Gun Control Debate - Metropolis, IL

Discuss the national Gun Control debate in Metropolis, IL.

Would you support a ban on handguns?

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History gives the answer

Greenville, SC

#42 Aug 25, 2012
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."
– Adolf Hitler

The "Left" will save us for Slow death.....keep your guns or give up you liberty!!!!!!
Law

Papillion, NE

#43 Aug 25, 2012
History gives the answer wrote:
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future."
– Adolf Hitler
The "Left" will save us for Slow death.....keep your guns or give up you liberty!!!!!!
That's a bogus quote. hitler didn't say that.
gARY r mANLEY

Herrin, IL

#44 Aug 27, 2012
i AN A HUNITER. IF SOMEOME BRAKES INTO MY HOME THAY WILL NEED TO BE CARRIED OUT.
Informed

Metropolis, IL

#45 Aug 28, 2012
Law wrote:
<quoted text>That's a bogus quote. hitler didn't say that.
try this one

The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms; history shows that all conquerers who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall."~~Adolf Hitler, From Edict of March 18, 1938
The above is found on page 149 of The Second Amendment Primer Copyright 1996 by Les Adams. Published by Odysseus Editions, Birmingham Alabama.
Informed

Metropolis, IL

#46 Aug 28, 2012
OK want some real info from people that know?

“Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power.”
-Yoshimi Ishikawa, Japanese author, in the Los Angeles Times, 1992-Oct-15, commenting on the response of the Japanese public to government
corruption

“Criminals don't register their guns.”
-Murray Grismer, spokesman of the Saskatchewan Federation of Police Officers, and a 13-year veteran of the police force in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

“This proposal will never prevent criminals from possessing firearms and we never said it would.”
-Daryl Smeaton, Attorney General's department, Director of Law Enforcement Co-ordination, on the new Australian gun bans, in The Weekend Australian, 20-21 September 1997, page 6

“This business about gun control is a joke really. I come from Switzerland where everyone is taught how to treat weapons sensibly and with care. In Switzerland everyone keeps a gun in their own home and we don't have any problems with them.”
-Mrs Emma Jay, 70, Northern New South Wales, Australia, Friend of Port Arthur mass shooting victim Jim Pollard, as reported in The Age 19/7/96 page A7

“Gun control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I'm a bad guy, I'm always gonna have a gun. Safety locks? You will pull the trigger with a lock on, and I'll pull the trigger. We'll see who wins.”
-Mafia informant Sammy "the Bull" Gravano, on gun control, in an interview by Howard Blum that appears in the September 1999 issue of Vanity Fair magazine

“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA -- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.”
-Heinrich Himmler

“The communist party must control the guns.”
-Mao Tse Dung

“The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their possession any swords, bows, spears, firearms or other types of arms. The possession of these elements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues, and tends to permit uprising.”
-Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Shogun of Japan, August 29, 1558.

“For the bureaucrat, the world is a mere object to be manipulated by him.”
-Karl Marx

“The bureaucracy is a circle from which one cannot escape. Its hierarchy is a hierarchy of knowledge. The top entrusts the understanding of detail to the lower levels, whilst the lower levels credit the top with understanding of the general, and so all are mutually deceived.”
-Karl Marx
Law

Papillion, NE

#47 Aug 31, 2012
Informed wrote:
<quoted text>
try this one
The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms; history shows that all conquerers who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall."~~Adolf Hitler, From Edict of March 18, 1938
The above is found on page 149 of The Second Amendment Primer Copyright 1996 by Les Adams. Published by Odysseus Editions, Birmingham Alabama.
The quote is actually from 1942. MArch 18, 1938 was when the Nazi Weapons Law was published.
Hitler actually expnded the ownership of guns (except for the Jews of course) from the original Law on Firearms and Ammunition of 1928.
Tim

Herrin, IL

#48 Sep 2, 2012
Just remember this. A police officer don't carry a gun to protect you. They carry a gun to protect themselves, ONLY! If a criminal was holding a gun on you, a cop is not going to shoot them. But let the criminal turn that gun toward them, then they will shoot the criminal. What makes their life more important than mine? Arm the citizen. We'll make the determination if our lives are in grave danger and take appropriate action to stop it. We aren't stupid [like they would like you to think]. Some citizens have better judgement than some of the officers. It's all about FREEDOM!!!!
Law

