Gun Control Debate - Bentonville, AR

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Paul England

Bentonville, AR

#1 Sep 28, 2010
Personal self-defense is a human right. Since the Police are not required to protect individual humans, nor are they able to protect all of us, we ought to be permitted to carry adequate weapons for self-defense. Handguns are one of several adequate weapons. A handgun is probably the best weapon for many persons.

Since: Mar 08

Pineville, LA

#2 Oct 2, 2010
It is a constitutional right to bear arms. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
R. Garrabrants

Glendale, AZ

#3 Oct 2, 2010
Citizens should be allowed to carry a concealed sidearm without a permit. Training in firearms use and the lawful use of force should be encouraged. Law enforcement officers will have help reducing violent crimeR
Bill Bob

Lake Geneva, WI

#4 Oct 3, 2010
Just don't let the BVPD have them.

Since: Mar 08

Pineville, LA

#5 Dec 14, 2010
Bill Bob wrote:
Just don't let the BVPD have them.
Don't judge the whole department based on one bad apple. I know the Chief and he is a dear friend. We have worked together for about 15 years. He, along with all of the other chiefs I know, do their very best to keep out the bad officers. Sometimes they slip through the cracks. When they are located they are gotten rid of. The Bella Vista PD is a very professional department. All it takes is one bad officer and everyone harshly and incorrectly judges the entire department. We have to endure dangerous and difficult working conditions and we are just trying to earn a living for our families.
Billy Bob

Rockford, IL

#6 Dec 15, 2010
CajunBilly wrote:
<quoted text>Don't judge the whole department based on one bad apple. I know the Chief and he is a dear friend. We have worked together for about 15 years. He, along with all of the other chiefs I know, do their very best to keep out the bad officers. Sometimes they slip through the cracks. When they are located they are gotten rid of. The Bella Vista PD is a very professional department. All it takes is one bad officer and everyone harshly and incorrectly judges the entire department. We have to endure dangerous and difficult working conditions and we are just trying to earn a living for our families.
oh ok then that's good...ummm this one "sliped through the cracks" and killed some one but its ok you get that now and again.(im being sarcastic).
Outraged

Van Buren, AR

#7 Dec 15, 2010
Cajun Billy: So much to disagree with.

"Don't judge the whole department based on one bad apple"
This is the same department that hires admitted cheats to serve (Scott Vanatta). Sort of negates the "one bad apple" argument. Nation wide there were over 19,000 law enforcement agents terminated for cause in 2008 (that is the latest year that the FBI has published statistics).

"I know the Chief and he is a dear friend. We have worked together for about 15 years. He, along with all of the other chiefs I know, do their very best to keep out the bad officers. Sometimes they slip through the cracks."
Farmer, outside his law enforcement job, is an honorable man. He has been a boy scout volunteer for over 20 years and has a good reputation within that organization. That does not mean he is a good administrator. I assert that most law enforcement supervisors diligently try to cover up most of the minor bad conduct to avoid embarrassment or criticism. When that bad conduct makes the news it is public outrage and political pressure, not some sense of duty, that forces those supervisors to take action. There is not enough room her to cite all examples but lets revisit the Larry Norman crime. While the ASP investigation found no wrong doing a Benton County Grand Jury was ready to drop the hammer on this murderer he copped a sweetheart plea deal with the prosecutor (does that sound familiar). I'm sure that others can provide many, many more examples.

"The Bella Vista PD is a very professional department."
I'm not sure what definition of "professional" you are referencing. Get a GED, live until your 21st birthday and have no felony convictions on your record and you are qualified to serve. Not quite the same qualifications that real professionals such as physicians, attorneys, architects, engineers or accountants are required to have.

"All it takes is one bad officer and everyone harshly and incorrectly judges the entire department."
I have already referenced the "one bad officer argument". The everyone you reference are the public you are sworn to protect and serve. They get to judge you and it is your job instill confidence in the public, that confidence is not freely given.

"We have to endure dangerous and difficult working conditions and we are just trying to earn a living for our families."
First no one forces you to do that job. Second (according to the US Bureau of Labor Stastics) there are 19 other career options, such as truck driver, miner, farmer and cab driver, that are more dangerous that law enforcement. I can't remember the last time I heard a farmer complain about how dangerous his job was or pat himself on the back for being a hero.

A little advise to law enforcement: Quit treating the general public like criminals and you might get a little of the respect that you seek.
Outraged

Van Buren, AR

#8 Dec 15, 2010
Your hard working Arkansas State Police at work:

LITTLE ROCK — The Arkansas State Police has suspended and reassigned a trooper who arrested a news photographer at a December house fire.

