Gun Laws Debate - Albany, NY

[Sticky]

We need to do away with ALL gun laws, repeal the 1932 NFA and the 1968 GCA, and allow law abiding people the opportunity to defend themselves without regard to the state, county, or city they are in.

[Wayward]

Sticky wrote:

We need to do away with ALL gun laws, repeal the 1932 NFA and the 1968 GCA, and allow law abiding people the opportunity to defend themselves without regard to the state, county, or city they are in.

Getting rid of "all" gun laws means that everyone, of every age and every criminal record could purchase any type and number of guns.

Brilliant.

[Kaiser Soze]

Ok, keep 18 years old and prohibit felons, but other than that, I agree with sticky. Time to equalize guns laws across the country. The rules need to be the same for everyone.

[Wayward]

Kaiser Soze wrote:

Ok, keep 18 years old and prohibit felons, but other than that, I agree with sticky. Time to equalize guns laws across the country. The rules need to be the same for everyone.

So, you want every 18 year old who isn't a convicted felon to be able to buy and carry a handgun?

So, basically EVERY high school and college kid in Albany would be able to walk around with a concealed pistol. That's a great idea, because we all know how grounded and sensible high school and college aged kids are.

[JoeSchmoe]

Of course there has to be common sense happy medium to gun laws. What's missing here is that background checks needs to be done everywhere. The laws are lax in internet purchases, all of which are legal. No one has even addressed that most of the crimes committed with handguns are illegal handguns or stolen which the owner never reports as he/she themselves don't have a permit to own. Many states just let you come in witha valid drivers license to purchase a weapon. So it appears if you can drive a car, that doesn't make you a mass murderer

[Sticky]

Wayward wrote:

So, you want every 18 year old who isn't a convicted felon to be able to buy and carry a handgun?
So, basically EVERY high school and college kid in Albany would be able to walk around with a concealed pistol. That's a great idea, because we all know how grounded and sensible high school and college aged kids are.

The Constitution disagrees with you. Self defense is a fundamental human right.

JoeSchmoe wrote:

The laws are lax in internet purchases, all of which are legal.

You cannot buy a gun on the internet legally and have it shipped to you. It must go through a licensed federal firearms dealer. You've bought into the liberal tripe about the "gun show loophole" and internet sales that just isn't true.

Next time, please know your facts before you start typing. You cost me about 40 seconds of my life that I can never get back.

Now go back into the other room and let the adults talk.

[Wayward]

Sticky wrote:

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The Constitution disagrees with you. Self defense is a fundamental human right.
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You cannot buy a gun on the internet legally and have it shipped to you. It must go through a licensed federal firearms dealer. You've bought into the liberal tripe about the "gun show loophole" and internet sales that just isn't true.
Next time, please know your facts before you start typing. You cost me about 40 seconds of my life that I can never get back.
Now go back into the other room and let the adults talk.

Let's face it, you weren't doing much with your life, anyway.

[Matt Classic]

We have too many gun laws already.

[JoeSchmoe]

Sticky wrote:

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The Constitution disagrees with you. Self defense is a fundamental human right.
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You cannot buy a gun on the internet legally and have it shipped to you. It must go through a licensed federal firearms dealer. You've bought into the liberal tripe about the "gun show loophole" and internet sales that just isn't true.
Next time, please know your facts before you start typing. You cost me about 40 seconds of my life that I can never get back.
Now go back into the other room and let the adults talk.

Gee I guess you're and idiot. NBC News just did a whole Dateline issue on Internet sales.. I suggest you pull your head out of the sand and actaully paticipate in society. There were no checks, and Colorado was the number of place where guns are being purchased. By the way not everything on the Internet is true, sorta like your comment about licensed federal firearms dealers. Half the guns sold on the internet are illegal moron.

[Sticky]

Reading comprehension obviously isn't your strong suit, so you should watch who you call a moron.

Go back and read what I said: You cannot buy a gun on the internet legally and have it shipped to you.

If that's happening, it should be stopped, but we don't need more gun laws to curtail the actitivities of lawful gun owners. Provided that we are over 18 and not felons we should be able to carry concealed handguns without a permit, whenever, whereever.

[Louiston]

Wayward wrote:

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So, you want every 18 year old who isn't a convicted felon to be able to buy and carry a handgun?

You're right. Better we put an M-16 in their hand and march them off to war. Dolt.

Wayward wrote:

So, basically EVERY high school and college kid in Albany would be able to walk around with a concealed pistol. That's a great idea, because we all know how grounded and sensible high school and college aged kids are.

Gee, they fight your battles for you but you don't trust them otherwise. Imbecile!

[Wayward]

Louiston wrote:

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You're right. Better we put an M-16 in their hand and march them off to war. Dolt.
<quoted text>Gee, they fight your battles for you but you don't trust them otherwise. Imbecile!

Hey, they're not MY battles... I could care less what's going on in Afghanistan...and NO, I don't trust 18 year olds with guns, any more than I trust them with alcohol.

[bolbobaggins]

Need to issue carry permits good in every state.

[bolbobaggins]

Need to issue carry permits good in every state. The thugs would think twice not knowing if their victim is armed.

[Wayward]

bolbobaggins wrote:

Need to issue carry permits good in every state.

I don't want Arizona deciding who should be carrying a concealed weapon in my state, any more than Arizonan's want New York deciding who SHOULDN'T be carrying a CW in their state.

[Louiston]

Wayward wrote:

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Hey, they're not MY battles... I could care less what's going on in Afghanistan...and NO, I don't trust 18 year olds with guns, any more than I trust them with alcohol.

Well then take it up with your government because they trust 18 year olds with guns enough to send them off to battle. I trust 18 year olds with guns because I trained people younger than that the proper handling of firearms and they didn't cause problems as a result.

[Louiston]

Wayward wrote:

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I don't want Arizona deciding who should be carrying a concealed weapon in my state, any more than Arizonan's want New York deciding who SHOULDN'T be carrying a CW in their state.

I don't want New York telling me I can't carry in their oppressive state but I see your point.

[Wayward]

Louiston wrote:

<quoted text>Well then take it up with your government because they trust 18 year olds with guns enough to send them off to battle. I trust 18 year olds with guns because I trained people younger than that the proper handling of firearms and they didn't cause problems as a result.

I'll bet that you didn't let them carry those guns concealed on the street here in America, did you? Did you let them carry those guns when they were drunk or fighting with their girlfriend?

You're talking about giving ANY 18 year old who isn't a convicted felon the right to carry a concealed pistol. Have you SEEN some of the 18 year olds out there?

[Wayward]

Too many 18 year olds think with their dicks and not their brains.

[duplicos]

Waaaaaaaay too many idiots on this thread.

Give 18 year olds concealed weapons?