Health Care Debate - Columbus, OH

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TV MAN

United States

#397 Aug 6, 2011
Shot gun wrote:
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I would support that fully.
Nobody had a choice in where or even IF they were born, so there is no logical ethic that beholds you to another. If you cannot survive by your own devices, and cannot find someone WILLING to help you, tough!
I agree. Now that wasn't difficult was it? However, remember takers use government to survive, and that's their choice. What is a man to do, take away their right to vote? Ther goes freedom of choice. Looks like your back to square one.
Shot gun

Chillicothe, OH

#398 Aug 6, 2011
I'm of the opinion that if you are living off of others, you should give up your liberty, except the liberty to stop living off of others.
TV MAN

United States

#399 Aug 6, 2011
Shot gun wrote:
I'm of the opinion that if you are living off of others, you should give up your liberty, except the liberty to stop living off of others.
Like I said, back to square one. However, I like your style. Takers should lose their right to vote. After that we're all on our own. If the taker wins, it's our fault.
TV MAN

Ontario, CA

#400 Aug 9, 2011
Gotta wonder why I'm such an Obama fan boy.
Gadsden

United States

#403 Nov 4, 2011
Not into more Gov't control.
TV MAN

United States

#404 Nov 8, 2011
TV MAN wrote:
Gotta wonder why I'm such an Obama fan boy.
I'm not anybodys fan "FOOL".
20yrs in Banking

Columbus, OH

#405 Jan 4, 2012
We can pay for it, and we should. When you include the cost of Obama Care be sure to back out all the saved bankruptcies. Our debt is a result of real estate, national defense and SS not ObamaCare.
TV MAN

United States

#406 Jan 5, 2012
20yrs in Banking wrote:
We can pay for it, and we should. When you include the cost of Obama Care be sure to back out all the saved bankruptcies. Our debt is a result of real estate, national defense and SS not ObamaCare.
We need people who use it, and the people who will use it, to pay something. That's what the mandate is all about. It's not about will you use it, it's about when. Pay up, or shut up. Get insurance, no excuse.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#407 Jan 5, 2012
WND EXCLUSIVE
Court: Obama must be ‘constitutionally’ eligible
Judge denies president's motion to dismiss challenge to 2012 candidacy
For the first time in dozens of court cases challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president, a judge has ruled that Obama must, in order to be a candidate on the Georgia ballot for president in 2012, meet the constitutional demands for candidates for the office.
A hearing has been scheduled later this month for evidence on the issue that has plagued Obama and his presidency since long before he took office. At issue is the constitutional requirement that a president be a “natural-born citizen.” Some allege he was not born in the U.S. as he has claimed and, therefore, is not eligible.
Others, including top constitutional expert Herb Titus, contend that the term “natural-born citizen,” which is not defined in the Constitution, would have been understood when the document was written to mean the offspring of two U.S. citizens. That argument is supported by a 19th-century U.S. Supreme Court decision
Under that standard, Obama could not qualify, because his father, as identified on the “Certificate of Live Birth” image released by the White House, was a foreign national who came from Kenya to study in the U.S. and never was a citizen.
The ruling came today from Judge Michael M. Malihi of the Georgia state Office of State Administrative Hearings.
In Georgia, a state law requires “every candidate for federal” office who is certified by the state executive committees of a political party or who files a notice of candidacy “shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.”
State law also grants the secretary of state and any “elector who is eligible to vote for a candidate” in the state the authority to raise a challenge to a candidate’s qualifications, the judge determined.
While Obama’s attorney, Michael Jablonski, had argued that the requirements didn’t apply to candidates for a presidential primary, the judge said that isn’t how he reads state law.
“Statutory provisions must be read as they are written, and this court finds that the cases cited by [Obama] are not controlling. When the court construes a constitutional or statutory provision, the ‘first step … is to examine the plain statutory language,” the judge wrote.“Section 21-2-1(a) states that ‘every candidate for federal and state office’ must meet the qualifications for holding that particular office, and this court has seen no case law limiting this provision, nor found any language that contains an exception for the office of president or stating that the provision does not apply to the presidential preference primary.”
The decision from Malihi came as a result of a series of complaints that were consolidated by the court. They were brought against Obama’s inclusion on the 2012 election primary ballot by David Farrar, Leah Lax, Cody Judy, Thomas Malaren and Laurie Roth, represented by attorney Orly Taitz; David Weldon represented by attorney Van R. Irion of Liberty Legal Foundation; and Carl Swensson and Kevin Richard Powell, represented by J. Mark Hatfield.
TV MAN

