Gun Laws Debate - Chambersburg, PA

Discuss the national Gun Laws debate in Chambersburg, PA.

Does the US need to reform its gun laws?

Chambersburg thinks we need reform.
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Obamanation

Manchester, MI

#2487 Apr 4, 2013
The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good--

George Washington

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#2488 Apr 4, 2013
Obamanation wrote:
Thomas Jefferson wrote, "The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Is the premise of your argument that we need guns to protect ourselves from the Government?

Are you a Conservative?

Would you be in favor of cutting the military budget in half if it meant we could lower the national debt?

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#2489 Apr 4, 2013
Obamanation wrote:
Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties--
Abraham Lincoln
The Constitution says that a slave is 3/5th a man. You think maybe Lincoln is standing on both sides of this issue?

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#2490 Apr 4, 2013
TaxNoMore wrote:
“It’s extremely alarming that Rep. DeGette is running federal legislation to ban magazine clips,
when she doesn’t even know what a magazine clip is,”
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Ok.
So?
The issue with large clips is that they are needed by people who are too lazy or too unskilled to bother to aim.

There is no civilian situation in which you need to be able to fire off 30 rounds in rapid succession. That amount of capacity lends itself to no-look, spray and pray shooting. That results in the deaths of innocent by standards.

There's no reason NOT to limit a murder's ammo capacity thus forcing them to take the extra second to actually AIM the gun.

Google "by stander shot" or "stray bullet" and see how many people who aren't involved in anything get gunned down by the NRA's insistence that "more bullets in the air" means safer people.
Obamanation

Manchester, MI

#2491 Apr 4, 2013
"As we have seen, the first public expression of disenchantment with nonviolence arose around the question of "self-defense." In a sense this is a false issue, for the right to defend one's home and one's person when attacked has been guaranteed through the ages by common law." --

Martin Luther King, Jr.
Obamanation

Manchester, MI

#2492 Apr 4, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Is the premise of your argument that we need guns to protect ourselves from the Government?
Absolutely!! "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their 'constitutional' right of amending it or their 'revolutionary' right to dismember or overthrow it." -- Abraham Lincoln
Are you a Conservative?
Absolutley!!
Would you be in favor of cutting the military budget in half if it meant we could lower the national debt?
Absolutely!! The only problem there is that the Obama regime would take the savings and use it to fund more social programs and handouts!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#2493 Apr 4, 2013
Obamanation wrote:
Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth--
George Washington
Obamanation wrote:
The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good--
George Washington
These quotes are bogus. George Washington didn't say either of them.

"If you have to fabricate quotes by the founding fathers to support your argument, you don't have a very strong argument."
-- Daniel T. Mann

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#2494 Apr 4, 2013
States with weakest firearm laws lead in gun deaths: study

Eight of the states with the highest levels of gun violence were among the 25 with the weakest gun laws, said the report, citing a study last year by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.[...]

Louisiana, Alaska and Alabama have the highest levels of gun violence, based on measures that include firearm deaths, suicides, homicides, and police officials feloniously killed by guns.

Hawaii, Massachusetts and Connecticut had the lowest rates of gun violence, and were among the 10 states with the strongest gun laws, the study found.

Hawaii had the fewest firearm deaths in 2010, at 3.31 per 100,000 people.

Last month, researchers reported in the online journal, JAMA Internal Medicine, that more gun laws in a state were associated with lower firearm death rates.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/03/us-...
Nerd Rage

Fayetteville, PA

#2495 Apr 4, 2013
Many states with the weakest firearms laws have the highest rates of gun-related homicides and suicides, according to a study released on Wednesday by a LIBERAL THINK TANK.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/03/us-...

Misleading? Inaccurate? or Biased? Take your pick.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#2496 Apr 5, 2013
Nerd Rage wrote:
Many states with the weakest firearms laws have the highest rates of gun-related homicides and suicides, according to a study released on Wednesday by a LIBERAL THINK TANK.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/03/us-...
Misleading? Inaccurate? or Biased? Take your pick.
LOL! No evidence to support any of these accusations.

Desperate? Dishonest? or Stupid? Take your pick.
Marisa

Chambersburg, PA

#2497 Apr 5, 2013
I just caught the tail end of this so I am not sure what rhis about.....

Maya Angelou, a supporter of Obama, has admitted to owning guns and apparently shot at an intruder.

Anyone know anything about this?

I don't have time to look it up...just thought I would pas it on...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#2498 Apr 5, 2013
Marisa wrote:
I just caught the tail end of this so I am not sure what rhis about.....
Maya Angelou, a supporter of Obama, has admitted to owning guns and apparently shot at an intruder.
Anyone know anything about this?
I don't have time to look it up...just thought I would pas it on...
I get the impression that you believe if someone supports the President or regulations on guns that they would not also own guns and use them for self-defense.

Many of us who support President Obama also own guns, enjoy shooting them, and carry them for self-defense. Saying that isn't something we "admit," as if we are reluctantly conceding that fact.

