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#17059
Dec 20, 2012
 
Gun Control: Myths and Realities
By
David Lampo

Think you know the facts about gun control? If your only source of information is the mainstream media, what you think you know may not be correct. Take the quiz below and test your knowledge.

1. Thousands of children die annually in gun accidents.

False. Gun accidents involving children are actually at record lows

2. Gun shows are responsible for a large number of firearms falling into the hands of criminals.

False. Contrary to claims, there is no “gun show loophole.” All commercial arms dealers at gun shows must run background checks. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, at most 2 percent of guns used by criminals are purchased at gun shows, and most of those were purchased legally by people who passed background checks.

3. The tragedy at Columbine High School a year ago illustrates the deficiencies of current gun control laws.

False. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold violated close to 20 firearms laws in amassing their cache of weapons. so it seems rather dubious to argue that additional laws might have prevented this tragedy. The two shotguns and rifle used by Harris and Klebold were purchased by a girlfriend who would have passed a background check, and the TEC-9 handgun used by them was already illegal.

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4. States that allow registered citizens to carry concealed weapons have lower crime rates than those that don’t.

True. The 31 states that have “shall issue” laws allowing private citizens to carry concealed weapons have, on average, a 24 percent lower violent crime rate, a 19 percent lower murder rate and a 39 percent lower robbery rate than states that forbid concealed weapons. In fact, the nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all right-to-carry states. Remarkably, guns are used for self-defense more than 2 million times a year, three to five times the estimated number of violent crimes committed with guns.

5. Waiting periods lower crime rates.

False. Numerous studies have been conducted on the effects of waiting periods, both before and after the federal Brady bill was passed in 1993. Those studies consistently show that there is no correlation between waiting periods and murder or robbery rates. Florida State University professor Gary Kleck analyzed data from every U.S. city with a population over 100,000 and found that waiting periods had no statistically significant effect. Even University of Maryland anti-gun researcher David McDowell found that “waiting periods have no influence on either gun homicides or gun suicides.”

6. Lower murder rates in foreign countries prove that gun control works.

False. This is one of the favorite arguments of gun control proponents, and yet the facts show that there is simply no correlation between gun control laws and murder or suicide rates across a wide spectrum of nations and cultures. In Israel and Switzerland, for example, a license to possess guns is available on demand to every law-abiding adult, and guns are easily obtainable in both nations. Both countries also allow widespread carrying of concealed firearms, and yet, admits Dr. Arthur Kellerman, one of the foremost medical advocates of gun control, Switzerland and Israel “have rates of homicide that are low despite rates of home firearm ownership that are at least as high as those in the United States.” A comparison of crime rates within Europe reveals no correlation between access to guns and crime.

Connecticut shooting:
The Mother of that man was more to blame than anyone else, she purchased the guns after her son was turned down.

An intelligent answer would be to ban the sale of guns to anyone that has a person n their home that is on medication for mental health problems.

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Since: Aug 08

De Leon, TX

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#17060
Dec 20, 2012
 
More guns makes us all safer...
and trickle down economics makes us all wealthier.
LOLOL
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

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#17061
Dec 20, 2012
 
Hezekiah wrote:
More guns makes us all safer...
and trickle down economics makes us all wealthier.
LOLOL
In ObamaLand, we are now headed for mutual poverty. The only thing trickling down, is piss down your leg in anticipation of pure Socialism running this
country.

It's actually none of your damn business what law-abiding people own. You libtards want to disarm someone, go disarm the millions of ghetto rats that
have as much firepower as many law enforcement agencies.

While I personally don't own any high capacity semi-auto pistols or rifles, I don't see a problem with those that do.
Smokin Joe

Huntington Station, NY

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#17062
Dec 20, 2012
 
What Papa John and Darden Restaurants, Inc.(owner of Red Lobster and Olive Garden) are too stupid to realize is that if you advertise that you are going to cut your workers hours so that they won't have healthcare coverage, you are going to LOSE CUSTOMERS!!!

They are in the food service industry and they are announcing that their employees won't have healthcare coverage. And that means that their employees probably won't be able to afford to go to the doctor when they are sick, so they are more likely to get diseases that get worse even though they could have been cured with antibiotics or other proper medications covered by a healthcare plan.

So Papa John and Darden are letting us, their potential customers, know that their employees are more likely to be spreading contagious diseases as they prepare and serve our food. Thanks for the warning. I guess I won't be going to your restaurants anymore. At least until you change your policy so you won't have sicker servers/delivery personnel and cooks than your competitors.

Personally, I'd gladly pay a few bucks extra to know that my server and the cook didn't infect my meal and that is true for anyone who understands the germ theory of disease leaving only the incredibly stupid to continue to frequent these restaurants!
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#17063
Dec 20, 2012
 
Smokin Joe wrote:
What Papa John and Darden Restaurants, Inc.(owner of Red Lobster and Olive Garden) are too stupid to realize is that if you advertise that you are going to cut your workers hours so that they won't have healthcare coverage, you are going to LOSE CUSTOMERS!!!
They are in the food service industry and they are announcing that their employees won't have healthcare coverage. And that means that their employees probably won't be able to afford to go to the doctor when they are sick, so they are more likely to get diseases that get worse even though they could have been cured with antibiotics or other proper medications covered by a healthcare plan.
So Papa John and Darden are letting us, their potential customers, know that their employees are more likely to be spreading contagious diseases as they prepare and serve our food. Thanks for the warning. I guess I won't be going to your restaurants anymore. At least until you change your policy so you won't have sicker servers/delivery personnel and cooks than your competitors.
Personally, I'd gladly pay a few bucks extra to know that my server and the cook didn't infect my meal and that is true for anyone who understands the germ theory of disease leaving only the incredibly stupid to continue to frequent these restaurants!
Vomit Garden and Papa Johns sucks anyway.