Papillion, NE

#49 Sep 2, 2012
Tim wrote:
Just remember this. A police officer don't carry a gun to protect you. They carry a gun to protect themselves, ONLY! If a criminal was holding a gun on you, a cop is not going to shoot them. But let the criminal turn that gun toward them, then they will shoot the criminal. What makes their life more important than mine? Arm the citizen. We'll make the determination if our lives are in grave danger and take appropriate action to stop it. We aren't stupid [like they would like you to think]. Some citizens have better judgement than some of the officers. It's all about FREEDOM!!!!
Indeed!!
massacdude

Metropolis, IL

#50 Nov 2, 2012
you crazy?
Tim

Herrin, IL

#51 Nov 3, 2012
massacdude wrote:
you crazy?
You naive? Don't bet your life on it.
c pilot

Herrin, IL

#52 Nov 3, 2012
Law wrote:
<quoted text>That's a bogus quote. hitler didn't say that.
Hilter did say that in a 1935 speech!!!!
Law

Papillion, NE

#53 Nov 3, 2012
c pilot wrote:
<quoted text>
Hilter did say that in a 1935 speech!!!!
No he didn't !!!
obuma

Herrin, IL

#54 Nov 4, 2012
Hitler may not have said what you are talking about but if you vote for Obuma for president you will see a nationwide battle to take every gun you have. When he does take your guns, we will have no choice but to follow the rules of the wicked. Remember, Obuma was a ONE term senator when he was elected president. His agenda pretty much follows what the state of Illinois is doing to the honest gun toting citizen. Illinois is the only state without a conceal carry law. Thomas Jefferson would roll over in his grave if he knew how adamant Obuma was about trying to take our guns. The 2nd amendment was written so that the 1st amendment was being followed and it's the first right given to the citizens in the Constitution. Must be somewhat important to keep everybody in line. EVERYBODY! Jefferson knew this.
Dowhatsright

Herrin, IL

#55 Nov 5, 2012
Gun laws in America are really screwed-up. Let a MS-13 gang member shoot and rob someone for $20.00 and he MIGHT get 10-15 years so they can join their buddies in the joint but let an honest citizen shoot someone breaking into their house and it's just about as bad. This is all brought on by the ultra conservatives (but mostly women) that are against you fighting for what took you a lifetime to get. These are the same people that love rib-eye steaks but wouldn't even consider killing a cow to get it. They love pork chops but wouldn't think about killing one of those cute little oinkers. America was structured on the faith of God and God said 'eye for an eye'. Start executing some of these lowlife murdering gang members and the rest of them may get the idea that people are sick of that shit. This is whats wrong in Illinois now. Rahm Immanuel and Gov. Quinn can't control the gangs running Chicago ( I think it's because they're scared of them), so they thinks they can punish the whole State of Illinois by putting a ban on firearms. Bullshit! In April we need to show Quinn the door. And a few more politicians also.
Law

Papillion, NE

#56 Nov 5, 2012
Dowhatsright wrote:
Gun laws in America are really screwed-up. Let a MS-13 gang member shoot and rob someone for $20.00 and he MIGHT get 10-15 years so they can join their buddies in the joint but let an honest citizen shoot someone breaking into their house and it's just about as bad. This is all brought on by the ultra conservatives (but mostly women) that are against you fighting for what took you a lifetime to get.
BS. Conservatives are not pro gun control. They're about being able to protect yourself by exercising your 2nd Amendmwent right.
Dowhatsright wrote:
These are the same people that love rib-eye steaks but wouldn't even consider killing a cow to get it. They love pork chops but wouldn't think about killing one of those cute little oinkers.
Why would they even consider it? Those animals are raised to provide food.
Dowhatsright wrote:
America was structured on the faith of God and God said 'eye for an eye'. Start executing some of these lowlife murdering gang members and the rest of them may get the idea that people are sick of that shit. This is whats wrong in Illinois now. Rahm Immanuel and Gov. Quinn can't control the gangs running Chicago ( I think it's because they're scared of them), so they thinks they can punish the whole State of Illinois by putting a ban on firearms. Bullshit! In April we need to show Quinn the door. And a few more politicians also.
So you have the right idea about the guns but ascribe the blame on the wrong people. That's not bad....you're batting .500
Dowhatsright

