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GraceLynn

Colorado Springs, CO

#175 Oct 11, 2011
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>Great, you should love Obama's health care plan. It's not socialism. It's run by insurance companies. You know free markets. Government only makes law.
How is everything up there in dreamland?
You must be a Zerobama lover and a demnut liberal.

BTW: Zero is the AFFIRMATIVE ACTION pres.
You do know what affirmative actions is don't toy?
It's hiring an unqualified person because of his/her race.
TV MAN

United States

#176 Oct 11, 2011
GraceLynn wrote:
<quoted text>
How is everything up there in dreamland?
You must be a Zerobama lover and a demnut liberal.
BTW: Zero is the AFFIRMATIVE ACTION pres.
You do know what affirmative actions is don't toy?
It's hiring an unqualified person because of his/her race.
Wrong, no liberal here. However, you may depend on hopes and dreams. I depend on results. Results don't lie. Affirmative action is not one of my choices, yet health care has nothing to do with affirmative action. It has everything to do with paying for your service. I believe no pay, no service. Yet, we are a moral society and would not allow anyone to die on the street. That's why we must all pay something. Getting sick is not voluntary, and owning insurance should not be either.
Margaret

Kalispell, MT

#177 Oct 19, 2011
Stupid idea
TV MAN

United States

#178 Oct 19, 2011
Margaret wrote:
Stupid idea
Why don't you explan?
P O Darrel L Enos

Hicksville, NY

#181 Aug 21, 2012
The Department of Defense announced today the deaths of two service members who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. 
           They died Aug. 17 while supporting combat operations in Farah province, Afghanistan. They were assigned to 3rd Marine Special Operations Battalion, Camp Lejeune, N.C. 
           Killed were: 
           Staff Sgt. Gregory T. Copes, 36, of Lynch Station, Va., and 
           Hospital Corpsman Petty Officer 1st Class Darrel L. Enos, 36, of Colorado Springs, Colo. 
R&D

Fountain, CO

#182 Aug 22, 2012
Any government run policy that dictates what people can or can not have at the expense of others doesn't work, it never has.
TV MAN

United States

#184 Sep 8, 2012
One Percenter wrote:
Everybody has a date with death,it's inevitable.If a man,woman or child is plaqued by health issues,it's nature's way of taking care of the issue.I don't want to support someone who will eventually die.It's futile to spend and spend when we all know the end result.
You support people everyday when you have health insurance. Should we get rid of insurance? How can you have a world worth living in, if one only cares about himself.
Bruser

Massapequa, NY

#185 Sep 14, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>The problem with America is stupidity. Let the problem solve itself?

Hey ,R&D. TV Man just has diarrhea of the mouth. He has no answer to this post, and never answered it:

I am opposed to HB 3200 for a number of reasons. To start with, it is estimated that a federal bureaucracy of more than 150,000 new employees will be required to administer HB3200. That is an unacceptable expansion of a government that is already too intrusive in our lives. If we are going to hire 150,000 new employees, let’s put them to work protecting our borders, fighting the massive drug problem and putting more law enforcement/firefighters out there.”

NOW, here comes the good stuff:”Other problems I have with this bill include:

Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. Italics mine.

Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).

Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.(How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors’ fees.

Page 272, section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient’s age.

Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an “end-of-life planning” seminar every five years.

Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.”

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on:“Finally, it is specifically stated this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick “fix” to make the plan financially sound for the future.”

Honorable David Kithil - Marble Falls, Texas

In addition, this bill has gross discriminatory points. It exempts Unions, and Congress from being forced into this "Death-care", and forces the rest of Americans to accept it.
"HEIL OBAMA,Nancy Pewlousy, and "Dirty Harry Reid" who's son fronts for ENN a Chinese Solar Panel Plant:
The son of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), Rory Reid, is the primary representative for ENN Energy Group, a Chinese energy company seeking to build a $5 billion solar panel plant on a 9,000-acre Clark County desert plot in Laughlin, Nevada.

ENN scored big when Clark County commissioners unanimously voted to sell the Chinese company the public land for just $4.5 million, despite the fact that it was appraised at $38.6 million.

Sen. Reid has been one of ENN’s biggest supporters, having recruited the company during a 2011 trip to China. According to Reuters, last month Sen. Reid tried to “pressure Nevada's largest power company, NV Energy, to sign up as ENN's first customer.”

