Gun Control Debate - Van Wert, OH

Discuss the national Gun Control debate in Van Wert, OH.

Would you support a ban on handguns?

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Laura Marbaugh

New Haven, IN

#203 Jan 27, 2013
bigJim wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry, I was referring to Andy\spike. O.K Andy, lets say that they do ban assault weapons. What makes you believe that anyone crazy enough to do a school shooting will not still use a assault rifle that was obtained illegally? Oh thats right, it will not. Do you want to know why? Because criminals don't obey the law. If anyone is going to kill people for no reason, are they going to worry about the ill eagle gun? LOL
No need to apologize I should of noticed you was speaking to Andy too but I didn't realize it. It was my bad man and I apologize.
andy

Fort Jennings, OH

#204 Jan 27, 2013
bigJim wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry, I was referring to Andy\spike. O.K Andy, lets say that they do ban assault weapons. What makes you believe that anyone crazy enough to do a school shooting will not still use a assault rifle that was obtained illegally? Oh thats right, it will not. Do you want to know why? Because criminals don't obey the law. If anyone is going to kill people for no reason, are they going to worry about the ill eagle gun? LOL
If you would have read my posting of #188 you would see where out of 142 shootings over 3/4 were commited with leagally obtained. So over 106 were were done by people that had the right to buy guns. That means less than 35 people were your so called criminals.
I guess if you don't care how many more die so you can have your assault weapons, then more power to you.
Explain why if there is a ban on assault weapons (just assault weapons) how is that taking away your right to own hundreds of other guns.
Simple question!
Laura Marbaugh

New Haven, IN

#205 Jan 27, 2013
andy wrote:
<quoted text>
If you would have read my posting of #188 you would see where out of 142 shootings over 3/4 were commited with leagally obtained. So over 106 were were done by people that had the right to buy guns. That means less than 35 people were your so called criminals.
I guess if you don't care how many more die so you can have your assault weapons, then more power to you.
Explain why if there is a ban on assault weapons (just assault weapons) how is that taking away your right to own hundreds of other guns.
Simple question!
Simple answer - The 2nd Amendment. Which gives no exception to any firearm plain and simple.

"Protects an individual's right to bear arms" now do you see any exceptions to this? I don't therefore it would violate ones Constitutional Right if there was a ban on any one or all firearm(s).

How hard is that to understand? Guns don't make someone a criminal, people make themselves criminals by the actions they choose. One could kill that many with a knife and even just their bare hands. You going demand a ban on those weapons too?
Enjoys Life

Huron, OH

#207 Jan 27, 2013
fista cuffs wrote:
hard to get thru to laura... she ain't the sharpest crayon in the deck
It's impossible to get through to someone who feels their opinions and misconstrued "facts" are the only correct ones. She goes on and on about how we pay her way and buy her smokes and soda, and now claims she gets no government assistance. She's off that's for sure. Apparently she also doesn't understand the situation of life when the founders wrote certain documents and how times have changed. I guess she also doesn't understand amendments and how they have also changed over time to allow and disallow rights the founders felt we should or shouldn't have and reversed them. it's called evolving with the times and situations.
I don't believe a word she says, she's already been proven a liar several times over. What a sad life for her children. Then people like her wonder what's happened to our nation and continue to use their screwed up logic to blame every group they are biased about instead of looking at how they live what they hate. I saw her claims that she was forced into vaccinating her children. I'm not shocked she is clueless to the fact that it's illegal to force anyone to do that and most of us are smart enough to know that little law because we read the paperwork. Then she admits someone forged her own vaccination records, what mentors she's had. Every time she posts it reveals a little more of how crazy she is, it's pathetic yet humorous since she's so smug. I have yet to read anything of substance or validity in her ramblings.

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#208 Jan 27, 2013
Enjoys Life wrote:
<quoted text>
assistance. She's off that's for sure. Apparently she also doesn't understand the situation of life when the founders wrote certain documents and how times have changed. I guess she also doesn't understand amendments and how they have
You're right. Times have changed. Sociopaths control our nation and have the blind arrogance to think they own us and know what's best for us, when they can't even balance their own checkbook. Government and media tells us we can't be trusted with guns, and yet, on the international playground, they are the genocidal bullies killing innocent men, women, and children for corporate interests. They don't have our fellow Americans fighting for our freedom. They are busy stealing freedom and liberty and using our fellow Americans to steal from other countries.
Enjoys Life

Huron, OH

#209 Jan 27, 2013
Joe Jared wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right. Times have changed. Sociopaths control our nation and have the blind arrogance to think they own us and know what's best for us, when they can't even balance their own checkbook. Government and media tells us we can't be trusted with guns, and yet, on the international playground, they are the genocidal bullies killing innocent men, women, and children for corporate interests. They don't have our fellow Americans fighting for our freedom. They are busy stealing freedom and liberty and using our fellow Americans to steal from other countries.
Then why (and this isnt pointed directly at you) be dependent on them?

