Gun Laws Debate - St. Louis, MO

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Does the US need to reform its gun laws?

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#1
Jul 24, 2012
 
Not at all! The laws on the books are good enough as far as federal legislation goes. Some states could stand to loosen their laws (NY, NJ, MA, IL, CA).
Gun control only burdens gun owners since criminals don't follow the law in the first place! That's why they're criminals!!!! That said every time a tragedy involving guns occurs, the typical gun-grabbing politicians/organizations come out of the woodwork crying for gun control even before the bodies of the victims are cold. They are pathetic!
manichols

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#2
Jul 25, 2012
 
When guns are banned only criminals will have guns. It will create a new black market. Intelligence is that several So American Countries have stock piles of weapons and are waiting for a gun ban in USA so those weapons can be smuggled over U.S. border and sold on black market.
manichols

Hazelwood, MO

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#3
Jul 25, 2012
 
You think the massacre in Aurora Colorado was bad? Give up your guns and you will see a real massacre. Once you give up your guns who will protect your family and you?

They Want Your Guns!

They want all your Guns so they can hack you to death with Machetes, Watch Hotel Rwanda and learn how a gunless society was slaughtered by simply importing thousands of MACHETTES into Rwanda!
The Rwandan Genocide was the 1994 mass murder of an estimated 800,000 people in the small East African nation of Rwanda. The Genocide was carried out mainly with Machetes by Hutu Power who asserted that the Tutsi intended to enslave the Hutu and must be resisted at all costs.
manichols

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#4
Jul 25, 2012
 
Venezuela’s Kalashnikov Threat to Latin America

By Sam Logan
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez announced on 30 May that the
first shipment of 30,000 AK-103 assault rifles would arrive in
Venezuela by the end of June. On the same day, Alexander
Badistan, spokesman for the Russian arms manufacturer
Rosoboronexport, said the company would grant Venezuela a
license to manufacture AK-103 rifles. Chavez’s statement
confirmed that claim.“The Russians are going to install a
Kalashnikov rifle plant and a munitions factory so we can
defend every street, every hill, every corner,” he said.
The 30,000 rifles that are due to arrive in Venezuela are part
of a larger arms build-up that has caught the attention of US
and South American leaders. Yet for all the media coverage of
new fighter jets and submarines from Russia, patrol boats from
Spain, and the specter of ballistic missiles from North Korea,
a threat that has been overlooked has become more serious.
The Venezuelan military does not employ strict control over
its stockpile of small arms and light weapons (SALW) and
ammunition for those weapons. According to the Federation of
American Scientists (FAS), 400 of the 9,380 rifles seized from
illegal groups in Colombia from 1995 to 2000 bear the symbol
of the Venezuelan Armed Forces.
The US-based RAND Corporation think tank claims that there
were at least 21 known arms trafficking routes between
Venezuela and Colombia in 2003. Reports from Jane’s
Information Group claim that members of the Venezuelan Armed
Forces continue to smuggle into Colombia small numbers of
Venezuela’s old FAL rifles.
An AK-103 rifle factory based in Venezuela could add hundreds
of thousands of guns to Venezuela’s poorly controlled SALW
stockpile.
manichols

Hazelwood, MO

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Jul 25, 2012
 
Rampant corruption, combined with strong ties between some
Venezuelan security officials and leftist rebels from the
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC), creates a
scenario that places Venezuela in the center of a region-wide
black market. Adding hundreds of thousands of assault rifles
creates a temptation for Venezuelan criminals to sell those
weapons on the black market, creating a region-wide security
threat.
The transit point
Venezuela is known as the region’s top transit country for
cocaine flowing out of Colombia. Analysts believe that as much
as half (or some 300 tons) of Colombia’s yearly production of
cocaine flows through Venezuela every year. Connections
between FARC and the Venezuelan authorities have been
suspected for years.
The recent seizure of 5.5 tons of cocaine in Mexico
underscores Venezuela’s facilitator role in moving drugs north
from Colombia through Mexico into the US. The cocaine was
packaged in suitcases loaded onto a DC-9 aircraft, which had
set out from Caracas' Maiqueta International Airport.
Venezuelan authorities immediately began an investigation into
charges of corruption that reached the highest levels of
airport officials and Venezuelan security authorities.
Analysts believe that criminals paid as much as US$2 million
to airport officials to allow the shipment of at least one ton
of cocaine a month.
Mexican authorities confirmed that the cocaine packages they
seized from the DC-9 were stamped with markings that could be
traced back to the FARC. They also believe the cocaine was en
route to the Mexican Sinaloa Cartel, currently run by “El
Chapo” Guzman, who battles the Gulf Cartel for control of
access into the US through the Nuevo Laredo border crossing
into Laredo, Texas.
Blondie