Trooper Tom Weindruch, 33, was suspended for two days without pay and was transferred from the Highway Patrol Division to the Administrative Services Division in Little Rock, state police spokesman Bill Sadler said. Weindruch had been part of the patrol division in Little Rock-based Troop A.

Stephens Media Group photographer Bill Lawson, 59, was arrested by Weindruch at the scene of a Dec. 10 house fire in Maumelle. Lawson was handcuffed, then released at the scene with a citation for obstructing government operations. Prosecutors quickly dropped the charge.

Lawson filed a complaint against Weindruch, saying the trooper was abusive while Lawson was under arrest.

Sadler said Wednesday that Weindruch did not appeal the disciplinary action, which also prevents Weindruch from being eligible for a promotion or to receive special assignments for one year. Stephens Media Group first reported Weindruch’s suspension.

In his arrest report, Weindruch wrote that Lawson took flash pictures of him, temporarily impairing his vision, after Weindruch told the photographer to return to his vehicle. Weindruch placed Lawson in handcuffs.

A three-person review board investigated Lawson’s complaint and reported to state police Director Col. Winford Phillips in January that the complaint was unsubstantiated.

But the panel also said that Weindruch showed poor judgment in responding to the fire when no one requested his assistance; failing to advise state police dispatchers of his location; engaging in unnecessary verbal exchanges with Lawson; arresting Lawson; and failing to notify his supervisor of the incident.

Phillips chose to discipline Weindruch, telling him in a March 10 letter that the incident “has adversely affected the reputation of the Arkansas State Police for professionalism.”

This clown should have been fired.
missmuffet

Warren, AR

#9 Dec 28, 2010
CajunBilly wrote:
<quoted text>Don't judge the whole department based on one bad apple. I know the Chief and he is a dear friend. We have worked together for about 15 years. He, along with all of the other chiefs I know, do their very best to keep out the bad officers. Sometimes they slip through the cracks. When they are located they are gotten rid of. The Bella Vista PD is a very professional department. All it takes is one bad officer and everyone harshly and incorrectly judges the entire department. We have to endure dangerous and difficult working conditions and we are just trying to earn a living for our families.
Most police depts. in AR(including Sheriff Dept) are corrupt. What makes BVPD any different?

Since: Mar 08

Pineville, LA

#10 Jan 9, 2011
missmuffet wrote:
<quoted text>
Most police depts. in AR(including Sheriff Dept) are corrupt. What makes BVPD any different?
Just flapping your lips doesn't make your statement true. It shows your lack of intelligence to make a statement like that. Next time why don't you try and add some facts and figures to back up such a ludicrous statement.
Sarah E Smith

Bentonville, AR

#11 Jan 10, 2011
Free country? Let the criminals have the guns?????
Outraged

Van Buren, AR

#12 Jan 11, 2011
missmuffet wrote:
<quoted text>
Most police depts. in AR(including Sheriff Dept) are corrupt. What makes BVPD any different?
I have to disagree. Very few departments are systemically corrupt (from the police chief to the janitor). All departments have corrupt members and the corrupt members are allowed to remain in uniform because the rank and file of honest officers is either too afraid or too apathetic to do anything about it.
Dorothy

Pineville, MO

#13 Apr 6, 2011
It's called freedom and protection.
David Wilminko

Ozark, AR

#14 Aug 20, 2012
The statistics show that by not infringing on our second amendment rights, law BREAKERS are less likely to enter a place of business and try to do harm. Where do criminals commit their crimes with guns? Think about this, places like schools, political rallies, colleges, establishments that post signs telling LEGAL and TRAINED people that they must un-protect themselves...like movie theaters. The common theme here is where-ever guns are not allowed. We care as much about your well being as well as ours. We in good consciousness could not allow harm to happen to our neighbors. Please spread education, not fear.
Steve

Springdale, AR

#15 Aug 21, 2012
The Second Ammendment. Every Man has the right to protect himself and his family. The Gun, isn't the problem...Plain and simple. It is pretty plain to see a criminal doesn't care about any gun law. Why even as this question?
Ann Smith

Bentonville, AR

#16 Aug 22, 2012
We have a right to BEAR ARMS. Anyone remember that?????

Since: Aug 12

Fort Smith, AR

#17 Aug 27, 2012
I believe everyone has the right to protect themselves.

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