Gun Control Debate - O'Fallon, MO

Discuss the national Gun Control debate in O'Fallon, MO.

Would you support a ban on handguns?

O'Fallon opposes
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38
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12

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jgjg27

Lynbrook, NY

#21 Dec 10, 2012
"over 1 million American civilians have been killed by firearms (Pacific Center, 1994). Guns are unnecessary." I bet if the American civilians that were killed had a gun of their own that number would be significantly lower. Only law abiding citizens would follow the gun control laws, leaving them unprotected from criminals. You think gang members are going to stop walking around with guns because of a new law? You think terrorists are going to go easy on us because we don't have guns?
drobins5

Binghamton, NY

#22 Dec 10, 2012
By giving people the right to bear arms, the law automatically gives people the right to kill because that is the purpose of guns. Guns do not kill, people uses guns to kill.People are killing each other out of anger, hate and envy. Many people cannot control their temper and act while in anger and they later regret their actions later. Others talk about guns being in the wrong hands. There are no right hands for guns. The cruelest and most ruthless creatures—human beings—are destructive with guns in their hands. They kill their mothers, brothers, wives, children and even themselves. Why should they be trusted to have weapons in their possession? Carelessness sometimes causes shooting by accident.
jgjg27

Lynbrook, NY

#23 Dec 10, 2012
You view people as evil, when in reality the majority of people know right from wrong and are actually kind and would never murder another human. The media only shows the awful crimes committed by crazy individuals. I agree that there are definitely way too many homicides committed in the United States and it is a fact that the gun is the most commonly used weapon in a homicide, but if you look at the correlation between gun control laws and crime rate you'll notice that areas that have the least amount of gun control also have the least amount of crime, while areas that are strict on guns have the highest crime rates.

Aside from protecting law abiding citizens from criminals who would not follow gun control laws, the second amendment also protects citizens from the government taking over and controlling the citizens. Look at what happened when Germany created strict gun control laws in 1939.
Law

Papillion, NE

#24 Dec 10, 2012
drobins5 wrote:
"Gun violence in the United States has become an epidemic. From the Civil War to the present, 567,000 Americans have died in combat; but since 1920, over 1 million American civilians have been killed by firearms (Pacific Center, 1994). Guns are unnecessary.
There are over 1 million annual defensive gun uses in this country. Guns are indeeed necessary. Besides, the right to keep and bear arms is in the Bil of Rights. So the term "unnecessary" is not relevant.
drobins5 wrote:
A gun is specifically designed to bring about the death of someone/something.
Nope. It's specifically designed to emit a projectile at high velocity. It doesn't have a mind and knows nothing about killing.
drobins5 wrote:
It has no other purpose than to kill or injure, the entertainment value of target practice a simple bonus.
I would hope it would injure or kill that 3 AM intruder, determined rapist, knife-wielding attacker, and gang of carjackers.
You on the other hand promote victim disarmamnet/criminal enabling policies. It's like you're protecting one of the aforementioned vermin.
Law

Papillion, NE

#25 Dec 10, 2012
drobins5 wrote:
By giving people the right to bear arms, the law automatically gives people the right to kill because that is the purpose of guns.
First, the citizen wasn't given the right to bear arms. The right already existed. The Bill of Rights affirmed that.
If the purpose of the gun is to kill, how do you explain the millions of guns that have never killed?
Guns don't kill. People kill.
drobins5 wrote:
People are killing each other out of anger, hate and envy. Many people cannot control their temper and act while in anger and they later regret their actions later.
And the kill with bare hands...knives...blunt instruments....fire (arson)...rope...chemicals.... drowning...automobiles...explo sives/flammables...
And people were killing long before guns were invented.
drobins5 wrote:
Others talk about guns being in the wrong hands. There are no right hands for guns.
Sure there are. The over 1 million annual defensive gun uses proves it.
Now you would prefer that the young woman having to walk through a dimly lit parking lot simply give in to the whims of her attacker/rapist/potential murderer.
On the other hand, I would prefer that she be able to stand over his dead body while explaining to the auhorities how that bullet hole came to be in her attacker's chest.
I guess i have more empathy for victims of crime than you do.
drobins5 wrote:
The cruelest and most ruthless creatures—human beings—are destructive with guns in their hands. They kill their mothers, brothers, wives, children and even themselves.
And they do it with bare hands...knives...blunt instruments....fire (arson)...rope...chemicals.... drowning...automobiles...explo sives/flammables...
But those methods don't seem to elicit sympathy from you. Why is that?
drobins5 wrote:
Why should they be trusted to have weapons in their possession? Carelessness sometimes causes shooting by accident.
More people die in automobile incidents than with firearms. So let's apply your same questions.

