Health Care Debate - Bismarck, ND

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Bismarck, ND

#1 Oct 11, 2009
Health care reform is critical to the U.S.'s future.
Medicare Lady

Bismarck, ND

#2 Oct 25, 2009
It is long past time for health care reform in the USA.
Judy Kirsch

Bismarck, ND

#3 Oct 31, 2009
I think the government should control health care as is done in European countries. I have traveled exensively in western Europe and their health care is excellent. Why can't we do the same thing? Because too many doctors and pharmacists and insurance companies want to make money.
Judy Kirsch

Bismarck, ND

#4 Oct 31, 2009
I support the health care program. Western Europe's health care system is excellent. Why can't ours also be excellent? Too many doctors want to get rich

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#5 Oct 31, 2009
Judy Kirsch wrote:
I think the government should control health care as is done in European countries. I have traveled exensively in western Europe and their health care is excellent. Why can't we do the same thing? Because too many doctors and pharmacists and insurance companies want to make money.
It must be nice to be independently wealthy and not have to worry about 'making' money. Most of us have to work for a living, we didn't inherit it, take it from a couple ex-husbands or maybe you are just one of those nasty, greedy, wealthy business people. It would serve us well if you just traveled to Europe for your care.
Here it is

Gordon, GA

#6 Oct 31, 2009
Read it for yourself:

H.R. 3962 - Affordable Health Care for America Act as Introduced

Page 94—Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private individual health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government

Page 110—Section 222(e) requires the use of federal dollars to fund abortions through the government-run health plan—and, if the Hyde Amendment were ever not renewed, would require the plan to fund elective abortions

Page 111—Section 223 establishes a new board of federal bureaucrats (the “Health Benefits Advisory Committee”) to dictate the health plans that all individuals must purchase —and would likely require all Americans to subsidize and purchase plans that cover any abortion

Page 211—Section 321 establishes a new government-run health plan that, according to non-partisan actuaries at the Lewin Group, would cause as many as 114 million Americans to lose their existing coverage

Page 225—Section 330 permits—but does not require—Members of Congress to enroll in government-run health care

Page 255—Section 345 includes language requiring verification of income for individuals wishing to receive federal health care subsidies under the bill—while the bill includes a requirement for applicants to verify their citizenship, it does not include a similar requirement to verify applicants’ identity, thus encouraging identity fraud for undocumented immigrants and others wishing to receive taxpayer-subsidized health benefits

Page 297—Section 501 imposes a 2.5 percent tax on all individuals who do not purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health insurance— the tax would apply on individuals with incomes under $250,000, thus breaking a central promise of then-Senator Obama’s presidential campaign

Page 313—Section 512 imposes an 8 percent “tax on jobs” for firms that cannot afford to purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health coverage ; according to an analysis by Harvard Professor Kate Baicker, such a tax would place millions “at substantial risk of unemployment”—with minority workers losing their jobs at twice the rate of their white counterparts

Page 336—Section 551 imposes additional job-killing taxes, in the form of a half-trillion dollar “surcharge,” more than half of which will hit small businesses ; according to a model developed by President Obama’s senior economic advisor, such taxes could cost up to 5.5 million jobs

Page 520—Section 1161 cuts more than $150 billion from Medicare Advantage plans, potentially jeopardizing millions of seniors’ existing coverage

Page 733—Section 1401 establishes a new Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research; the bill includes no provisions preventing the government-run health plan from using such research to deny access to life-saving treatments on cost grounds, similar to Britain’s National Health Service, which denies patient treatments costing more than $35,000

Page 1174—Section 1802(b) includes provisions entitled “TAXES ON CERTAIN INSURANCE POLICIES” to fund comparative effectiveness research, breaking Speaker Pelosi’s promise that “We will not be taxing [health] benefits in any bill that passes the House,” and the President’s promise not to raise taxes on families with incomes under $250,000

Beulah, ND

#7 Nov 4, 2009
The cost is nearly a TRILLION dollars and if the normal government cost overruns, it will cost 2-3 times that much. The 'rich' will pay doesn't fly - every single person with a job will pay far more. The endless tax increase will cost far too much.

Beulah, ND

#8 Dec 19, 2009
This is going to haunt our children for generations. A major 'entitlement' that will make social security and Medicare go broke even faster. The government is doing to us what those that just spend because they still have a credit card do to themselves (and us when they go bankrupt)
curious joe

Morehead, KY

#9 Jan 5, 2010
here it is, thanks for the information. judy, our health care system is already excellent. i suppose you are referring to those who are uninsured. our country is 13 trillion dollars in debt. for the most part, we are in debt trying to support those that cannot and will not work. we cannot afford to pay people not to work. two thirds of the states are in bankruptcy. there are too few workers to support the existing handouts, let alone a one trillion dollar health care plan.
curious joe

Morehead, KY

#10 Jan 5, 2010
it would be wonderful if everyone had all the things in life to be happy. that is a dream world. someone must pay for it. that someone is the working people who are already under paid and over taxed. they should have something to say about it. they will this fall when they vote out of office every politician who is betraying our country. i suggest to you that the problem is not greedy doctors but self serving, greedy politicians.
Susie Q

Bismarck, ND

#12 Jan 8, 2010
It's time to get started on needed improvements, pilot projects, etc.; modifications will be needed over time.

United States

#13 Jun 14, 2010
you got to be jokeing to wont that bill
Spc Tyler J Orgaard

Hicksville, NY

#14 Dec 6, 2012
The Department of Defense announced today the death of Spc. Tyler J. Orgaard, 20, of Bismarck, N.D. who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.

Spc. Orgaard died Dec. 3, in Lashkar Gah City, Helmand province, Afghanistan, of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit with an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 818th Engineer Company, 164th Engineer Battalion, Williston, N.D.

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