Both Rory Reid and Harry Reid deny having ever discussed the $5 billion Chinese solar panel plant deal:

This isn’t the first time the Reids have come under fire for alleged cronyism. In 2003, allegations emerged that Nevada industries frequently lobbied Sen. Reid through his well-connected relatives.
Amy Burdsall

Houston, TX

#186 Sep 19, 2012
I'm on disability! After paying into the system for years. They put u on Medicare. Basically worthless insurance. There is only 1 psychiatrist in Colorado springs last I checked who took Medicare and 1 nurse practitioner. This is not acceptable healthcare!
ru kidding

Mattoon, IL

#187 Sep 20, 2012
Bruser wrote:
TV MAN wrote:
<quoted text>The problem with America is stupidity. Let the problem solve itself?
Hey ,R&D. TV Man just has diarrhea of the mouth. He has no answer to this post, and never answered it:
I am opposed to HB 3200 for a number of reasons. To start with, it is estimated that a federal bureaucracy of more than 150,000 new employees will be required to administer HB3200. That is an unacceptable expansion of a government that is already too intrusive in our lives. If we are going to hire 150,000 new employees, let’s put them to work protecting our borders, fighting the massive drug problem and putting more law enforcement/firefighters out there.”
NOW, here comes the good stuff:”Other problems I have with this bill include:
Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.
Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. Italics mine.
Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.(How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors’ fees.
Page 272, section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient’s age.
Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an “end-of-life planning” seminar every five years.
Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.”
HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on:“Finally, it is specifically stated this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick “fix” to make the plan financially sound for the future.”
Honorable David Kithil - Marble Falls, Texas
In addition, this bill has gross discriminatory points. It exempts Unions, and Congress from being forced into this "Death-care", and forces the rest of Americans to accept it.
"HEIL OBAMA,Nancy Pewlousy, and "Dirty Harry Reid" who's son fronts for ENN a Chinese Solar Panel Plant:
The son of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), Rory Reid, is the primary representative for ENN Energy Group, a Chinese energy company seeking to build a $5 billion solar panel plant on a 9,000-acre Clark County desert plot in Laughlin, Nevada.
ENN scored big when Clark County commissioners unanimously voted to sell the Chinese company the public land for just $4.5 million, despite the fact that it was appraised at $38.6 million.
Sen. Reid has been one of ENN’s biggest supporters, having recruited the company during a 2011 trip to China. According to Reuters, last month Sen. Reid tried to “pressure Nevada's largest power company, NV Energy, to sign up as ENN's first customer.”
Both Rory Reid and Harry Reid deny having ever discussed the $5 billion Chinese solar panel plant deal:
This isn’t the first time the Reids have come under fire for alleged cronyism. In 2003, allegations emerged that Nevada industries frequently lobbied Sen. Reid through his well-connected relatives.
None of this faux stuff is there D@@@ A##.

http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppa...
http://peters.house.gov/uploads/HR3200%20Full...
I suggest you read the bill.
Voice of Reason

Massapequa, NY

#189 Oct 10, 2012
ru kidding wrote:
<quoted text>None of this faux stuff is there D@@@ A##.
http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppa...
http://peters.house.gov/uploads/HR3200%20Full...
I suggest you read the bill.
You mean the Healthcare bill that Nancy Pewlousy said " You have to vote for it, to know what is in it"?????
They still have the "Death Panel" that will decide for you what medication you will take(if you are on medicare) what treatment you may be "Allowed to take". What plans in your area you are "Allowed to join" (which is why the cost is so high, and why Romney's plan to give vouchers will open up a huge drop in cost as all healthcare providers will have to compete no matter what state they are in)
Obama-death-care, is following the English NHS health care, who by the way according to the UK NHS webside EUTHANIZED 130,000 SENIORS LAST YEAR!!!!! Do not be blinded by the Democratic Lies, or the Falseness of Barry Soetoro Obama, who is a Dumb puppet, that can not speak without a tele-prompter. Stupid voters like you forget all of his promises, and lies that he told, I would need 5 pages here to repeat them all. I was a registered Democ-rat for over 50 years, and these phonies are nothing like the Democrats of the past. They had pride in America. This group is attempting to pander to the lazy ones looking to live on government checks, food stamps, food hand-outs, and live on Obama's lies of the Government takeing care of your from birth to Death. The cost of that is going to End the United States of America, and make us a less than a 3 world country. Obama's answer? Same sex marriage= no children.
Continue pushing Abortions= less births and people to care for.
Healthcare death panels for the people on Medicare= kill them off as they age, they are bothersome because they get sick more often.
Remember this you "Baby-Boomers" you will enter that stage just as the full effect of the Obama-Death-care goes into full swing.
Those of you just going into the 60 yrs old, will be facing the same treatment, but by that time, they will have if perfected, and accepted, and have everyone conditioned to accept it, as they will have no choice by then, as we will have become GREECE-USA.
Barry Soetoro is following what Norman Matoon Thomas said in 1944:

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism.
But, under the name of "Liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened"
He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party.
The Democratic Party has adopted our platform".