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#6
Jul 29, 2012
 
not at all! criminals are always gonna be able to get them! why punish people who have them legitimately?

Since: Apr 11

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#7
Aug 4, 2012
 
If anything they need to be loosened...not only is it my God-given right to defend myself from criminals and government tyranny, it is also my responsibility to defend my home and my family...or my fellow movie-goers as the case may be.

Since: Apr 12

Saint Louis, MO

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#8
Aug 13, 2012
 
No reason for assault rifles in homes. No reason for any type weapon that is ONLY designed for military use and mass killings.
srb

Golden, IL

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#9
Aug 14, 2012
 
It appears the state laws for Illinois need to catch up to the nation. It also appears a small populous region near & including Chicago is deciding for the whole state. Perhaps they should control this area & let the rest of the state make their own decision.
Grant Daniel Walton

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Aug 14, 2012
 
maloninc wrote:
No reason for assault rifles in homes. No reason for any type weapon that is ONLY designed for military use and mass killings.
No reason for military then, by that logic. You want to take away the good guys guns because the bad guys have guns. Dead is dead, crazy people will find ways to kill with or without guns, should we ban airplanes while we're at it.
Grant Daniel Walton

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#11
Aug 14, 2012
 
Guns need to reform the U.S.
worried

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#12
Aug 15, 2012
 
Hey guys, I'm from North Texas and trying to find out if a rumor is true. Heard there is increased military
in St. Louis. Supposedly "drills" but more military presence that ever before. Rumors saying larger cities in U.S. training for marshall law if it comes to that. Anybody know anything?

Since: Oct 10

House Springs MO.

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#13
Aug 17, 2012
 
maloninc wrote:
No reason for assault rifles in homes. No reason for any type weapon that is ONLY designed for military use and mass killings.
And there aren't very many assault rifles in homes. Yes there are assault style rifles but unless you have the required federal license, you probably don't have an assault rifle.(Certainly you don't have one legally.)In fire capability, the baddest looking assault style rifle is only equal to many hunting rifles. The "assault weapon ban" focused on the cosmetics of the gun not the capabilities of it. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

Since: Oct 10

House Springs MO.

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#14
Aug 17, 2012
 
worried wrote:
Hey guys, I'm from North Texas and trying to find out if a rumor is true. Heard there is increased military
in St. Louis. Supposedly "drills" but more military presence that ever before. Rumors saying larger cities in U.S. training for marshall law if it comes to that. Anybody know anything?
There were exercises in North St. Louis a few months ago. Apparently they've been conducted in other cities too. Check out "The Blaze" for more info.

Since: Oct 10

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#15
Aug 17, 2012
 
Yes and no. I think concealed carry permits should be reciprocal just as driver's licenses are.
Mark

Saint Louis, MO

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#16
Mar 1, 2013
 
Criminals are people that commit crimes, crimes are actions and deeds that violate laws. So, by definition, when people ignore laws they are criminals. So, how do more laws change that?
It doesn't! When people ignore laws, what makes you think more of the same (laws) will change that? It won't! Laws only hinder those hat follow them. Law-abiding citizens are being targeted by the "lawmakers" and anti-gun idiots as the reason for criminals committing their crimes, That is insanity. It is clearly an agenda to destroy the 2nd amendment. They want to remove the rights of citizens of this country to defend themselves with a weapon that acts as an equalizer and puts a smaller weaker person on more of a even footing against an armed bigger attacker.
Mark

Saint Louis, MO

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#17
Mar 1, 2013
 
Our PERMIT is the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights!

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