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Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17107 Jan 3, 2013
LOLOL

Fleabaggers are so uninformed and gullible.

“I don't believe in mathematics”

Since: Aug 08

De Leon, TX

#17108 Jan 4, 2013
Deviant is afraid of the Death Panels. That's why the UN will have to pry his squirrel gun from his cold, dead hands.

Run, Deviant, Run!
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17109 Jan 4, 2013
Hezekiah wrote:
Deviant is afraid of the Death Panels. That's why the UN will have to pry his squirrel gun from his cold, dead hands.
Run, Deviant, Run!
January 4th, 2012
The Nazi roots of U.S.
gun-control laws (plus).

http://jpfo.org/alerts2013/alert20130104.htm

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#17111 Jan 4, 2013
STOP Congressional Liberals with this:

Contact your county sheriff :

COUNTY SHERIFFS CAN BLOCK FEDERAL GUN LAWS:
President Obama has given his comic sidekick the task of pushing gun control measures through Congress. Democrats and some liberal Republicans are calling for more gun control after the tragic shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Some state and municipal politicians, like the #1 anti-gun person in the nation – New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, are also calling for more control.
But did you know that no matter what gun control laws are passed by the federal government, they can only be enforced in your area if your county sheriff allows them to be.
. This was established from the time of the Founding Fathers and upheld by the US Supreme Court in the 1997 case of Printz v. United States.
The case involved new federal regulations involved with the Brady Bill and gun control. FBI agents went around to the various county sheriffs and demanded that they follow the new federal guidelines. Then Graham County (AZ) Sheriff Richard Mack and several others saw the Brady Bill as being unconstitutional and refused to impose the new federal guidelines. Part of their defense was that the county sheriff was the supreme law enforcement officer over their county and that the federal government could not supersede their legal authority.
In the court’s decision, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote:
“... The great innovation of this design was that ‘our citizens would have two political capacities, one state and one federal, each protected from incursion by the other’”–“a legal system unprecedented in form and design, establishing two orders of government, each with its own direct relationship, its own privity, its own set of mutual rights and obligations to the people who sustain it and are governed by it.”(P.920)
Justice Scalia then quoted the man considered to be the Father of the US Constitution, President James Madison, when he wrote in the decision:
“[T]he local or municipal authorities form distinct and independent portions of the supremacy, no more subject, within their respective spheres, to the general authority than the general authority is subject to them, within its own sphere.” The Federalist, No. 39 at 245.
Scalia then referred to Gregory, 501 US at 458 when he wrote:
“This separation of the two spheres is one of the Constitution’s structural protections of liberty:‘Just as the separation and independence of the coordinate branches of the Federal Government serve to prevent the accumulation of excessive power in any one branch, a healthy balance of power between the States and the Federal Government will reduce the risk of tyranny and abuse from either front.’...”
Hence a double security arises to the rights of the people. The different governments will control each other, at the same time that each will be controlled by itself.”(P. 922).
In other words, the county sheriff is the highest governmental authority in his county and he does not have to bow to the tyranny of the federal government if he deems such actions to be unconstitutional or unlawful. In essence, the county sheriff has more legal authority within his county than the governor or the state or even the president of the United States.
Today, former Sheriff Richard Mack works with a number of county sheriffs throughout the county, helping them understand the extent of their authority and how they can legally defy the federal government. I would highly recommend that you contact your county sheriff and see if he/she is aware of their powers and duties. If not, get them in contact with Mack and urge your county sheriff to stand up against upcoming unconstitutional gun laws that the liberals are going to try to impose on us.