The Prediction Of Norman Mattoon Thomas Is Coming True

Today, even the most socialist Dems will still deny that their policies and the policies of Barack Obama are socialist.

Thomas was right. We Americans will never “knowingly” adopt socialism.

Wake up America, Socialism is here already!!! You will be nailing the coffin shut if you vote for Obama again.
Smokin Joe

Massapequa, NY

#190 Oct 13, 2012
Voice of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean the Healthcare bill that Nancy Pewlousy said " You have to vote for it, to know what is in it"?????
They still have the "Death Panel" that will decide for you what medication you will take(if you are on medicare) what treatment you may be "Allowed to take". What plans in your area you are "Allowed to join" (which is why the cost is so high, and why Romney's plan to give vouchers will open up a huge drop in cost as all healthcare providers will have to compete no matter what state they are in)
Obama-death-care, is following the English NHS health care, who by the way according to the UK NHS webside EUTHANIZED 130,000 SENIORS LAST YEAR!!!!! Do not be blinded by the Democratic Lies, or the Falseness of Barry Soetoro Obama, who is a Dumb puppet, that can not speak without a tele-prompter. Stupid voters like you forget all of his promises, and lies that he told, I would need 5 pages here to repeat them all. I was a registered Democ-rat for over 50 years, and these phonies are nothing like the Democrats of the past. They had pride in America. This group is attempting to pander to the lazy ones looking to live on government checks, food stamps, food hand-outs, and live on Obama's lies of the Government takeing care of your from birth to Death. The cost of that is going to End the United States of America, and make us a less than a 3 world country. Obama's answer? Same sex marriage= no children.
Continue pushing Abortions= less births and people to care for.
Healthcare death panels for the people on Medicare= kill them off as they age, they are bothersome because they get sick more often.
Remember this you "Baby-Boomers" you will enter that stage just as the full effect of the Obama-Death-care goes into full swing.
Those of you just going into the 60 yrs old, will be facing the same treatment, but by that time, they will have if perfected, and accepted, and have everyone conditioned to accept it, as they will have no choice by then, as we will have become GREECE-USA.
Barry Soetoro is following what Norman Matoon Thomas said in 1944:
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism.
But, under the name of "Liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened"
He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party.
The Democratic Party has adopted our platform".
The Prediction Of Norman Mattoon Thomas Is Coming True
Today, even the most socialist Dems will still deny that their policies and the policies of Barack Obama are socialist.
Thomas was right. We Americans will never “knowingly” adopt socialism.
Wake up America, Socialism is here already!!! You will be nailing the coffin shut if you vote for Obama again.
I have been saying this for weeks, If (in my opinion when) the President gets re-elected people are going to say the elections were rigged.

*The birth certificate didn't exist.

It does? Well its not the long one.

Oh you have the long form? Well this crease makes it look fake.

*The jobs statistics look bad? He is destroying the country!

Numbers dip below 8%? They must have cooked the books!

*President Leads the polls? Liberal media LIES!

Romney does well in a debate and gets a bump in polls?

They are now legitimate.

This kind of dilution thought is going to be the downfall of the US.
Smokin Joe

Massapequa, NY

#191 Oct 13, 2012
WakeUp wrote:
<quoted text>
Blah, blah, blah. Loser.
But hey, good luck to you in the future. lol!
P.S. Did you check out what silver and gold are doing today? WAKE UP!
Why are people in Colorado so fucking crazy? They live in a beautiful state, a lot of the people there seem pot friendly, and they have loads of awesome microbreweries. It sounds like an optimal place to live, wouldn't you think? But most of the people I have talked to from there are absolutely bat shit insane.
Bruser

Massapequa, NY

#193 Oct 25, 2012
Wednesday, October 24, 2012
What Obama Doesn't Want You to Know About Benghazi