Support for better gun regulations and owning and using guns are not mutually exclusive categories. You do understand that, right?

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#2499 Apr 5, 2013
Nerd Rage wrote:
Many states with the weakest firearms laws have the highest rates of gun-related homicides and suicides, according to a study released on Wednesday by a LIBERAL THINK TANK.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/03/us-...
Misleading? Inaccurate? or Biased? Take your pick.
I don't think the article was biased at all. Nor was it inaccurate or misleading.

However, I would like to see the same study with suicide parsed out.

I wonder how many of the 20.28 gun deaths in Alaska are deliberate suicides. Ditto Montana. Both states strike me as being lonely and cold.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#2500 Apr 5, 2013
Marisa wrote:
I just caught the tail end of this so I am not sure what rhis about.....
Maya Angelou, a supporter of Obama, has admitted to owning guns and apparently shot at an intruder.
Anyone know anything about this?
I don't have time to look it up...just thought I would pas it on...
Unfortunately the articles neither describe when this event took place nor what kind of gun she had.

Once again, even those in favor of limiting public access to things like machine guns and limitless ammo capacity understand that there is a place in our society for things like shotguns.

If you can't protect your house with a shotgun, then your machine gun isn't going to protect you either.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#2501 Apr 5, 2013
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President Obama told a group of Democratic donors Wednesday night that the children killed in the Newtown, Conn. attack last December were shot with a “fully automatic weapon.”

Speaking to donors at a Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee fundraiser in San Francisco, Obama urged the need for “gun control,” and referred for the first time to an alleged “fully automatic weapon” involved in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, which took the lives of 20 children and 6 adults.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/04/obama-newto...

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With Obama lying, the DCCC raised $3.2 million during the fundraising events in San Francisco.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#2502 Apr 5, 2013
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Only 88,000 new jobs were created in March,

while 496,000 Americans gave up looking for jobs,

leaving 11.7 million Americans waiting in unemployment lines.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/05/goolsbee-ma...

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We need gun control now!!
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We need 12 million law breaking illegals made citizens now!!

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We need gays married now!!!!!

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Alinsky's tactics were based, not on Stalin's revolutionary violence, but on the Neo-Marxist strategies of Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Communist.

Relying on gradualism, infiltration and the dialectic process rather than a bloody revolution,

Gramsci's transformational Marxism

was so subtle that few even noticed the deliberate changes.

"'The organizer's first job is to create the issues or problems,'

and 'organizations must be based on many issues.'

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The organizer 'must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community;

fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression.

He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act....

An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.'"
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#2503 Apr 5, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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I get the impression that you believe if someone supports the President or regulations on guns that they would not also own guns and use them for self-defense.
Many of us who support President Obama also own guns, enjoy shooting them, and carry them for self-defense. Saying that isn't something we "admit," as if we are reluctantly conceding that fact.
Support for better gun regulations and owning and using guns are not mutually exclusive categories. You do understand that, right?
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Record 89,967,000 Not in Labor Force;

Another 663,000 Drop Out In March

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/record-899670...

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Gun enthusiasts are buying firearms with unparalleled zeal.

As a result, ammunition is in short supply nationwide.

"We can't get any inventory within a 100-mile radius," said Mark Campbell, owner of Mid America Arms in St. Louis.

He's having a hard time keeping ammo in stock.

"It started right around the election, as soon as President Obama mentioned gun control.

But right after the school shooting in [Newtown] Connecticut, that's when it went crazy."

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It's no wonder obummer wants gun control

Lots of unhappy people and lots of guns.

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Support for better gun regulations and owning and using guns are not mutually exclusive categories.

You do understand that, right?

You do understand that, right?
Marisa

Chambersburg, PA

#2506 Apr 5, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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I get the impression that you believe if someone supports the President or regulations on guns that they would not also own guns and use them for self-defense.
Many of us who support President Obama also own guns, enjoy shooting them, and carry them for self-defense. Saying that isn't something we "admit," as if we are reluctantly conceding that fact.
Support for better gun regulations and owning and using guns are not mutually exclusive categories. You do understand that, right?
I think I am staying away from gun talk. I really don't know all that much about them, other then I think law abiding citizens should not be penalized for what some one else has done illegally. I do agree on background checks. And with that said I don't think I'll get involved with this thread.
Dan the Man

Los Angeles, CA

#2507 Apr 5, 2013
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WASHINGTON –“Harrison J. Bounel,” an alias identified for Barack Obama by debt-collection and skip-trace expert Albert Hendershot, is currently being scrubbed from professional databases, the investigator reports.

“I believe Obama supporters are trying to eliminate any and all evidence of Obama’s shady past from all public databases,” Hendershot told WND.

“It’s the only explanation for why the alias ‘Harrison J. Bounel’ has dropped from sight in database searches on public records done for Obama’s Social Security number and home address in Chicago.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2011/08/336889/#V1qAfeCTa3...

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#2508 Apr 5, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Idiot, Big Mac is McDonalds. Whopper is BK
LOL

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