Herrin, IL

#57 Nov 6, 2012
Law wrote:
<quoted text>
BS. Conservatives are not pro gun control. They're about being able to protect yourself by exercising your 2nd Amendmwent right.
<quoted text>
Why would they even consider it? Those animals are raised to provide food.
<quoted text>So you have the right idea about the guns but ascribe the blame on the wrong people. That's not bad....you're batting .500
You are also batting .500. I know that liberals are suppose to be pro gun. But Obama is suppose to be a liberal and he is as anti gun as anyone can be. Doesn't that make him a conservative? It's all about freedom and Obummer has turned out to be 'big business' instead of following party lines. Obama has lied since 2008 (and before) about his true agenda for freedom of the American people. It scares me to think what will happen if Obama is re-elected as our president. It could be the end of the United States as we know it.... Secondly- People have life too good in America (or some people anyway). While the privileged reaps the benefits of Obama's agenda there are a lot of people that will suffer under his leadership. As far as the cow and pig issue, I think men are failing to take charge in the home. Just read the Christian Bible and it says that woman was created from man and, from this, my understanding is women can share decisions made in the home but man is the one that is suppose to wear the pants. Men are becoming sub-serviant in American society. Example: look at Ann Colter, she's way too outspoken and there are more women just like her. It just causes a lot of stife in the home. I'm not a misogynist, I just think that someone has to lead and someone has to follow. Much like the wealthy are doing to the poor. How many women do you know that will take a gun and shoot a cow between the eyes? Even if she was starving to death! Men are becoming sissies and women are growing balls.
Colby

Overland Park, KS

#58 Nov 15, 2012
JUST AMERICAN wrote:
let the voters of Il decide if they want any form of gun control. Also let us decide if we want Chicago and E. St. Louis part of the state.
I am glad that someone else thinks that too
Dillon

Marion, IL

#59 Nov 16, 2012
If you are too scared to carry a gun then you probably shouldn't carry a gun. But if you are a true Jeffersonian patriot then you know this is your constitutional right and Obama or anybody else should not be allowed to tell you any different. And especially the U.N. What right does the U.N. have to change OUR constitution?
zipp

Menomonie, WI

#60 Nov 16, 2012
Something that has continued to strike me funny, Has anyone heard specific criticisms on types of guns that are "bad". For instance, the .50 caliber rifle. Some politicians point to the idea that you can take down an airplane with one, and why would anyone need such a thing when game animals don't have body armor, etc. First has anyone ever tried to take down an airplane with a single projectile or rifle shot? Lol. Not too likely even with the inclination. The cost of some of these rigs is prohibitive to most people even with good jobs. They are heavy and large and not likely to be concealed in any way. Why do you have to use such a thing for sport hunting of game? Haven't they heard of competitive long-range shooting? When some of these politicians talk about judging what is or is not necessary for law abiding gun owners, they often prove that they have no background knowledge, or true concept of firearms, competitive sports, or other issues surrounding these aspects. Based on their lack of knowledge, its easy to see why we should entrust them to make decisions on what type of guns we can have. Lol
zipp

Menomonie, WI

#61 Nov 16, 2012
Believe it or not, I now consider myself a Democrat.I am also an advocate for the 2nd amendment, a former scout/sniper, and a believer in the right to possess and keep arms. Although I don't agree with everything the NRA puts out there, I do think that we need to be proactive in educating the public, educating children in public or private schools about safety, and enforcing the strictest penalties for those who use a gun to commit crimes. We must step up efforts to identify those who are disqualified from having firearms and we should offer educational programming or training to the public on safety & awareness. Information is power. There are many other steps that can be taken as well. It isn't always the easiest issue to contend with, but there are steps that will improve the matter. The reality; nothing is perfect, but so goes having a free society.

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