Since: Mar 11

New Haven, IN

#210 Jan 27, 2013
Enjoys Life wrote:
<quoted text>
It's impossible to get through to someone who feels their opinions and misconstrued "facts" are the only correct ones. She goes on and on about how we pay her way and buy her smokes and soda, and now claims she gets no government assistance. She's off that's for sure. Apparently she also doesn't understand the situation of life when the founders wrote certain documents and how times have changed. I guess she also doesn't understand amendments and how they have also changed over time to allow and disallow rights the founders felt we should or shouldn't have and reversed them. it's called evolving with the times and situations.
I don't believe a word she says, she's already been proven a liar several times over. What a sad life for her children. Then people like her wonder what's happened to our nation and continue to use their screwed up logic to blame every group they are biased about instead of looking at how they live what they hate. I saw her claims that she was forced into vaccinating her children. I'm not shocked she is clueless to the fact that it's illegal to force anyone to do that and most of us are smart enough to know that little law because we read the paperwork. Then she admits someone forged her own vaccination records, what mentors she's had. Every time she posts it reveals a little more of how crazy she is, it's pathetic yet humorous since she's so smug. I have yet to read anything of substance or validity in her ramblings.
It's funny how you guys have so many negative things to say about Laura. You guys follow her around on this site, and continue to pick at anything she says. If you had any brain left in that head you would see how stupid you look. If you don't like what she keeps saying don't read it. Much like I usually do with all your post. Your a blabbering fool if you ask me.

Now back on subject...

If they take our guns we shall all be enslaved as a country. They say it's to help keep us safe from one another, but really it's to keep them safe from us. This is nothing more then the first step in turning this country into a communist controlled one. We as people really need to stick together, and stop this before it's to late!

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#212 Jan 27, 2013
Sean Marbaugh wrote:
<quoted text>

If they take our guns we shall all be enslaved as a country. They say it's to help keep us safe from one another, but really it's to keep them safe from us. This is nothing more then the first step in turning this country into a communist controlled one. We as people really need to stick together, and stop this before it's to late!
It's easy to find fault in people. Whatever the character of the poster, on points that are accurate, those points are no less true. As a nation, we are already enslaved in various ways. The idea that we as a people could be disarmed or worse, become manipulated into depending on the government to protect us from ourselves is ridiculous. I also agree, we need to start looking out for each other, working with each other, and encouraging mutual success. This is one reason I prefer the cooperative business model over the corporate business model.

Since: Mar 11

New Haven, IN

#213 Jan 27, 2013
fista cuffs wrote:
kinda hard to avoid the dumbass when she posts on every thread...and with all due respect sean , have you read the crap she (tries to) write?
everybody has a right to their own opinion, and that includes calling a 'dumbass' a dumbass'...
quite frankly, I don't know how you live with it...
maybe she should be more informed , and base her opinions on fact, and she wouldn't be ridiculed...
Colorado, ohio....
But what you all fail to see is you all do the same thing! Each one of you complain about each others post, but respond with a post that's just as ridiculous as the other persons. We get it you guys don't like each other. There's a point when a intelligent argument turns into nonsense chatter, and you ALL fail at keeping it on a scale higher then kindergartners playground.
Joe Jared wrote:
It's easy to find fault in people. Whatever the character of the poster, on points that are accurate, those points are no less true. As a nation, we are already enslaved in various ways. The idea that we as a people could be disarmed or worse, become manipulated into depending on the government to protect us from ourselves is ridiculous. I also agree, we need to start looking out for each other, working with each other, and encouraging mutual success. This is one reason I prefer the cooperative business model over the corporate business model.
Exactly my point! I do not feel we are fully enslaved yet, but when the guns are gone we will be. It's really sad that even with all this evidence in front of everyone's eyes, they still choose not to see what's happening.

Since: Jul 12

Van Wert, OH

#214 Jan 27, 2013
Enjoys Life wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why (and this isnt pointed directly at you) be dependent on them?
They don't understand the slavery that it represents, nor do they recognize that corporations benefit more from it than they do. The government sold us out nearly a century ago with manufactured crisis and mendacity. Only now is it becoming more obvious how.
cms

Van Wert, OH

#217 Mar 14, 2013
enough said
2nd class citizen

Van Wert, OH

#218 Mar 17, 2013
its funny some of you people think a ban on "assault rifle's" would do any good, are lost and clueless ...by deffinitoin an assault rifle has four set spots on the safty 1st spot:safe , 2nd spot 1st click:single shot , 3rd spot 2nd click:TRIPPLE BURST , 4th spot 3rd click click:FULLY AUTOMATIC. if your sports rifle like the ar-15 and or ak-47 does not have these factors IT IS NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE it is a rifle plain and simple you people who support the government infringing on our rights that are not to be infringed upon by trying to ban "assault rifle's" are scared of cosmetics aka the way it looks not how it fires. and by the way i know of a few pistols that were use in a shooting by an unstable kid named adam ,known to be violent to kill children wher his mom was layed off from and your forgeting the fact the RIFLE WAS LEFT IN THE CAR....i think adam would have thought twice if his mom came home from working at the school and was like hey adam guess what the principal just picked up his sweet ass ak-47 and get this he keeps it in his office..stop with you emotinal responce and think logicly what happened to other countries when there government started taking guns away????
VWPATRIOT