CLICK ON THE LINK:http://rightmarch.com/201 3/01/county-sheriffs-can-block -federal-gun-con
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17112 Jan 5, 2013
Bruser wrote:
STOP Congressional Liberals with this:
Contact your county sheriff :
COUNTY SHERIFFS CAN BLOCK FEDERAL GUN LAWS:
President Obama has given his comic sidekick the task of pushing gun control measures through Congress. Democrats and some liberal Republicans are calling for more gun control after the tragic shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Some state and municipal politicians, like the #1 anti-gun person in the nation – New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, are also calling for more control.
But did you know that no matter what gun control laws are passed by the federal government, they can only be enforced in your area if your county sheriff allows them to be.
. This was established from the time of the Founding Fathers and upheld by the US Supreme Court in the 1997 case of Printz v. United States.
The case involved new federal regulations involved with the Brady Bill and gun control. FBI agents went around to the various county sheriffs and demanded that they follow the new federal guidelines. Then Graham County (AZ) Sheriff Richard Mack and several others saw the Brady Bill as being unconstitutional and refused to impose the new federal guidelines. Part of their defense was that the county sheriff was the supreme law enforcement officer over their county and that the federal government could not supersede their legal authority.
In the court’s decision, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote:
“... The great innovation of this design was that ‘our citizens would have two political capacities, one state and one federal, each protected from incursion by the other’”–“a legal system unprecedented in form and design, establishing two orders of government, each with its own direct relationship, its own privity, its own set of mutual rights and obligations to the people who sustain it and are governed by it.”(P.920)
Justice Scalia then quoted the man considered to be the Father of the US Constitution, President James Madison, when he wrote in the decision:
“[T]he local or municipal authorities form distinct and independent portions of the supremacy, no more subject, within their respective spheres, to the general authority than the general authority is subject to them, within its own sphere.” The Federalist, No. 39 at 245.
Scalia then referred to Gregory, 501 US at 458 when he wrote:
“This separation of the two spheres is one of the Constitution’s structural protections of liberty:‘Just as the separation and independence of the coordinate branches of the Federal Government serve to prevent the accumulation of excessive power in any one branch, a healthy balance of power between the States and the Federal Government will reduce the risk of tyranny and abuse from either front.’...”
Hence a double security arises to the rights of the people. The different governments will control each other, at the same time that each will be controlled by itself.”(P. 922).
In other words, the county sheriff is the highest governmental authority in his county and he does not have to bow to the tyranny of the federal government if he deems such actions to be unconstitutional or unlawful. In essence, the county sheriff has more legal authority within his county than the governor or the state or even the president of the United States.
Today, former Sheriff Richard Mack works with a number of county sheriffs throughout the county, helping them understand the extent of their authority and how they can legally defy the federal government. I would highly recommend that you contact your county sheriff and see if he/she is aware of their powers and duties. If not, get them in contact with Mack and urge your county sheriff to stand up against upcoming unconstitutional gun laws that the liberals are going to try to impose on us.
CLICK ON THE LINK:http://rightmarch.com/201 3/01/county-sheriffs-can-block -federal-gun-con
Gun control is NOT about Guns...it's about Control.
Smokin Joe

Central Islip, NY

#17113 Jan 5, 2013
Hezekiah wrote:
Deviant is afraid of the Death Panels. That's why the UN will have to pry his squirrel gun from his cold, dead hands.
Run, Deviant, Run!
LOL, Run, Deviant, Run!

http://movieclips.com/eyji-forrest-gump-movie...
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17114 Jan 6, 2013
Here you go, you stupid Obama sheep. Oh, I forgot. Obama sheep are the welfare trash and takers in this society. Doesn't matter to you.

Health Insurers Raise Some Rates by Double Digits

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/business/de... ;

“I don't believe in mathematics”

Since: Aug 08

Gorman, TX

#17115 Jan 6, 2013
I wish we could go back to before Obamacare when health insurance companies hardly ever raised rates.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17116 Jan 7, 2013
Hezekiah wrote:
I wish we could go back to before Obamacare when health insurance companies hardly ever raised rates.
Sure they raised rates before. But, now thanks to CommieCare, they can price gouge.

“I don't believe in mathematics”

Since: Aug 08

Gorman, TX

#17117 Jan 7, 2013
They'e required to spend 80% on actual health care. They had to issue refunds a while ago. You're very misinformed about Obamacare.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17121 Jan 11, 2013
Hezekiah wrote:
They'e required to spend 80% on actual health care. They had to issue refunds a while ago. You're very misinformed about Obamacare.
So I'm misinformed by my insurance company when they raise my premiums?. Hell, the remaining 20% should be enough to keep the parasites happy.

“I don't believe in mathematics”

Since: Aug 08

Gorman, TX

#17122 Jan 12, 2013
The insurance companies have to justify their request for a rate increase from their state insurance boards. They cite Obamacare requirements as the reason for less than 2% of the increase.