"Why should they be trusted to have automobiles in their possession? Carelessness sometimes causes car wrecks though NOT by accident?
ACPP

Saint Louis, MO

#26 Dec 12, 2012
second amendment
Idea

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#27 Dec 14, 2012
How about spoon control? Maybe that would cut down on obesity.
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Lake Saint Louis, MO

#28 Dec 15, 2012
Another shooting in a "no gun zone". They should call them defenseless victim zones. Nearly all of these mass shootings occur in heavily populated areas that ban guns.
Proccw

Wentzville, MO

#29 Dec 15, 2012
drobins5 wrote:
"Gun violence in the United States has become an epidemic. From the Civil War to the present, 567,000 Americans have died in combat; but since 1920, over 1 million American civilians have been killed by firearms (Pacific Center, 1994). Guns are unnecessary. A gun is specifically designed to bring about the death of someone/something. It has no other purpose than to kill or injure, the entertainment value of target practice a simple bonus.
Gun Free Zones are target practice arenas for crimminals.
Pale Dago

O Fallon, MO

#30 Dec 16, 2012
Whats to debate? Was all debated a couple of centuries ago,carved in granite,called the second amendment. Case closed.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#31 Dec 16, 2012
First Admin
sorry

Saint Peters, MO

#32 Dec 16, 2012
too much violence period.
Law

Papillion, NE

#33 Dec 16, 2012
sorry wrote:
too much violence period.
Blame the criminals for that.
Think about this

Saint Louis, MO

#34 Dec 17, 2012
The essence of stricter gun laws goes only as far as the purchace of ALREADY LEGAL firearms. The idea of firearm safety needs to continue with the end user in the form of gun locks, safes, and proper training. IF you really think about it, and look at the story in CT (so far) you will see that the mother of the shooter was already in fear from her son. If that was the case, then why did he have access to the firearms that he used in the incident?
Stricter gun laws are really not the answer, it just restricts honest law abiding citizens who already have to jump through hoops supply their hobby, more hoops to jump through. It also puts the people at risk of being targets to those who obtain their weapons illegally.
With the economy in the dump, more law enforcement is being cut, so that leaves the honest citizens to fend for themselves. I would rather defend my home and family until the police get there, than hide in a corner of my closet, and hope they just go away.
realistic

Saint Peters, MO

#35 Dec 17, 2012
Gun laws aren't more lenient today than they were 25 years ago, and I can't think of an instance of school shootings 25 years ago. Maybe we should figure out what's changed.
6556
No name

Antioch, TN

#36 Dec 17, 2012
Maybe the world has changed, morals have change, political correctness has changed. It's harder today to tell someone they or their children have real mental issues than 50 years ago. All of us have become more and more immunion to violence, sex, drugs, alcohol, and all other "evils". Over time, it all becomes main stream, sadly.
Proccw

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#37 Dec 18, 2012
No name wrote:
Maybe the world has changed, morals have change, political correctness has changed. It's harder today to tell someone they or their children have real mental issues than 50 years ago. All of us have become more and more immunion to violence, sex, drugs, alcohol, and all other "evils". Over time, it all becomes main stream, sadly.
Yes, yes, yes and YES!
to drobins5

Warrenton, MO

#38 Dec 20, 2012
If you make guns illigal, the only ones having access to guns would be the people who got the guns illigally. If the Principal or staff person in Conn. had a gun and were trained on using a gun, the gunman would have still accessed that area but would have been stopped in his tracks and this, my friend, would have prevented a lot of deaths.
for real

Columbia, MO

#39 Dec 20, 2012
The concealed carry law which currently prohibits carrying a weapon into a school, church, or government building, should be changed. Where do you think these psycho shooters go to when they want to commit slaughter, murder, and suicide....to the schools, churches, and government buildings. Any why.....because they know that no one in those places can be armed to defend themselves and no one there will pose a threat or try to confront them. The are attacking the defenseless. Concealed carry permits should allow the holder to carry a gun anywhere at anytime and to be able to defend themselves everywhere they go.
hmmm

Saint Louis, MO

#40 Dec 29, 2012
might as well take away the right to free speech too

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