Reality is what you worthless DemoRat parasites do to everyone's standard of living with your rotten get rich quick schemes marketed as altruism. This country is finished thanks to you and your ilk. The global elite are only using you fools. Just wait until the bottom of the economy falls out. You morons will find out just how smart you really are.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#17339 Jan 9, 2014
TV MAN wrote:
Defiant1 has no defense. He or she never has. It's all about him or her. Typical mental midget. He or she isn't happy with he or she's life. They always look for reasons to excuse their own mistakes. They do a lot of talking but not much listening. They put very little thought into reality. Why? They have a problem dealing with reality. That's why most don't own anything of value. What they do own isn't of any significance. Most can't see a liability even when it hits them between the eyes. They label everyone. If you don't think like them you're automatically labeled as the other side. Defiant1 is a dying breed. Twenty years from now he or she will be in the same place. Whining.
LOL Defiant1 he says you have no defense, and yet look at his post number 17333, when he answers my documented post and has answer but to say "yawn and rant", Ha ha ha, and the
Teapot calling the kettle....... Burnt out by the TV he watches and alcohol consumption.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#17340 Jan 9, 2014
The goings on up in stupidville New York City:

More NY city council idiotic actions:
The Liberal Mayors of New York City have done every idiotic thing they have to disrupt harmony in the City.
From Bloomberg, Mayor Dinkins, the only good Mayor was Mayor Giuliani. Just seen, Is New York City Mayoral Candidate Bill de Blasio the New Dinkins ??????
www.thedailybeast.com/.../is-new-york-city-ma ... ;
Sep 5, 2013 - Fred Siegel on mayoral candidate Bill de Blasio's misguided attempt to depict Dinkins as a crime fighter.(He allowed rioting over Rodny King to continue for 3 days in NY City) Some crime fighter.

Just imagine what destruction he will cause to NY City.
Texas Ranger

West Babylon, NY

#17341 Jan 9, 2014
Bruser wrote:
The goings on up in stupidville New York City:
More NY city council idiotic actions:
The Liberal Mayors of New York City have done every idiotic thing they have to disrupt harmony in the City.
From Bloomberg, Mayor Dinkins, the only good Mayor was Mayor Giuliani. Just seen, Is New York City Mayoral Candidate Bill de Blasio the New Dinkins ??????
www.thedailybeast.com/.../is-new-york-city-ma ... ;
Sep 5, 2013 - Fred Siegel on mayoral candidate Bill de Blasio's misguided attempt to depict Dinkins as a crime fighter.(He allowed rioting over Rodny King to continue for 3 days in NY City) Some crime fighter.
Just imagine what destruction he will cause to NY City.
Stick a cob in it Yankee.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17342 Jan 9, 2014
Texas Ranger wrote:
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Stick a cob in it Yankee.
Connecticut sucks too. Bunch of Prog retards.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17343 Jan 9, 2014
You Prog A-holes want this regime in charge of our health care?.

That’s rich: Poverty level under Obama breaks 50-year record

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/...
TV MAN

United States

#17344 Jan 14, 2014
Bruser wrote:
The goings on up in stupidville New York City:
More NY city council idiotic actions:
The Liberal Mayors of New York City have done every idiotic thing they have to disrupt harmony in the City.
From Bloomberg, Mayor Dinkins, the only good Mayor was Mayor Giuliani. Just seen, Is New York City Mayoral Candidate Bill de Blasio the New Dinkins ??????
www.thedailybeast.com/.../is-new-york-city-ma ... ;
Sep 5, 2013 - Fred Siegel on mayoral candidate Bill de Blasio's misguided attempt to depict Dinkins as a crime fighter.(He allowed rioting over Rodny King to continue for 3 days in NY City) Some crime fighter.
Just imagine what destruction he will cause to NY City.
Stop complaining and do something about it. It's easy to whine. If your results were better you wouldn't act this way. You act like a loser. Get off your back side and figure it out.
TV MAN

United States

#17345 Jan 14, 2014
Bruser wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL Defiant1 he says you have no defense, and yet look at his post number 17333, when he answers my documented post and has answer but to say "yawn and rant", Ha ha ha, and the
Teapot calling the kettle....... Burnt out by the TV he watches and alcohol consumption.
No, not the tea pot calling the kettle. It's all about playing the game and not whining. By playing the game your results are much better. You're to busy making excuses for your misery. Get a life or go back to your bunker.
TV MAN

United States

#17346 Jan 14, 2014
Defiant1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Reality is what you worthless DemoRat parasites do to everyone's standard of living with your rotten get rich quick schemes marketed as altruism. This country is finished thanks to you and your ilk. The global elite are only using you fools. Just wait until the bottom of the economy falls out. You morons will find out just how smart you really are.
What you're trying to say is you're not good at Capitalism. That requires brains. It requires a plan, and you don't have one. You think whining will solve your problems. Why? It's the lazy man's way.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17347 Jan 14, 2014
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>What you're trying to say is you're not good at Capitalism. That requires brains. It requires a plan, and you don't have one. You think whining will solve your problems. Why? It's the lazy man's way.
Let's see. This country is 16 trillion dollars in debt with the Federal Reserve banking cartel pumping at least 1.5 billion dollars of worthless money into the system. 50 percent of the population depends on government handouts. We have a so-called "healthcare law" bankrupting Americans even more.

When the bottom of this false economy finally falls out, we are sending all of the freetards to your house. You and your ilk created the problem. YOU fix it. Also, 5 Trillion dollars of debt belongs to the Chinese who will be highly pissed at losing their money with an economic collapse. You trying fixing that too, moron.

You can believe that some of us do have a plan. It's called stand back while you Democrap idiots drown in the mess that you created.

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