After reading an investigative article by Frank J. Gaffney Jr. with hard on the ground work of Bret Baier and Catherin Herridge at Fox News, Aaron Klein at WND.com and Clare Lopez of RadicalIslam.org . we finally understand what Obama was doing in Benghazi that you aren’t supposed to know.
President Obama didn't want you to know that he through Ambassador Stevens, Saudi and Qatar agents were using this so-called Consulate (it was not a Consulate) as a meeting place to supply and coordinate U.S. arms to the Syrian rebels who are at this time controlled by al Qaeda.
So, in other words with less than two months before a Presidential election the President didn't want to be seen by the world as supplying al Qaeda with arms. It would have and still could be a deal breaker for the American people.
As this story gains legs and more evidence streams out over the internet to Americans more and more are putting the pieces together. Some say this is another Iran-Contra Affair, which I would agree.
In the beginning the supplies to Syria were going to the right rebels but since Obama refused to commit openly and supportively to the rebels with technical and on the ground personal, al Qaeda took over.
So, instead of stopping the shipments al Qaeda continues to get our arms shipments.
This is very confusing isn't it? We have an al Qaeda affiliate in Libya attacking and assassinating one of the guys, Ambassador Stevens that was supplying their guys in Syria.
But, that’s what happens in the “fog of war” one hand sometimes never knows what the other is doing! This whole affair will become very embarrassing the Mr. Obama prior to Election Day, you can be sure of that!–

N.P.Contompasis

(just like the "fast and furious" another idiot idea from the head idiot, Obama, and they do not understand you can not deal with the Al Qaeda
OBama(Barry Soetoro) is writing a new book called
"Lies I told the American people" DO YOU WANT ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF FAILED PROGRAMS SO THAT HE CAN "TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT????)
TV MAN

United States

#194 Oct 26, 2012
Hey "Bruser the loser", check this out. CEO's are telling Congress to Tax Them to avoid a "fiscal cliff". The CEO for Honeywell said that most wealthy people get it. They said Romney is a fool. They said all tax increases are not job killers, and admitted solving this issue without increases in taxes is ludicrous. TV MAN told you. Watch independents knock out Romney. Why? Because most independents are financially literate. Many conservatives today are clueless and could be dangerous for society. Not only that, their religious beliefs are interpreted in their favor. Do they really think they know what God Intends.
Voice of Reason

Massapequa, NY

#195 Oct 27, 2012
TV MAN wrote:
Hey "Bruser the loser", check this out. CEO's are telling Congress to Tax Them to avoid a "fiscal cliff". The CEO for Honeywell said that most wealthy people get it. They said Romney is a fool. They said all tax increases are not job killers, and admitted solving this issue without increases in taxes is ludicrous. TV MAN told you. Watch independents knock out Romney. Why? Because most independents are financially literate. Many conservatives today are clueless and could be dangerous for society. Not only that, their religious beliefs are interpreted in their favor. Do they really think they know what God Intends.
That can't be your mouth talking, it must be the other end, where your brains are at. Go on the Financial blogs. Better still worry more about your Soul fool, your money will stay here on earth, unless a fool like you believes he will take it with him. Good luck on that one TV Fool.
TV MAN

United States

#197 Oct 29, 2012
Voice of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
That can't be your mouth talking, it must be the other end, where your brains are at. Go on the Financial blogs. Better still worry more about your Soul fool, your money will stay here on earth, unless a fool like you believes he will take it with him. Good luck on that one TV Fool.
It's time for Voice of No Reason to be exploited for what he is. I don't believe Voice means any harm, I believe he 's just stupid, and here's why. Sorry to do this to you Voice, but you asked for it.

By request http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05 ...

Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama?
It’s enough to make even the most ardent Obama cynic scratch his head in confusion.

Amidst all the cries of Barack Obama being the most prolific big government spender the nation has ever suffered, Marketwatch is reporting that our president has actually been tighter with a buck than any United States president since Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Courtesy of Marketwatch-

In fiscal 2010 (the first Obama budget) spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.
In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.
In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.
Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.
Capt Mark T Voss

Hicksville, NY

#202 May 6, 2013
The Department of Defense announced today the death of Capt. Mark T. Voss, 27, of Colorado Springs, Colo.,  who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. 
Capt. Voss died May 3, near Chon-Aryk, Kyrgyzstan, in the crash of a KC-135 aircraft. He was assigned to the 93rd Air Refueling Squadron, Fairchild Air Force Base, Wash. The cause of the crash is under investigation. 
Spc Rob L Nichols

Bronx, NY

#204 Jul 26, 2013
The Department of Defense announced today the death of Spc. Rob L. Nichols, 24, of Colorado Springs, Colo.  who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. 
   Spc. Nichols died July 23, in Soltan Kheyl, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device.  He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga. 

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