United States

#408 Jan 6, 2012
save your souls wrote:
WND EXCLUSIVE
Court: Obama must be ‘constitutionally’ eligible
Judge denies president's motion to dismiss challenge to 2012 candidacy
For the first time in dozens of court cases challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president, a judge has ruled that Obama must, in order to be a candidate on the Georgia ballot for president in 2012, meet the constitutional demands for candidates for the office.
A hearing has been scheduled later this month for evidence on the issue that has plagued Obama and his presidency since long before he took office. At issue is the constitutional requirement that a president be a “natural-born citizen.” Some allege he was not born in the U.S. as he has claimed and, therefore, is not eligible.
Others, including top constitutional expert Herb Titus, contend that the term “natural-born citizen,” which is not defined in the Constitution, would have been understood when the document was written to mean the offspring of two U.S. citizens. That argument is supported by a 19th-century U.S. Supreme Court decision
Under that standard, Obama could not qualify, because his father, as identified on the “Certificate of Live Birth” image released by the White House, was a foreign national who came from Kenya to study in the U.S. and never was a citizen.
The ruling came today from Judge Michael M. Malihi of the Georgia state Office of State Administrative Hearings.
In Georgia, a state law requires “every candidate for federal” office who is certified by the state executive committees of a political party or who files a notice of candidacy “shall meet the constitutional and statutory qualifications for holding the office being sought.”
State law also grants the secretary of state and any “elector who is eligible to vote for a candidate” in the state the authority to raise a challenge to a candidate’s qualifications, the judge determined.
While Obama’s attorney, Michael Jablonski, had argued that the requirements didn’t apply to candidates for a presidential primary, the judge said that isn’t how he reads state law.
“Statutory provisions must be read as they are written, and this court finds that the cases cited by [Obama] are not controlling. When the court construes a constitutional or statutory provision, the ‘first step … is to examine the plain statutory language,” the judge wrote.“Section 21-2-1(a) states that ‘every candidate for federal and state office’ must meet the qualifications for holding that particular office, and this court has seen no case law limiting this provision, nor found any language that contains an exception for the office of president or stating that the provision does not apply to the presidential preference primary.”
The decision from Malihi came as a result of a series of complaints that were consolidated by the court. They were brought against Obama’s inclusion on the 2012 election primary ballot by David Farrar, Leah Lax, Cody Judy, Thomas Malaren and Laurie Roth, represented by attorney Orly Taitz; David Weldon represented by attorney Van R. Irion of Liberty Legal Foundation; and Carl Swensson and Kevin Richard Powell, represented by J. Mark Hatfield.
Yawning!!!!!
Doug

Montréal, Canada

#411 Feb 12, 2012
I agree that something needs to be done. And I think the current system is garbage but it could and would be worse w/ Omoron care. Oblama lama is just not the man for the job nor are his incompetent minions. It is a PATHETIC state of affairs that a bunch of self-interested politicians have such callous disregard for those that they are supposed to serve...
Spooktackular

Cleveland, OH

#412 Feb 12, 2012
The government should not be mandating the purchase of anything from a private company(s)
TV MAN

United States

#413 Feb 13, 2012
Spooktackular wrote:
The government should not be mandating the purchase of anything from a private company(s)
How about mandating "no fraud".
Angry Old and White

Delaware, OH

#415 Apr 5, 2012
Repeal Obama Deathcare.
TV MAN

United States

#416 Apr 13, 2012
Angry Old and White wrote:
Repeal Obama Deathcare.
What's the Republicans plan to replace it. If it allows insurance companys to only insure healthy people they've accomplished nothing. However they don't have a plan, only hopes and dreams and the free market. Good luck.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#418 May 3, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>What's the Republicans plan to replace it. If it allows insurance companys to only insure healthy people they've accomplished nothing. However they don't have a plan, only hopes and dreams and the free market. Good luck.
Had the Democraps not forced the bills through, and used the normal route of debates, and not paid off their own people like
Stupak, the bill would have stood as a bi-partisan bill and all would have agreed to it, as there were many points that were good.
Now we have a bill that most of the Democraps have never read, as it does not concern them because it does not impact their lives,
or their families. If you didn't have the healthcare coverage you have, because you had the money for it, you may not even be able to sit down and post anything, as you would have one foot in the grave right now. I do hope you will live a long life TVMAN, and will pray for you.
Everything with a kiss Benny
ru kidding

Mattoon, IL

#421 May 7, 2012
sweetbenny wrote:
<quoted text>
Had the Democraps not forced the bills through, and used the normal route of debates, and not paid off their own people like
Stupak, the bill would have stood as a bi-partisan bill and all would have agreed to it, as there were many points that were good.
Now we have a bill that most of the Democraps have never read, as it does not concern them because it does not impact their lives,
or their families. If you didn't have the healthcare coverage you have, because you had the money for it, you may not even be able to sit down and post anything, as you would have one foot in the grave right now. I do hope you will live a long life TVMAN, and will pray for you.
Everything with a kiss Benny
Whether reducing or increasing deficits, many of the reconciliation bills made major changes in policy. Health insurance portability (COBRA), nursing home standards, expanded Medicaid eligibility, increases in the earned income tax credit, welfare reform, the state Children's Health Insurance Program, major tax cuts and student aid reform were all enacted under reconciliation procedures. Health reform 2009 style would be the most ambitious use of reconciliation but it fits a pattern used over three decades by both parties to avoid the strictures of Senate filibusters.

To be sure, there is a price beyond the political one for using reconciliation. Elements in bills that are not strictly designed to have a budget impact can be removed on points of order, leaving comprehensive bills less than comprehensive. And the time frame for reconciliation bills is at most ten years, after which they expire unless explicitly renewed (the problem, of course, with the Bush tax cuts.)

http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2009/0420_b...
Wake up, educate your self.

“I just knew this would happen”

Since: Mar 10

Columbus, OH

#422 Jun 10, 2012
Does congress use the same health care. until they do don't force the rest to use substandard care
Maj Michael J Donahue

Centereach, NY

#425 Sep 26, 2014
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier and a DoD civilian who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

They died Sept. 16, in Kabul, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered from an enemy attack.

Killed were:

Maj. Michael J. Donahue, 41, of Columbus, Ohio, assigned to the Headquarters and Headquarters Battalion, XVIII Airborne Corps, Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

Stephen Byus, 39, of Reynoldsburg, Ohio, a member of the Defense Logistics Agency Land and Maritime in Columbus, Ohio, working as a supply specialist, and assigned to the Combined Security Transition Command Afghanistan while deployed.

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