New Bloomington, OH

#219 Mar 17, 2013
Like Sara P said at CPAC, back ground checks need to start with the ASS CLOWN now in the white house

Since: Feb 13

New Haven, IN

#220 Mar 18, 2013
VWPATRIOT wrote:
Like Sara P said at CPAC, back ground checks need to start with the ASS CLOWN now in the white house
What good would BG checking people in the White House do, when it all gets covered up anyways by the Government? Normally one has to pass a BG check regardless upon entrance (employment) into any Government agency/facility. If someone in the White House did get into trouble past or present it would be all over the media whether it be given by them directly or handed over by a civilian with a camera phone or a video tape.
spike

Fort Jennings, OH

#221 Mar 18, 2013
Well, I guess it is bwetter to do nothing to protect kids from being killed. Why even take away the second amendment right from criminals? Some don't commit crimes with guns. So why take away their rights?
Doing nothing seems to be what a lot of people think is right.
We can't blame you if you don't do anything!
All in the name of the SECOND AMENDMENT.
One other questiuon.
Why is it that taking away assault weapons people think people won't have "ANY GUNS"?
Law

La Vista, NE

#223 Apr 21, 2013
spike wrote:
Well, I guess it is bwetter to do nothing to protect kids from being killed. Why even take away the second amendment right from criminals? Some don't commit crimes with guns. So why take away their rights?
Doing nothing seems to be what a lot of people think is right.
We can't blame you if you don't do anything!
All in the name of the SECOND AMENDMENT.
Liar. With over 20,000 friearms laws ALREADY on the books, how do you figure no one wants to do anything?
spike wrote:
One other questiuon.
Why is it that taking away assault weapons people think people won't have "ANY GUNS"?
Do you even know what an "assault weapon" is without Googling it or regurgitating something a pollutician told you?
Spike

Fort Jennings, OH

#224 Apr 21, 2013
Law wrote:
<quoted text>
Liar. With over 20,000 friearms laws ALREADY on the books, how do you figure no one wants to do anything?
<quoted text>Do you even know what an "assault weapon" is without Googling it or regurgitating something a pollutician told you?
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!
ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT AN ASSAULT WEAPON IS!
DOES IT HEART YOUR BRAIN TO BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD THAT KNOWS WHAT AN ASSAULT WEAPON ACTUALLY IS?
And where did you get your information about 20,000 friearms (firearms) on the books. Now Don't Google or is it something a pollutician (politician) told you.
Maybe you wrote the laws!
Law

La Vista, NE

#225 Apr 21, 2013
Spike wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!
ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT AN ASSAULT WEAPON IS!
I see. You have no knowledge on a subject but that doesn't stop you from talking out of your ass.
Spike wrote:
DOES IT HEART YOUR BRAIN....
"Heart my brain"??? You really shouldn't have quit after 3rd Grade.
Spike wrote:
...
TO BE THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD THAT KNOWS WHAT AN ASSAULT WEAPON ACTUALLY IS?
I never made that claim. But obviously YOU don't!
Spike wrote:
And where did you get your information about 20,000 friearms (firearms) on the books.
Research done for over 21 years.
Spike wrote:
Now Don't Google or is it something a pollutician (politician) told you.
Don't need to Google it. Already know it.
Spike wrote:
Maybe you wrote the laws!
Really? Is that what you think?
wtf

Van Wert, OH

#226 Apr 21, 2013
Sean Marbaugh wrote:
<quoted text>
But what you all fail to see is you all do the same thing! Each one of you complain about each others post, but respond with a post that's just as ridiculous as the other persons. We get it you guys don't like each other. There's a point when a intelligent argument turns into nonsense chatter, and you ALL fail at keeping it on a scale higher then kindergartners playground.
<quoted text>
Exactly my point! I do not feel we are fully enslaved yet, but when the guns are gone we will be. It's really sad that even with all this evidence in front of everyone's eyes, they still choose not to see what's happening.
if you think the little firepower we have can stand up to our government's fire power and the technology you are mistaken! lol
Law

La Vista, NE

#227 Apr 21, 2013
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>if you think the little firepower we have can stand up to our government's fire power and the technology you are mistaken! lol
Really? Are we talking about the same government that couldn't find an itinerant Bedouin in the country the size of Texas?

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