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#17064
Dec 20, 2012
 
Defiant1 wrote:
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In ObamaLand, we are now headed for mutual poverty. The only thing trickling down, is piss down your leg in anticipation of pure Socialism running this
country.
It's actually none of your damn business what law-abiding people own. You libtards want to disarm someone, go disarm the millions of ghetto rats that
have as much firepower as many law enforcement agencies.
While I personally don't own any high capacity semi-auto pistols or rifles, I don't see a problem with those that do.
I can't afford a surface-to-air missile, but I could buy a grenade launcher. And I would like to have a canister of sarin gas in case I run across a Teabagger rally. But my constitutional rights are violated by making this a crime.
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#17065
Dec 21, 2012
 
Hezekiah wrote:
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I can't afford a surface-to-air missile, but I could buy a grenade launcher. And I would like to have a canister of sarin gas in case I run across a Teabagger rally. But my constitutional rights are violated by making this a crime.
Ownership isn't a crime. Killing people that you don't agree with is a crime.
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#17066
Dec 21, 2012
 
We don't need gun control. We need liberal control. It's a mental illness.

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#17067
Dec 22, 2012
 
Defiant1 wrote:
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Ownership isn't a crime. Killing people that you don't agree with is a crime.
War is a crime?
TheTuth

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#17068
Dec 22, 2012
 
Hezekiah wrote:
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War is a crime?
Apparently not. YOUR god Obama approves of it.
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#17069
Dec 22, 2012
 
Defiant1 wrote:
We don't need gun control. We need liberal control. It's a mental illness.
Ya 100 round clips< Aurora and the 6 other incidents in the past five years all legally purchased. The second was written for musket technology. Nukes are arms too, let me get one of those. You are a fool D1. 10 shots in any gun is plenty, okay not fore someone as blind as you.
ruk

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#17070
Dec 22, 2012
 
Defiant1 wrote:
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Ownership isn't a crime. Killing people that you don't agree with is a crime.
A society that allows for military style weapons in the hands of the public as children are killed with them, a crime. Reagan was on board with a ban om such weapons and pressured congress to pass it, and they did. These great conservatives have great ideas and ideology until Obama signs on to it. You fools have no brain of use to society, inbred I suppose. It is understandable your view on abortion, without incest your bloodline would cease to exist.
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#17071
Dec 22, 2012
 
Lets just be factual here. Republikklans in congress can’t come to the middle because the T drinkers will knock them off in the primaries. Look at Lugar in Indiana, a perfect example. Yet Republikkklans lost that seat and at least 2 others because of the parties shrinking relevance. Taxes are going up on every one in January, until America sees the light, the Republikkklans will cave. In 2014 they are out just like they lost seats in 2012 and the Romney/Ryan lost their home states and America in general. You have no Reagan Republicans you have lost your way.
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#17072
Dec 25, 2012
 
ruk wrote:
<quoted text>A society that allows for military style weapons in the hands of the public as children are killed with them, a crime. Reagan was on board with a ban om such weapons and pressured congress to pass it, and they did. These great conservatives have great ideas and ideology until Obama signs on to it. You fools have no brain of use to society, inbred I suppose. It is understandable your view on abortion, without incest your bloodline would cease to exist.
I hope Saint Obama put coal in your stocking for Xmas, you stupid liberal troll.

Just who the hell do you worthless f@ckwits think you are to tell everyone what they can own and can do?. It's also none of your Gawd
Dam business what a fellow Americans finances are, either. All of you worthless libtards can go straight to hell, where you belong.
yooflungpoo

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#17073
Dec 25, 2012
 
damn Deviant1... you make Tarzan look like a Rhodes Scholar....
Defiant1

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#17075
Dec 26, 2012
 
yooflungpoo wrote:
damn Deviant1... you make Tarzan look like a Rhodes Scholar....
Send some of you Obamabots to Common Sense 101 and a mini course on what it means to be a real American, I just might post messages that sound a lot more edumacated to suit you.

Ruk/Suk is nothing more than a government loving ignorant troll.
Mike

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#17076
Dec 27, 2012
 
cannot be denied health care, no lifetime limits
Defiant1

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#17078
Dec 28, 2012
 
Mike wrote:
cannot be denied health care, no lifetime limits
You can use ObamaCare only when you're "shovel ready". LOL

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#17081
Dec 30, 2012
 
Caution, Liberal at work>
Dianne Feinstein Ms Gun control extraordinaire the phony that wants to un-arm every American that wants to be able to protect their property and family, and admits she was trained and carries a concealed weapon, so do as I say, not as I do.
Listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

How about every person that was ever mugged being allowed to carry a concealed weapon because they were victims before? Oh no she doesn't want that.
A real phony
Defiant1

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#17082
Dec 30, 2012
 
Bruser wrote:
Caution, Liberal at work>
Dianne Feinstein Ms Gun control extraordinaire the phony that wants to un-arm every American that wants to be able to protect their property and family, and admits she was trained and carries a concealed weapon, so do as I say, not as I do.
Listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
How about every person that was ever mugged being allowed to carry a concealed weapon because they were victims before? Oh no she doesn't want that.
A real phony
It's "do as I say, not as I do" in libtard world. Time to tell them all to go piss up a rope.

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