Rising health care costs have been the reason for the rate increases that have been going on for decades. Of course we're being gouged. It's called capitalism. The only cure for that is socialized medicine.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#17124 Jan 14, 2013
Hezekiah wrote:
The insurance companies have to justify It's called capitalism. The only cure for that is socialized medicine.
Wrong pal, the cure is for the government to get their political hands out of the healthcare business, and stop telling medicare recipients what company to use for their healthcare. If the government would allow Capitalism to do its work, and allow free
competition in the health industry, our health care costs would drop like a rock, saving billions of dollars for Medicare recipients. I was a business agent for one of the largest unions in the world for 25 years. When I was approached by members of an insurance company that they wanted to have a Union in their work place, and was ready to sign the union cards for a ballot to be taken by the NLRB. As I proceeded to organize them, I was told by my Union Local President, to back off and stop what I was doing.
Any guess why???
Socialized medicine you say? Try to get a doctors appointment in England, or Canada. England has the NHS that runs their medical program, and on their webiste they have posted that they had euthanized 130,000 people . Read this If you are capable:

Shock: British NHS Euthanizes 130,000 Elderly Patients Annually

by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | Share

Shocking news from England today has top NHS officials indicating doctors acting in the UK government-run health program annually kill as many as 130,000 patients prematurely because of overcrowding at hospitals, medical clinics and nursing homes.

Professor Patrick Pullicino indicated doctors are turning to a so-called “death pathway” protocol that is essentially active euthanasia of patients, according to a London Daily Mail news report. Pullicino, a consultant neurologist for East Kent Hospitals and Professor of Clinical Neurosciences at the University of Kent, made his remarks in a speech before the Royal Society of Medicine in London.

He claimed there was often a lack of clear evidence for initiating the Liverpool Care Pathway, a method of looking after terminally ill patients that is used in hospitals across the country. It is designed to come into force when doctors believe it is impossible for a patient to recover and death is imminent.

It can include withdrawal of treatment – including the provision of water and nourishment by tube – and on average brings a patient to death in 33 hours. There are around 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in hospital or under NHS care. Around 29 per cent – 130,000 – are of patients who were on the LCP.

Professor Pullicino claimed that far too often elderly patients who could live longer are placed on the LCP and it had now become an ‘assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway’. He cited ‘pressure on beds and difficulty with nursing confused or difficult-to-manage elderly patients’ as factors.

CAN YOU SAY "COMING TO AMERICA???"

“The continuing collapse of the NHS is not only an indictment of single payer health care: It is a warning to the U.S. about centralized control of health care,” he said.“The continuing collapse of the NHS is not only an indictment of single payer health care: It is a warning to the U.S. about centralized control of health care.”

“Adding injury to injury, how easy it is for the bureaucrats to lard on the goodies on the private insurance companies’ dimes–as is already happening. What makes us think that a too strained and bureaucratically suffocated private sector won’t eventually end up in a collapse–further harming the economy–and unable to provide for patients properly?” he said.“Once that happens (with malice aforethought?) Obamacarian class warriors will give a war whoop of triumph for having destroyed the dreaded private sector–and force us into single payer. See,“NHS Meltdown” posts. Lose. Lose. Lose.”
Voice of Reason

Massapequa, NY

#17125 Jan 14, 2013
Wrong pal, the cure is for the government to get their political hands out of the healthcare business, and stop telling medicare recipients what company to use for their healthcare. If the government would allow Capitalism to do its work, and allow free
competition in the health industry, our health care costs would drop like a rock, saving billions of dollars for Medicare recipients. I was a business agent for one of the largest unions in the world for 25 years. When I was approached by members of an insurance company that they wanted to have a Union in their work place, and was ready to sign the union cards for a ballot to be taken by the NLRB. As I proceeded to organize them, I was told by my Union Local President, to back off and stop what I was doing.
Any guess why???
Socialized medicine you say? Try to get a doctors appointment in England, or Canada. England has the NHS that runs their medical program, and on their webiste they have posted that they had euthanized 130,000 people . Read this If you are capable:

Shock: British NHS Euthanizes 130,000 Elderly Patients Annually

by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | Share

Shocking news from England today has top NHS officials indicating doctors acting in the UK government-run health program annually kill as many as 130,000 patients prematurely because of overcrowding at hospitals, medical clinics and nursing homes.

Professor Patrick Pullicino indicated doctors are turning to a so-called “death pathway” protocol that is essentially active euthanasia of patients, according to a London Daily Mail news report. Pullicino, a consultant neurologist for East Kent Hospitals and Professor of Clinical Neurosciences at the University of Kent, made his remarks in a speech before the Royal Society of Medicine in London.

He claimed there was often a lack of clear evidence for initiating the Liverpool Care Pathway, a method of looking after terminally ill patients that is used in hospitals across the country. It is designed to come into force when doctors believe it is impossible for a patient to recover and death is imminent.

It can include withdrawal of treatment – including the provision of water and nourishment by tube – and on average brings a patient to death in 33 hours. There are around 450,000 deaths in Britain each year of people who are in hospital or under NHS care. Around 29 per cent – 130,000 – are of patients who were on the LCP.

Professor Pullicino claimed that far too often elderly patients who could live longer are placed on the LCP and it had now become an ‘assisted death pathway rather than a care pathway’. He cited ‘pressure on beds and difficulty with nursing confused or difficult-to-manage elderly patients’ as factors.

CAN YOU SAY "COMING TO AMERICA???"

“The continuing collapse of the NHS is not only an indictment of single payer health care: It is a warning to the U.S. about centralized control of health care,” he said.“The continuing collapse of the NHS is not only an indictment of single payer health care: It is a warning to the U.S. about centralized control of health care.”

“Adding injury to injury, how easy it is for the bureaucrats to lard on the goodies on the private insurance companies’ dimes–as is already happening. What makes us think that a too strained and bureaucratically suffocated private sector won’t eventually end up in a collapse–further harming the economy–and unable to provide for patients properly?” he said.“Once that happens (with malice aforethought?) Obamacarian class warriors will give a war whoop of triumph for having destroyed the dreaded private sector–and force us into single payer. See,“NHS Meltdown” posts. Lose. Lose. Lose.”

“I don't believe in mathematics”

Since: Aug 08

Eastland, TX

#17126 Jan 14, 2013
Bullshit.

It's possible to compare health care systems of different countries. Socialized systems provide other industrialized countries with better outcomes for much less cost.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17127 Jan 14, 2013
Hezekiah wrote:
Bullshit.
It's possible to compare health care systems of different countries. Socialized systems provide other industrialized countries with better outcomes for much less cost.
Nothing good will ever happen with socialized programs of any kind in this country. Too many greedy crooks and liars are in charge.
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#17128 Jan 15, 2013
The only medical care that we will all need after Obummer is done with this country is a proctologist.

“I don't believe in mathematics”

Since: Aug 08

De Leon, TX

#17129 Jan 15, 2013
You don't know anything about Obamacare.

If we didn't have health care reform, you would criticize the insurance companies for screwing you.
Apollo epiphany Use Digit

Chengdu, China

#17130 Jan 15, 2013




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----------







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Chengdu, China

#17131 Jan 15, 2013


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by Chinese poets fengwenshu, 2013,1,10,13,52,



I heard that one
Like snow white dove,

Like a girl
A sweet kiss,

From light
Thorn eyes
A golden ball
Flew
A new green Lyre, lyre,

Smiling red Apollo
Outflow of hot tears in the eyes,

Red Apollo
Happy quiver left hand
Holding the light
Thorn eye golden goal,
The right hand that new green lyre,

Like the fragrance of a beautiful young wheat
New green lyre,





I heard that one
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Like snow white dove,

Like a girl
A sweet kiss,

From light
Thorn eyes
A golden ball
Flew
A new green Lyre, lyre,

Smiling red Apollo
Outflow of hot tears in the eyes,

Red Apollo
Happy quiver left hand
Holding the light
Thorn eye golden goal,
The right hand that new green lyre,

Like the fragrance of a beautiful young wheat
New green lyre,

I heard that one
As white as snow, smooth feathers pigeon,

Was standing on that new green lyre, so sweet, beautiful, cool singing ----------
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You can see that night goddess Leto Leto, and the son of Zeus, red Apollo,

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Beautiful song,
Warms our hearts in red Apollo
In the distant East, Asia apparitions it?



This pigeon is a righteous man, Noah that pigeon,
Has brought back the scent of green olive branch that the dove,

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Like snow white dove,

Like a girl
A sweet kiss,

From light
Thorn eyes
A golden ball
Flew
A new green Lyre, lyre,

Smiling red Apollo
Outflow of hot tears in the eyes,

Red Apollo
Happy quiver left hand
Holding the light
Thorn eye golden goal,
The right hand that new green lyre,

Like the fragrance of a beautiful young wheat
New green lyre,



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As white as snow, pigeon feathers smooth,

Standing on the new green lyre,
So sweet, beautiful, cool songs,
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I say this?

Is your soul, attached to the,
Lived in
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Help Li Shanyu,

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If you don't agree, you cry, I admire the great Appollo ah,
Do you agree
I said this?





I agree, I agree, I agree,
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My soul, attached,
Lived in the body of the Chinese female doctor Lishan Yu

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Is my soul,attached,
Lived in the body of the Chinese female doctor Lishan Yu,

Helps the Lishan Yu,
To created a digital treatment of new medical technology,
Great new scientific technology,

Like a beautiful purple butterfly attached
Live in a beautiful blue moon

That red Apollo,
Such a sweet, beautiful, cool singing,

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